*** MARVEL CINEMATIC UNIVERSE *** [Staff message on OP]

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Fat Bib Fortuna
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I can't get enough of Thor's face when Cap moves the hammer half a cm.
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My first choice would be Summer Glau
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Glau wouldn't work as Danvers.

Jennifer Walters on the other hand...
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Carol Danvers is introduced as a senior Major.

This means nothing for the movies. Age/looks through 2020 will be WAY more important to Marvel than staying true to some arbitrary ranking in the comics.


There's a noticeable age difference between a Captain during World War II, when officers would advance rather quickly due to simply surviving, and a Major in the modern Air Force.

A woman in her 20's playing a field grade officer won't be taken seriously.

Sam Jackson as a Colonel - believable
Adrian Pasdar as a Brigadeer General - believable
Don Cheadle as a Colonel - believable
Woman in her mid-30s as a Major - believable
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I just want to see her in a skimpy superhero costume. Besides, she's probably one of the few actresses that actually knows how to kick ass.
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Carol Danvers is introduced as a senior Major.

This means nothing for the movies. Age/looks through 2020 will be WAY more important to Marvel than staying true to some arbitrary ranking in the comics.


There's a noticeable age difference between a Captain during World War II, when officers would advance rather quickly due to simply surviving, and a Major in the modern Air Force.

A woman in her 20's playing a field grade officer won't be taken seriously.
As opposed to what, a norse god with a magical hammer? A man who can turn into a nearly invincible giant green monster? A man who invented the world's most powerful weaponized suit of armor in a cave?
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For some reason I feel Allison Brie could be a surprise success as Captain Marvel, just not sure how she'd look pulling off blonde.... Who am I kidding? I'm sure Annie's Boobs would still look great as a blonde.
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A man who invented the world's most powerful weaponized suit of armor in a cave?

Point of fact- he technically only created a crude prototype of the world's most powerful weaponized suit of armor while in the cave. That's way more believable.
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Carol Danvers is introduced as a senior Major.

This means nothing for the movies. Age/looks through 2020 will be WAY more important to Marvel than staying true to some arbitrary ranking in the comics.


There's a noticeable age difference between a Captain during World War II, when officers would advance rather quickly due to simply surviving, and a Major in the modern Air Force.

A woman in her 20's playing a field grade officer won't be taken seriously.
As opposed to what, a norse god with a magical hammer? A man who can turn into a nearly invincible giant green monster? A man who invented the world's most powerful weaponized suit of armor in a cave?


None of whom are being portrayed as officers in our current military.

Are you saying that an actor in his early 20s should be playing James Rhodes?
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She will be at least 30. They aren't going to cast Nicola Peltz or Cara Delevingne.
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Age/looks through 2020 will be WAY more important to Marvel than staying true to some arbitrary ranking in the comics


It's not arbitrary when, in every incarnation of the character, she's either Major Carol Danvers (USAF) or Captain Carol Danvers (USAF).

That would be like saying that War Machine holds an arbitrary rank, when the filmmakers went out of their way to ensure that he was a Lieutenant Colonel in the Air Force, because that's a critical part of who that character is.

There are only a handful of major Marvel characters who have their military rank as a defining characteristic:

SERGEANT James Barnes
CAPTAIN (later COMMANDER) Steve Rogers
LIEUTENANT COLONEL James Rhodes
LIEUTENANT GENERAL Thaddeus Ross
MAJOR Carol Danvers
COLONEL Nick Fury (General in the Ultimate comics)

The viewing audience is not stupid. They know that someone who has attained the rank of Major has been in the military at least 10 years. When they see someone wearing a gold leaf, they expect to see an "experienced" individual.

You can get away with a much younger actor or actress when portraying a Captain or a Lieutenant. You can NOT get away with that for a Major or Lieutenant Colonel, not if they're going to wear a U.S. Military uniform.
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We're saying they don't have to stick to her ranking in the comics. She doesn't have to be a captain/major/colonel/whatever. We have no idea how they're going to treat this iteration of the character. It could be her first day as an officer, for all we know. I hate to break it to you, but the general audience doesn't really care or pay attention to rankings and all that stuff in movies. I'm all for accuracy, but I have NO CLUE what Rhodes' ranking is in these movies.
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We're saying they don't have to stick to her ranking in the comics. She doesn't have to be a captain/major/colonel/whatever. We have no idea how they're going to treat this iteration of the character. It could be her day as an officer, for all we know. I hate to break it to you, but the general audience doesn't really care or pay attention to rankings and all that stuff in movies. I'm all for accuracy, but I have NO CLUE what Rhodes' ranking is in these movies.
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I couldn't even tell you what the difference is between a sergeant or major. I don't mean to come across as disrespectful at all, I'm just saying I think you're overestimating the general audience's knowledge of such things.
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She doesn't have to be a captain/major/colonel/whatever


All of her origin stories have her as an Air Force Major.

And seriously, you don't know what this:



Or this:


Means?
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Are we certain it will be Carol Danvers? Why couldn't Emily Van Camp become captain marvel?
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the Carol Danvers actress reveal has been in the pipe for 20 years

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And seriously, you don't know what this:

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or this:

[img]<a href=[/img]https://www.google.com/search?site=&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1680&bih=919&q=lieutenant+colonel&oq=lieutenant+colonel&gs_l=img.3..0l10.816.2942.0.3195.18.9.0.0.0.0.471.1181.0j1j2j0j1.4.0....0...1ac.1.57.img..14.4.1179.PU967xaoPBQ#safe=active&tbm=isch&q=+colonel+rank+usaf&facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=039WYTaCig84kM%253A%3BTVb3ZdJ1S-oirM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.vanguardmil.com%252Fimages%252Fmedium%252F0000007150610A_MED.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.vanguardmil.com%252Findex.php%253Fmain_page%253Dproduct_info%2526products_id%253D6176%3B250%3B250">

means?
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Sorry, that was just too easy.
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I will offer the opinion that, if they are going to build the Avengers 2.0 team around Danvers being one of the leaders, she'll need to be somewhat "older". And by older I mean around 30 and not early 20's.

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I will offer the opinion that, if they are going to build the Avengers 2.0 team around Danvers being one of the leaders, she'll need to be somewhat "older". And by older I mean around 30 and not early 20's.


Definitely in agreement with that.
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This is the exact kind of ridiculous and pointless argument over a casting decision we should be expecting for a Marvel role. This is gonna be an awesome 4 years.
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And personally I think they should cast Jared Leto as Carol Danvers
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This is the exact kind of ridiculous and pointless argument over a casting decision we should be expecting for a Marvel role. This is gonna be an awesome 4 years.
TCTTS
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And personally I think they should cast Jared Leto as Carol Danvers

That would actually be kind of brilliant.
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Are we certain it will be Carol Danvers? Why couldn't Emily Van Camp become captain marvel?
Feige flat out said it was Carol Danvers.
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NERD FIGHT!!!



TCTTS
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She doesn't have to be a captain/major/colonel/whatever


All of her origin stories have her as an Air Force Major.

And seriously, you don't know what this:



Or this:


Means?

To answer your question - maybe I'm in the minority, but no, I seriously could not tell you which of those means what. I'm assuming the eagle is a higher rank?
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Eagle (what Don Cheadle was wearing in the last Iron Man movie) = Colonel

Silver Leaf (what Terrence Howard was wearing in Iron Man 1) = Lieutenant Colonel

Gold Leaf (what Tim Guinee was wearing in Iron Man 1 and 2) = Major
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X-Phile 1: How come he gets to be Boba Fett?
William: Ok, fine, *you're* Boba Fett, and *you're* Grand Moff Tarkin.
X-Phile 2: I don't want to be Grand Moff Tarkin!
William: All right, fine, you know what? You're both KISS dolls!
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I prefer Strahovski but just for the sake of discussion, what about Jessica Biel? Mid 30s, established actress (though her star is waning a little bit), suitable body frame.
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If you see anyone younger than 30 wearing a gold leaf, you can almost guarantee it's an impostor. Same for anyone younger than 36 wearing a silver leaf or anyone younger than 42 wearing an eagle.
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I prefer Strahovski but just for the sake of discussion, what about Jessica Biel? Mid 30s, established actress (though her star is waning a little bit), suitable body frame.
RDJ wasn't exactly that sought after before Iron Man. That movie remade him.
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Biel is not a good actress and she's totally fallen off. Also I stood next to her once and she was shockingly short, although I guess that doesn't really matter.
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Here's a completely out of left field pick: Natasha Henstridge.
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