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Jeremy Renner sang about Hawkeye's powers. Pretty funny stuff
Holy crap that was funny
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I think IM3 is my least favorite.
quote:Some of the action sequences in IM2 are stellar, especially the racetrack scene.quote:
Dark World isn't the worst film.
It is to me. Lamest/most vanilla villain in the entire MCU. Honestly, though, I feel like IM2, Incredible Hulk, and T:TDW could all be switched out for worst MCU movie. Only reason I put IM2 above them was because there are big chunks of that movie I actually really like. I love that world. Asgard, on the other hand, bores me to death. And Incredible Hulk wasn't so much bad as it was bland.
I never understood the hate for IM2. What issues do people have with it?
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I never understood the hate for IM2. What issues do people have with it?
For me it's the entire stretch of him not doing iron man type things.
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I never understood the hate for IM2. What issues do people have with it?
For me it's the entire stretch of him not doing iron man type things.
Like this?
Well after that isn't there a long part where he's not doing anything in the suit?
The drunk party fight thing with Rhodes is so hard to watch. I just remember cringing in the theater.
The "daddy issues" Stark dealt with in IM2 were a total snooze. Also, the subplot about his arc reactor poisoning him, then finding the cure in blueprints for his dad's StarkFest (or whatever it was called) was terrible.
The final fight with Whiplash was pretty forgettable, too. None of the action sequences really stuck with me.
Edit: There's also just a huge dose of missed expectations. I was psyched for that movie when I saw it with my friends, after how good Iron Man was, and all of us left the theater incredibly disappointed. If it hadn't followed the original iron man, I might not remember it as such a disappointment, but I still wouldn't remember it as a good movie.
The final fight with Whiplash was pretty forgettable, too. None of the action sequences really stuck with me.
Edit: There's also just a huge dose of missed expectations. I was psyched for that movie when I saw it with my friends, after how good Iron Man was, and all of us left the theater incredibly disappointed. If it hadn't followed the original iron man, I might not remember it as such a disappointment, but I still wouldn't remember it as a good movie.
As opposed to him fighting an army of forgettable mutant fire people with his own army of forgettable RC suits?
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The "daddy issues" Stark dealt with in IM2 were a total snooze. Also, the subplot about his arc reactor poisoning him, then finding the cure in blueprints for his dad's StarkFest (or whatever it was called) was terrible.
The final fight with Whiplash was pretty forgettable, too. None of the action sequences really stuck with me.
This. The casting of John Slattery as his dad was brilliant, but that whole subplot was definitely handled poorly.
I'm not defending Iron Man 3, haha. Just explaining why I'd put IM2 at the bottom of the pile.
Fair enough. but I think IM3 gets a pass because folks have had more time to pick IM2 apart.
quote:No Guardians of the Galaxy?
1. Iron Man
2. The Avengers
3. Captain America: The Winter Soldier
4. Iron Man 3
5. Captain America: The First Avenger
6. Thor
7. Iron Man 2
8. The Incredible Hulk
9. Thor: The Dark World
Honestly the Avengers has in some ways ruined the subsequent standalone movies for me. Once you are part of the SuperBestFriends does it really make sense to be getting the **** kicked out of yourself fighting alone? Or saving the world alone? I get that's how it works in comic books. You have some cross overs the big valian is defeated and then everyone goes back to their own story. But it makes less sense in the "real" world. Thor gets a pass since he's on another planet, but the other guys?
Winter Solider solves this a bit by including a couple people (and it's an awesome movie) . Still though, about half way through I'm thinking:
A) you guys know someone who is 100% not Hydra
B) he can decrypt anything
C) you've already driven most of the way to his place
D) you just found out hydra killed his parents and
E) he's really good at flying and blowing things up
Winter Solider solves this a bit by including a couple people (and it's an awesome movie) . Still though, about half way through I'm thinking:
A) you guys know someone who is 100% not Hydra
B) he can decrypt anything
C) you've already driven most of the way to his place
D) you just found out hydra killed his parents and
E) he's really good at flying and blowing things up
quote:quote:No Guardians of the Galaxy?
1. Iron Man
2. The Avengers
3. Captain America: The Winter Soldier
4. Iron Man 3
5. Captain America: The First Avenger
6. Thor
7. Iron Man 2
8. The Incredible Hulk
9. Thor: The Dark World
Totally forgot! I'd probably put it either just above or just below IM3.
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Fair enough. but I think IM3 gets a pass because folks have had more time to pick IM2 apart.
I truly, unabashedly love IM3. Every single thing about it.
Thor 2 mostly took place off world. It makes sense that the other avengers couldn't reach England in time to help with the final battle (which lasted what, less than an hour tops?)
Captain America 2 took place in 2-3 days and the main characters were in hiding almost the whole time.
Not sure why nobody helped with the Mandarin. Maybe everyone else was looking for the guy in Afghanistan or something.
Captain America 2 took place in 2-3 days and the main characters were in hiding almost the whole time.
Not sure why nobody helped with the Mandarin. Maybe everyone else was looking for the guy in Afghanistan or something.
Even Pepper Potts turning into a super-powered ginger mutant?
Tony might have been recovering from surgery still during Winter Soldier.
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Fair enough. but I think IM3 gets a pass because folks have had more time to pick IM2 apart.
I truly, unabashedly love Shane Black. Every single thing about him.
quote:quote:Yes and no.
The Bana Hulk has nothing to do with the MCU.
They took the basic origin story from the Bana version, used their new actors and continued on. The flashbacks seen in the Norton version are basically re-created scenes from the Bana Hulk but with the new actors. Hell, William Hurt was even sporting a Sam Elliott mustache.
They're trusting that you've seen the Bana Hulk movie, so they can gloss over it and give a condensed version in a flashback.
They rely on viewers having background on the Hulk character, and there may even be some nods to the Bana version (him being in SA had more to do with the storyline of looking for a cure than nodding to the Bana version imo), but there is way more different than the same.
The intro to the Norton Hulk doesn't reference the Bana Hulk. Quite the opposite. Bana is blasted with radiation on accident. Norton does it on purpose. All of the intro stuff in the Norton version is nod to the TV show.
I think I would place the Daredevil series in the great category with Iron Man, Avengers, Cap 2 and GotG. Not sure about the other shows since I don't watch them.
quote:This.quote:quote:Yes and no.
The Bana Hulk has nothing to do with the MCU.
They took the basic origin story from the Bana version, used their new actors and continued on. The flashbacks seen in the Norton version are basically re-created scenes from the Bana Hulk but with the new actors. Hell, William Hurt was even sporting a Sam Elliott mustache.
They're trusting that you've seen the Bana Hulk movie, so they can gloss over it and give a condensed version in a flashback.
They rely on viewers having background on the Hulk character, and there may even be some nods to the Bana version (him being in SA had more to do with the storyline of looking for a cure than nodding to the Bana version imo), but there is way more different than the same.
The intro to the Norton Hulk doesn't reference the Bana Hulk. Quite the opposite. Bana is blasted with radiation on accident. Norton does it on purpose. All of the intro stuff in the Norton version is nod to the TV show.
I don't see any correlation between the Hulk and Incredible Hulk movies. It's just the world of Hulk. They expected viewers to have some knowledge of his world and back story from any of multiple sources - the comics, the TV show or the Bana movie; but it's not a direct correlation to the Bana film.
Bana's Hulk came out in 2003. MCU didn't get it's start until 2008 with Iron Man and then Incredible Hulk with Norton. I don't think the MCU had any intentions of connecting to the Ang Lee Hulk at all. Especially given the huge negative reaction the comic faithful had to that movie.
As for the change in actors, Norton could have been in these other MCU films if he wasn't so difficult to work with and try to demand writing credits on future Hulk films (Avengers, etc.).
quote:I'm the complete opposite. I love IM2 and think IM3 was quite a stretch in some parts of the story. Not to mention Tony spent quite a bit of film time out of the suit in IM3 (a complaint some seem to have about IM2). I just remember feeling a bit meh after leaving the theater when I saw IM3.quote:
Fair enough. but I think IM3 gets a pass because folks have had more time to pick IM2 apart.
I truly, unabashedly love IM3. Every single thing about it.
I'd say the worst part of IM2 was Mickey Rourke. Total miscast.
Sam Rockwell was great though.
Sam Rockwell was great though.
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Bana's Hulk came out in 2003. MCU didn't get it's start until 2008 with Iron Man and then Incredible Hulk with Norton. I don't think the MCU had any intentions of connecting to the Ang Lee Hulk at all. Especially given the huge negative reaction the comic faithful had to that movie.
Guys, we're not just making sh*t up. Yes, the MCU officially began in 2008, but Marvel is on the record as saying that Norton's Hulk was developed - VERY, VERY LOOSELY - with Bana's Hulk in mind. Otherwise they would have just started over with Norton's Hulk.
quote:Well, I guess I was wrong on this. Though this is a Wiki article of sorts, it does support the notion:quote:
Bana's Hulk came out in 2003. MCU didn't get it's start until 2008 with Iron Man and then Incredible Hulk with Norton. I don't think the MCU had any intentions of connecting to the Ang Lee Hulk at all. Especially given the huge negative reaction the comic faithful had to that movie.
Guys, we're not just making sh*t up. Yes, the MCU officially began in 2008, but Marvel is on the record as saying that Norton's Hulk was developed - VERY, VERY LOOSELY - with Bana's Hulk in mind. Otherwise they would have just started over with Norton's Hulk.
http://marvel-movies.wikia.com/wiki/The_Incredible_Hulk_%28film%29
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Connections to the 2003 Hulk movie
Although there were originally plans for a sequel to the 2003 Hulk movie featuring the Gray Hulk, the dark tone and poor performance of that film inspired Marvel Studios to decide that the next Hulk film needed to be done differently. As a result, screenwriter Zak Penn wrote three drafts of a story which would serve as a follow-up to the 2003 movie, but drawing more from the TV show and comic books. He described it as akin to Batman Begins, where the movie is not out-of-continuity with the others in the series, but neither is it a direct sequel. In his words:
"The first movie is not about Bruce Banner dealing with the repercussions of being the Hulk, it's much more about him becoming the Hulk. He gets taken to a base and put under observation pretty quickly. This movie is about Bruce Banner on the run and what life is like. There's stuff that I didn't want to deal with that was in the first movie. You're not going to see anything about his father or his experiments or anything, because to me, as a fan, that was the part that I found most frustrating... [url=http://marvel-movies.wikia.com/wiki/The_Incredible_Hulk_%28film%29#cite_note-0][/url]"
When Penn's commitments as director on The Grand required him to leave the project, Marvel Studios was still not satisfied with the screenplay. Part of their contract with Hulk actor Edward Norton stipulated that he would be paid to re-write it. He was hired only 3 months before filming was due to start, and had one month to produce the final screenplay. His changes were focused on further distancing it from the 2003 film and creating more of a "starting over" tone. [url=http://marvel-movies.wikia.com/wiki/The_Incredible_Hulk_%28film%29#cite_note-1][/url]
Other connections include:
- The story begins with Bruce living in South America, where the character was last seen at the end of Hulk.
- Lou Ferrigno appears as a security guard. He was also a security guard in Hulk.
quote:I do have to agree with you there. Mickey Rourke is the one thing I can't stand about the movie. Just watched it again recently and I'm sitting there thinking "there's no way this tatted up meat head is smart enough to do the kind of stuff Tony Stark does".
I'd say the worst part of IM2 was Mickey Rourke. Total miscast.
Sam Rockwell was great though.
quote:Him and that stupid bird stuff....bleh.quote:I do have to agree with you there. Mickey Rourke is the one thing I can't stand about the movie. Just watched it again recently and I'm sitting there thinking "there's no way this tatted up meat head is smart enough to do the kind of stuff Tony Stark does".
I'd say the worst part of IM2 was Mickey Rourke. Total miscast.
Sam Rockwell was great though.
quote:i thought the suits were too nerfed in IM3. In IM1, tony takes a tank round to the chest. By the third film, the suits are disposable and get ripped to pieces very quickly.quote:
Fair enough. but I think IM3 gets a pass because folks have had more time to pick IM2 apart.
I truly, unabashedly love IM3. Every single thing about it.
quote:this post could appear in a thread for almost every movie rockwell has been in
Sam Rockwell was great though.
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Sam Rockwell was orange though.
quote:quote:i thought the suits were too nerfed in IM3. In IM1, tony takes a tank round to the chest. By the third film, the suits are disposable and get ripped to pieces very quickly.quote:
Fair enough. but I think IM3 gets a pass because folks have had more time to pick IM2 apart.
I truly, unabashedly love IM3. Every single thing about it.
I've seen that explained as them all being prototypes, but generally I agree.
So, what mark number will ironman be up to at the start of Ultron?
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