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In reply to Brian Earl Spilner • 11:33a, 12/21/22
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Brian Earl Spilner said:
Ahsoka is going to set up the Avengers style team up of Mando, Ahsoka, Luke, etc.

Book it.


Please God no
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In reply to ABATTBQ11 • 12:29p, 12/21/22
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I mean we've already come pretty close to this to great fan reactions. Not sure why that would be a bridge too far.
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12:34p, 12/21/22
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I know Ahsoka isn't technically a Jedi, but there isn't really a reason she and Luke wouldn't be working together at least a little bit.
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In reply to The Porkchop Express • 1:14p, 12/21/22
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The Porkchop Express said:
Ahsoka
Release date: TBA, 2023

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Set after the fall of the Empire, Star Wars: Ahsoka follows the former Jedi knight Ahsoka Tano as she investigates an emerging threat to a vulnerable galaxy.
Fake news. She was not a Jedi Knight. Are we already retconning stuff or they don't know their own backstory?
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1:42p, 12/21/22
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Are you seriously calling it fake news?
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In reply to YouBet • 1:45p, 12/21/22
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YouBet said:
The Porkchop Express said:
Ahsoka
Release date: TBA, 2023

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Set after the fall of the Empire, Star Wars: Ahsoka follows the former Jedi knight Ahsoka Tano as she investigates an emerging threat to a vulnerable galaxy.
Fake news. She was not a Jedi Knight. Are we already retconning stuff or they don't know their own backstory?


Good job on the fact checking.
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In reply to YouBet • 1:56p, 12/21/22
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YouBet said:
The Porkchop Express said:
Ahsoka
Release date: TBA, 2023

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Set after the fall of the Empire, Star Wars: Ahsoka follows the former Jedi knight Ahsoka Tano as she investigates an emerging threat to a vulnerable galaxy.
Fake news. She was not a Jedi Knight. Are we already retconning stuff or they don't know their own backstory?


A Jedi Knight?! I'm out of it for a little while and everyone's having delusions of grandeur.
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2:20p, 12/21/22
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They also called Obi-Wan a Jedi Knight in the opening crawl of the Phantom Menace when was obviously a Padawan.
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2:21p, 12/21/22
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Younglings called Anakin "master" when everyone in the temple knew he wasn't granted that rank.

Come to think of it, no wonder he murdered them all.
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In reply to Brian Earl Spilner • 2:26p, 12/21/22
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Brian Earl Spilner said:
YouBet said:
The Porkchop Express said:
Ahsoka
Release date: TBA, 2023

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Set after the fall of the Empire, Star Wars: Ahsoka follows the former Jedi knight Ahsoka Tano as she investigates an emerging threat to a vulnerable galaxy.
Fake news. She was not a Jedi Knight. Are we already retconning stuff or they don't know their own backstory?


A Jedi Knight?! I'm out of it for a little while and everyone's having delusions of grandeur.
I used this line to death after getting my leg fixed several years ago, and switched it up with "he's more machine now than man..." when people got sick of it.
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In reply to redline248 • 2:26p, 12/21/22
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redline248 said:
Younglings called Anakin "master" when everyone in the temple knew he wasn't granted that rank.

Come to think of it, no wonder he murdered them all.
They probably assumed he was a master because of his position on the council.
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2:40p, 12/21/22
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You guys are cracking me up
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In reply to redline248 • 2:50p, 12/21/22
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redline248 said:
Younglings called Anakin "master" when everyone in the temple knew he wasn't granted that rank.

Come to think of it, no wonder he murdered them all.
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In reply to The Porkchop Express • 3:10p, 12/21/22
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The Porkchop Express said:
Are you seriously calling it fake news?
Yes. She was never officially a Jedi Knight.
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3:56p, 12/21/22
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There's an ocean of time after she leaves the order and before we see her again.

Kanan Jarrus got dubbed a knight by the spirit of the Grand Inquisitor. Who's to say something similar doesn't happen to Ahsoka?
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3:58p, 12/21/22
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Dave Filoni says she is effectively as strong, wise, and skilled as a true Jedi Master.
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In reply to YouBet • 4:01p, 12/21/22
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YouBet said:
The Porkchop Express said:
Are you seriously calling it fake news?
Yes. She was never officially a Jedi Knight.
Luke called himself a Jedi Knight in ROTJ and nobody knighted him either.
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In reply to The Porkchop Express • 4:22p, 12/21/22
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The Porkchop Express said:
YouBet said:
The Porkchop Express said:
Are you seriously calling it fake news?
Yes. She was never officially a Jedi Knight.
Luke called himself a Jedi Knight in ROTJ and nobody knighted him either.
Yeah, but she rejected the Order.
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In reply to BenTheGoodAg • 4:42p, 12/21/22
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BenTheGoodAg said:
The Porkchop Express said:
YouBet said:
The Porkchop Express said:
Are you seriously calling it fake news?
Yes. She was never officially a Jedi Knight.
Luke called himself a Jedi Knight in ROTJ and nobody knighted him either.
Yeah, but she rejected the Order.
And then the order was done, what a month later? Calling herself a Jedi Knight isnt exactly breaking the rules when there is no Jedi Order.
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In reply to The Porkchop Express • 4:54p, 12/21/22
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The Porkchop Express said:
BenTheGoodAg said:
The Porkchop Express said:
YouBet said:
The Porkchop Express said:
Are you seriously calling it fake news?
Yes. She was never officially a Jedi Knight.
Luke called himself a Jedi Knight in ROTJ and nobody knighted him either.
Yeah, but she rejected the Order.
And then the order was done, what a month later? Calling herself a Jedi Knight isnt exactly breaking the rules when there is no Jedi Order.
I guess I don't follow. She was allowed to come back, but rejected it. How does the Jedi order going away change her decision? And wasn't she still wielding white lightsabers in Mandalorian/BOBF, and also rejected the opportunity to train Grogu, etc? Am I mis-remembering something from Mando/BOBF?
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In reply to The Porkchop Express • 4:55p, 12/21/22
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The Porkchop Express said:
YouBet said:
The Porkchop Express said:
Are you seriously calling it fake news?
Yes. She was never officially a Jedi Knight.
Luke called himself a Jedi Knight in ROTJ and nobody knighted him either.
He was the only one left (as far as he knew). No one to dispute him.

Jedi Order still existed when Ashoka quit.
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5:14p, 12/21/22
Ahsoka was raised to Jedi Knight after she was proven innocent of murder (Clone Wars: "The Wrong Jedi"). The Council decided the ordeal was her "great trial" that proved she was worthy of being a knight.
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5:17p, 12/21/22
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Ahsoka is basically a Jedi in every way except by name...but it's technically incorrect to call her a former Jedi knight. She is a former member of the Jedi order, but left while still a padawan.


However, for the purposes of marketing a show geared to an audience bigger than nerds like us, it's probably gonna be ok to call her that.
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In reply to Grimey • 5:17p, 12/21/22
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Grimey said:
Ahsoka was raised to Jedi Knight after she was proven innocent of murder (Clone Wars: "The Wrong Jedi"). The Council decided the ordeal was her "great trial" that proved she was worthy of being a knight.
If that is the case, then forget everything I just posted.
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In reply to Grimey • 5:21p, 12/21/22
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Grimey said:
Ahsoka was raised to Jedi Knight after she was proven innocent of murder (Clone Wars: "The Wrong Jedi"). The Council decided the ordeal was her "great trial" that proved she was worthy of being a knight.
She declined it.
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6:46p, 12/21/22
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My point is that the order shouldn't decide whi is a knight. A jedi can determine what to call themselves.
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In reply to The Porkchop Express • 6:56p, 12/21/22
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7:40p, 12/21/22
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If Ashoka identifies as a Knight we have to respect that and affirm her.
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 7:42p, 12/21/22
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If Ashoka identifies as a Knight we have to respect that and affirm her.
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In reply to The Porkchop Express • 7:49p, 12/21/22
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The Porkchop Express said:
My point is that the order shouldn't decide whi is a knight. A jedi can determine what to call themselves.
Why shouldn't they? Genuinely curious. Do you think Anakin should get to tell people he's a master at the time of 3 even though the council didn't think he was at that level yet? I think he basically proved they were right.
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8:09p, 12/21/22
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In reply to The Porkchop Express • 8:20p, 12/21/22
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The Porkchop Express said:
My point is that the order shouldn't decide whi is a knight. A jedi can determine what to call themselves.
What!? And my point is that she determined not to call herself a Jedi
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In reply to redline248 • 10:59p, 12/21/22
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redline248 said:
The Porkchop Express said:
My point is that the order shouldn't decide whi is a knight. A jedi can determine what to call themselves.
Why shouldn't they? Genuinely curious. Do you think Anakin should get to tell people he's a master at the time of 3 even though the council didn't think he was at that level yet? I think he basically proved they were right.
My point is that when there is no longer an Order or a Council, a person like Ahsoka or Luke could call themselves what they wanted. Luke tells Jabba via hologram that he's a "Jedi Knight and friend of Captain Solo." Well Yoda didn't make him one and neither did Obi-wan, so it's just Luke adopting that title for himself.

Ahsoka was offered the Knighthood and turned it down, turned her back on the Jedi during the final season of Clone Wars and again at Padme's funeral, but when the inquisitor comes for her in Tales of the Jedi, she calls Bail Organa and says shes ready to get back to it, ushering in her involvement in Rebels. I'm sure she got introduced in certain circles as Jedi Knight at that point and it made sense.
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11:50p, 12/21/22
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OR, you nerds, Jedi Knight is the term they can use that's clearest in intent to the broadest audience, without having to split all these hairs.
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In reply to AliasMan02 • 12:55a, 12/22/22
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AliasMan02 said:
OR, you nerds, Jedi Knight is the term they can use that's clearest in intent to the broadest audience, without having to split all these hairs.
I already said that, earlier...but what the hell is the fun in that?
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