*** MARVEL CINEMATIC UNIVERSE *** [Staff message on OP]

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The Army has already pulled the ad campaign, a number of credible stories have come to light that paint Majors as an assh*ole at best, and this whole thing is currently doing irreparable damage to his career. If proven innocent will he eventually bounce back? Sure. But the court of public opinion absolutely matters, and the longer we go without that proof, the more this weekend's narrative becomes the truth, no matter what the truth ends up being.
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Good to know. I appreciate the insight.
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TCTTS said:

The Army has already pulled the ad campaign, a number of credible stories have come to light that paint Majors as an assh*ole at best, and this whole thing is currently doing irreparable damage to his career. If proven innocent will he eventually bounce back? Sure. But the court of public opinion absolutely matters, and the longer we go without that proof, the more this weekend's narrative becomes the truth, no matter what the truth ends up being.


I mean, isn't Hollywood full of *******s? If he didn't break the law, I don't really care what he is like on set. I don't need him to be a nice guy to enjoy his work
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I think the military is extra sensitive about stories of assault lately. The army doesn't want to give anyone the daylight to write the story, "The army, which struggled with a history of neglecting reports of male assault on female soldiers and officers, now has a man accused of assault in its ad campaign."

So they pull the campaign asap before that can become a story.
Thanks and gig'em
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Quad Dog said:

Not a lawyer, but I'm pretty sure you can't just release video evidence to the public. It could influence potential jurors.
Of course you can do this. We see evidence released publically all the damn time.

If Majors had footage that showed he was innocent it would be out.
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AggieLitigator said:

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https://variety.com/2023/film/news/jonathan-major-alleged-assault-evidence-1235564860/

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"Jonathan Majors is completely innocent and is provably the victim of an altercation with a woman he knows," says criminal defense lawyer Priya Chaudhry. "We are quickly gathering and presenting evidence to the District Attorney with the expectation that all charges will be dropped imminently."

Chaudhry goes on to say there is video footage from the vehicle where the alleged incident took place, witness testimony from the driver and onlookers and two written statements from the woman recanting the allegations.

"All the evidence proves that Mr. Majors is entirely innocent and did not assault her whatsoever," she said. "Unfortunately, this incident came about because this woman was having an emotional crisis, for which she was taken to a hospital yesterday. The NYPD is required to make an arrest in these situations, and this is the only reason Mr. Majors was arrested. We expect these charges to be dropped soon."




Then let's SEE that evidence. Why are you (the lawyer) just telling us about it? Every hour that this story is allowed to build and fester online, the worse it gets for Majors in the court of public opinion. Especially when I continue to see story after story posted, from people who either allegedly worked with him or have heard stories from colleagues, essentially/increasingly saying, "Yeah, he's always been a piece of sh*t." The director who posted a rant about Majors in February, but didn't use his name, who then confirmed last night that he was, indeed, talking about Majors, is especially convincing/damaging. But if there really are two letters from the woman recanting her story (why there would be two, I'm not sure), AND video evidence, then release it all ASAP. If anything, TMZ should be all over that kind of stuff.


The criminal defense attorneys job is to defend against the charges. You don't want to discredit the alleged victim in the media if you have hopes of her recanting her story or asking the State not to prosecute you. Any information disclosed later will be because it's in the best interest of the case to pressure the prosecutor to dismiss. If there's even a reason to release any evidence. There's more to it than this, but this is the quickest way to explain. In other words, it depends…I always start a case preparing as though it's going to trial.
If they're looking to have the accuser recant then they don't have video that shows he's innocent.
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MBAR said:

Quad Dog said:

Not a lawyer, but I'm pretty sure you can't just release video evidence to the public. It could influence potential jurors.
Of course you can do this. We see evidence released publically all the damn time.

If Majors had footage that showed he was innocent it would be out.
That's too simplistic a view. Because if it shows he didn't hit her, but he is in her face screaming her down, he looks like a dick and a rageoholic. The goal of his lawyer is to address only the charge against him and disprove it to the DA.

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The Porkchop Express said:

MBAR said:

Quad Dog said:

Not a lawyer, but I'm pretty sure you can't just release video evidence to the public. It could influence potential jurors.
Of course you can do this. We see evidence released publically all the damn time.

If Majors had footage that showed he was innocent it would be out.
That's too simplistic a view. Because if it shows he didn't hit her, but he is in her face screaming her down, he looks like a dick and a rageoholic. The goal of his lawyer is to address only the charge against him and disprove it to the DA.


I mean that is fair to an extent, but I'm not really sure it changes my point. I have zero doubts his lawyers are doing what they know to be best to beat the charges or get rid of them all together, but I also don't think what is on that video is ever going to be something that makes us think of Majors the way we did prior to this weekend. If that video that did that existed, it would be out.
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TCTTS said:

The Army has already pulled the ad campaign, a number of credible stories have come to light that paint Majors as an assh*ole at best, and this whole thing is currently doing irreparable damage to his career. If proven innocent will he eventually bounce back? Sure. But the court of public opinion absolutely matters, and the longer we go without that proof, the more this weekend's narrative becomes the truth, no matter what the truth ends up being.


This. And at the very least, nobody's gonna want to hire a guy who might possibly be seen as a negative presence on set, convicted or not. He's not really on the level where he'd be hired in spite of that. He might've been on his way to it, but hasn't quite made it.

IMO
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Its the strangulation **** that gets me.
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Claude! said:

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TexasAggie_02 said:

Strangely enough, on r/marvelstudios last night, the vast majority were like "good riddance. " many even hoping that secret wars could now be done with Dr Doom instead of kang.
Dr. Doom is a bad-ass villain, but if you're going the traditional route you're asking the bad guy to wear a mask for 2+ movies that never shows his face, or keep on coming up with convenient ways for him not to wear it that makes Doom not Doom. So do you go with a Grade A actor who never his face shown? Even Brolin was fairly recognizable in the Thanos CGI, and the voice as all him. Doom's voice would be significantly altered by the mask, I'm assuming.


Perhaps Pedro Pascal could give it a go.


This is the way.
I'm secretly hoping they say "screw it" and replace Kang with Deadpool and we get to explore the weird multiverse versions of Deadpool....directed by Taika Waititi...or James Gunn.
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A Taika Deadpool would be amazing
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Don't give Waititi the keys to the kingdom. The way he ruined his Thor he built was baaaaaaad.

I don't think Reynolds needs or wants some like that.
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Dude has had a flawless career and suddenly he is kryponite after one film

Whatever
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I really don't see how she's going to recant this (or already did, or whatever the hell his attorney is saying)…

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I'm sorry, but it's now Monday evening on the east coast and if his attorney had the goods/"proof" we'd have seen *something* by now.
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TCTTS said:

I really don't see how she's going to recant this (or already did, or whatever the hell his attorney is saying)…


Yeah I'm really confused because they seem to be saying she's changed her story but they already arraigned him on charges so?
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I'm always wary of people who *talk about* having evidence instead of simply presenting the evidence - hell, even leaking it, in this case - and letting the evidence talk for them.
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Weird how Captain America 4 has everything from the Incredible Hulk and nothing from Falcon & Winter Soldier so far besides Sam Wilson.
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Danny Ramirez and Carl Lumbly are both back, whose arcs were each introduced in The Falcon and Winter Solder. Not to mention Sebastian Stan, Emily VanCamp, and Julia Louis-Dreyfus are all returning as well. It's a direct sequel to The Falcon and the Winter Soldier, which will then lead directly into Thunderbolts just two months later, which will then see Wyatt Russell rejoining the cast as well. Think of The Falcon and Winter Solder through Thunderbolts as one long story consisting of six episodes and two movies, whose characters will overlap and be sprinkled throughout.
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Huh. I cannot, for the life of me, remember that Joaquin Torres character.
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Building on this, as I see it, there are four main "threads" of the MCU right now, each of which will converge into the next two Avengers movies...

Terrestrial:
The Falcon and the Winter Soldier > Captain America: New World Order > Thunderbolts

Extraterrestrial:
Captain Marvel > Ms. Marvel > Secret Invasion > The Marvels

Mystical:
WandaVision > Spider-Man: No Way Home > Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness

Interdimensional:
Loki > Ant-Man and Wasp: Quantumania > Loki: Season 2

Anything I'm forgetting? Other than the obvious titles to come, in Fantastic Four, Spider-Man 4, Blade, etc, and however they'll fall in line, while also obviously ignoring Eternals. I guess Hawkeye/She-Hulk/Daredevil could be considered another terrestrial thread, just more "street level," but I don't know how much of that, if any of it, will converge into the Avengers stuff. Then I'm assuming Namor will be the only remnant of the Black Panther thread, at least for a while, seeing as he's supposed to appear in some of the Avenger stuff as well. Then I guess Shang-Chi could be considered part of the "mystical" thread?
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redline248 said:

Huh. I cannot, for the life of me, remember that Joaquin Torres character.

He was basically Sam's sidekick/protege for like an episode or two. Same guy from Top Gun: Maverick. I think Sam gave him his old wings or something?
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Thor and any potential Guardians offshoots in Extraterrestrial?

Would definitely put Shang-Chi in mystical with the Wong and magical creature tie ins.
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I feel like Thor is probably on the back burner for a while, though I guess he'll likely appear in one of the Avengers movies? Then I guess I'm not counting Guardians since it's basically ending in May.
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MBAR said:

TCTTS said:

I really don't see how she's going to recant this (or already did, or whatever the hell his attorney is saying)…


Yeah I'm really confused because they seem to be saying she's changed her
story but they already arraigned him on charges so?


Once an original complaint is filed with police, they will go ahead and arrest the person. It does not matter what the original complaintant says after that. Now, if the original complainant does not agree to help the police going forward, then you will probably see the charges dropped.

For further example, see Beard, Chris (former sip basketball coach, now Ole Miss basketball coach)
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I forgot about Carl Lunby but hadn't heard about Emily Van Camp air Sebastian Stan. Neat! Still a little odd how Hulk-y this one is though. Maybe next they'll add Mark Ruffalo?
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Lots of Marvel news "leaking" on a real convenient day.
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Random thought, shouldn't the thread be retitled Marvel Cinematic Multiverse?
TCTTS
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Good point, and I'm all for it. While staff's at it, they can get rid of that "staff message" note in the title, since it's from a fight we all got into like three or four years ago.
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What in the world? Half-finished effects and a literal greenscreen?

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