Black Widow has always had her gauntles in the comics, and has used the "Widow's Bite" a few times in the movies.

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There's some questions about how the Doctor Strange film is going to go, but having a cast that can't act definitely isn't going to be one of the issues.

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saw this vid the other day and was blown away. Look at how he gets into a role, even when wearing a ridiculous looking motion capture suit, no actors to play off of, and no set. Dr Strange is in good hands.

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For sure, I'm excited about what he can bring to the character. He was really great in The Imitation Game too.

Sidenote: While that footage is awesome, it's funny how little of that the actually use in the film. It's great reference for the animators but the amount of motion capture for characters like that that actually makes it into the film is pretty miniscule.

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There's some questions about how the Doctor Strange film is going to go, but having a cast that can't act definitely isn't going to be one of the issues.

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saw this vid the other day and was blown away. Look at how he gets into a role, even when wearing a ridiculous looking motion capture suit, no actors to play off of, and no set. Dr Strange is in good hands.

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For sure, I'm excited about what he can bring to the character. He was really great in The Imitation Game too.

Sidenote: While that footage is awesome, it's funny how little of that the actually use in the film. It's great reference for the animators but the amount of motion capture for characters like that that actually makes it into the film is pretty miniscule.

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Exactly, which is why, even though I love Andy Serkis, I was pretty disappointed when he minimized the role of animators and digital artists a year or two ago.

I feel like he we going to see Cumberbatch's face unlike Gollum or Caesar

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There's some questions about how the Doctor Strange film is going to go, but having a cast that can't act definitely isn't going to be one of the issues.

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saw this vid the other day and was blown away. Look at how he gets into a role, even when wearing a ridiculous looking motion capture suit, no actors to play off of, and no set. Dr Strange is in good hands.

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For sure, I'm excited about what he can bring to the character. He was really great in The Imitation Game too.

Sidenote: While that footage is awesome, it's funny how little of that the actually use in the film. It's great reference for the animators but the amount of motion capture for characters like that that actually makes it into the film is pretty miniscule.

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Exactly, which is why, even though I love Andy Serkis, I was pretty disappointed when he minimized the role of animators and digital artists a year or two ago.

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Oh, don't even get me started Serkis also now has his own mocap studio/VFX house, so he's got a vested instance in playing up the importance of his role as much as possible.

I've got a friend working at Weta, and the marketing talk is quite different from what actually happens.

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i know, i was just really impressed with how he got "into" the role, while doing footage that was probably going to get tossed. I mean, he's wearing tights with a GoPro mounted on his head.

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I'm having a hard time with Black Panther on Iron Man's side.

For one, Black Panther was always a really close fiend to Captain America, more than any of the other Avengers.

Two, in the Civil War comics, Black Panther and Storm had joined the Fantastic Four to replace Reed and Sue as they were off on a second honeymoon. And the FF joined up with Cap's side.

And third, Panther is typically anti-anything-regulatory/sanctimonious. He refused to join the Illuminati because he felt it was too self-righteous. He also has a general distrust of the US government.

I guess I'll need to see the context, and what exactly results in this schism.

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I don't know, I would think that since the Avengers messed up Wakanda in Age of Ultron, Black Panther would probably be all about holding those heroes involved responsible through whatever form registration takes in the MCU, and thus would side easily with Iron Man.

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I don't know, I would think that since the Avengers messed up Wakanda in Age of Ultron, Black Panther would probably be all about holding those heroes involved responsible through whatever form registration takes in the MCU, and thus would side easily with Iron Man.

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...by teaming up with the guy that was partly responsible for the destruction? I guess he could blame it on the hulk "if it weren't for me, he would have destroyed the whole city"

saw this on reddit:

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...by teaming up with the guy that was partly responsible for the destruction? I guess he could blame it on the hulk "if it weren't for me, he would have destroyed the whole city"

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If I understand things correctly, I think the underlying idea is that Iron Man felt bad (not that Cap doesn't) about what happened in Wakanda, and is going to propose some registration system in Civil War to keep it from happening again in the future. So while he did participate in its destruction, it's his response that is to crack down on what he views as the reason that destruction was allowed to happen that should draw Black Panther in.

The fight with Hulk in AoU doesn't necessarily occur in Wakanda. Ulysses Klaue stole Vibranium from Wakanda but that wasn't where his ship was docked. I don't believe they stated explicitly what city that was, but in the comics Wakanda is in the interior of Africa, not on the coast.

what is this about the Avengers messing up Wakanda?

nothing at all in AoU happened in Wakanda.

I thought it was a city in South Africa in the film?

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I'm having a hard time with Black Panther on Iron Man's side.

For one, Black Panther was always a really close fiend to Captain America, more than any of the other Avengers.

Two, in the Civil War comics, Black Panther and Storm had joined the Fantastic Four to replace Reed and Sue as they were off on a second honeymoon. And the FF joined up with Cap's side.

And third, Panther is typically anti-anything-regulatory/sanctimonious. He refused to join the Illuminati because he felt it was too self-righteous. He also has a general distrust of the US government.

I guess I'll need to see the context, and what exactly results in this schism.

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I don't know, I would think that since the Avengers messed up Wakanda in Age of Ultron, Black Panther would probably be all about holding those heroes involved responsible through whatever form registration takes in the MCU, and thus would side easily with Iron Man.

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That's a good point and I guess I should just wait and see. It's pretty obvious the dynamics are going to be quite different from the comics.

I bet we will see some perceived mop up event at the beginning of Civil War that will go south and cause the act.

Nothing happened to Wakanda in AOU. Sovokia was the city that was destroyed.

The Hulk vs Stark fight in AoU was in Johannesburg

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My bad, I only was able to see it once in theaters, and for some reason I was thinking it was actually in Wakanda.

They definitely did say the Vibranium came from Wakanda though right?

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They definitely did say the Vibranium came from Wakanda though right?

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just had a thought.

Mark Ruffalo was seen in Germany during filming of Civil War. no one knew if he was just there partying with the cast, or if he filmed any scenes.

now that i see how overpowered Tony's team is, i wonder if hulk and/or scarlet witch enter the fray late in the game to tip the scales in Cap's favor.

could also provide the catalyst for black widow to flip sides. maybe stark finds a way to finally imprison the hulk, or maybe vision could flat out destroy him, or they launch him into space and widow flips b/c of her attachment to Banner.

Planet Hulk......

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I think they throw a lot of new stuff at us. Take IronMans armor, I forget the name Blood something? We haven't seen or heard of it, but they plan on just throwing it at us in the movie.

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saw this vid the other day and was blown away. Look at how he gets into a role, even when wearing a ridiculous looking motion capture suit, no actors to play off of, and no set. Dr Strange is in good hands.

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For sure, I'm excited about what he can bring to the character. He was really great in The Imitation Game too.

Sidenote: While that footage is awesome, it's funny how little of that the actually use in the film. It's great reference for the animators but the amount of motion capture for characters like that that actually makes it into the film is pretty miniscule.

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Exactly, which is why, even though I love Andy Serkis, I was pretty disappointed when he minimized the role of animators and digital artists a year or two ago.

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Oh, don't even get me started Serkis also now has his own mocap studio/VFX house, so he's got a vested instance in playing up the importance of his role as much as possible.

I've got a friend working at Weta, and the marketing talk is quite different from what actually happens.

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I just visited Weta yesterday morning and they do some incredible things there. Plus I got to carry around one of the guns from District 9, so I might be a little biased.

Stolen from reddit. Leaked images from the Civil War footage shown at D23



More images in the reddit link.

from the gif - a note on Cap's side - when everyone's a superhero, but almost everyone on your side has to run places, and the other team has 3 guys who can fly, you're going to get a whupping.

Just based on his character's intrinsic morals it seems like Spiderman would have to be pro-Cap, although I'd love to see him switch sides after fighting Cap like he does in the comics.

If they really want to show some humor, they should have one scene interspersed where some Grade Q level Marvel superheroes are hanging out in a basement of someone's house or at the food court of the mall, writing down who's on what side so they can decide who to join based on either A) which side will likely win or B) which side has the hotter chicks.

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from the gif - a note on Cap's side - when everyone's a superhero, but almost everyone on your side has to run places, and the other team has 3 guys who can fly, you're going to get a whupping.

Just based on his character's intrinsic morals it seems like Spiderman would have to be pro-Cap, although I'd love to see him switch sides after fighting Cap like he does in the comics.

If they really want to show some humor, they should have one scene interspersed where some Grade Q level Marvel superheroes are hanging out in a basement of someone's house or at the food court of the mall, writing down who's on what side so they can decide who to join based on either A) which side will likely win or B) which side has the hotter chicks.

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That would be great

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from the gif - a note on Cap's side - when everyone's a superhero, but almost everyone on your side has to run places, and the other team has 3 guys who can fly, you're going to get a whupping.

Just based on his character's intrinsic morals it seems like Spiderman would have to be pro-Cap, although I'd love to see him switch sides after fighting Cap like he does in the comics.

If they really want to show some humor, they should have one scene interspersed where some Grade Q level Marvel superheroes are hanging out in a basement of someone's house or at the food court of the mall, writing down who's on what side so they can decide who to join based on either A) which side will likely win or B) which side has the hotter chicks.

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Something like Starlord spending the entire film doing a SWOT analysis on which team has the hotter girls

I'm old, I guess. SWOT=?

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I'm old, I guess. SWOT=?

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Strengths, Weaknesses, Opportunities, Threats

It's something many businesses do to determine where they are in the market place and what they can do to be better.

SWOT as explained by Jared