quote:quote:I always thought that sand conversation was put in just to explain why Vader didn't go down to Tattoine (?sp) to look for the droids himself in a New Hope.
You know, I never realized this, but it makes total sense that Anakin hates sand, which in turn makes him hate sand people.
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The acting is good there, but I hate the high ground bull**** and the look of the planet so much that I am overly distracted.
The score in the third act of ROTS is amazing. I wish the movie lived up to it.
quote:LOL.... "I have the high ground Anakin!" I don't know about that it might have been a decent movie. Most people I think would agree that ROTS was the best of the PT, not that is saying much really. ROTS could have, and probably should have been, a pretty dark movie except for the ray of sunshine that comes from the birth of the twins. Lucas obviously didn't want to go there, and it ended up being poorly handled.
Sith MIGHT have been a decent movie if lucas had been hamstrung by 1977 technology and forced to tell a story not try to dazzle people with ****ty green screen work.
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With AOTC on the mind, I am choosing this as the video for this week. This is probably the best acting in the prequels.
quote:You don't think murdering children and wiping out the Jedi is dark?
ROTS could have, and probably should have been, a pretty dark movie except for the ray of sunshine that comes from the birth of the twins.
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Perhaps Dooku sending out feelers to see if maybe he could recruit Obi Wan to be his apprentice? .
quote:I think he avoided showing most of the actions of one of the heroes of The Clone Wars that would paint Anakin in a really negative light. His betrayal should have been more of a focal point. I'm not saying that it wasn't dark, the purge itself was and hinting at the slaughter of the younglings was dark of itself. However, the birth of the Empire and its oppressive nature from those ashes along with Anakin's transformation to a Sith Lord felt rather lackluster. Hope should have felt like it was gone at some point until the twins' birth, and I never really got that feeling.quote:You don't think murdering children and wiping out the Jedi is dark?
ROTS could have, and probably should have been, a pretty dark movie except for the ray of sunshine that comes from the birth of the twins.
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Is he a poor actor, or was that poor acting intentional? Does he start off with a lie, really camp it up theatrically to make it obvious, so that Obi-Wan immediately starts off distrusting him?
"Oh no, my friend. This is a mistake, a terrible mistake. They have gone too far, this is madness!"
He's basically saying "See the way I play the concerned, outraged friend? Now you know I'm full of ****!"
" I will petition immediately to have you set free." Sure you will.
"There are no bounty hunters here that I'm aware of. The Geonosians don't trust them." I'm sure the Geonosians don't trust bounty hunters, (who can blame them?), but Dooku knows Jango is there. Lies mixed with truth.
Even when he brings up a very dear subject in Qui-Gon, he's still deceiving, even himself. Tyrannus thinks he's deceiving, but Dooku is telling the truth. He's "just" using the connection to Qui-Gon to manipulate Kenobi, but there's so much conflict. I'm sure Qui-Gon did speak highly of Kenobi. Truth. "I wish he were still alive. I could use his help right now." "Don't be so sure, my young Jedi. You forget that he was once my apprentice, just as you were once his." There's so much dissonance there. Tyrannus wants one thing, Dooku another. I'm sure Dooku does wish Qui-Gon was alive, I'm sure he misses him. Maybe Qui-Gon would help Dooku out of this Sith mess....or maybe he would join Tyrannus and the Sith.
Is Tyrannus trying to turn Kenobi, or is Dooku looking for redemption?
Then he goes on about the Senate and Sidious.
"He knew all about the corruptions of the Senate, but he would never have gone along with it if he had known the truth as I have." Dooku does know the truth, but actually is going along with it in a way, temporarily, at least.
"What if I told you that the Republic is now under the control of a Dark Lord of the Sith?" "The Dark Side of the Force has clouded their vision, my friend. Hundreds of senators are now under the influence of a Sith Lord called Darth Sidious." "The Viceroy of the Trade Federation was once in league with this Darth Sidious, but he was betrayed ten years ago by the Dark Lord. He came to me for help; he told me everything."
All truth, all intended to deceive. The idea of Gunray coming to Dooku is rather amusing, yet it's probably true, not that it matters.
The thing is, if you replace the references to Qui-Gon in the conversation with references to Palpatine/Sidious, it even starts to hint at why Dooku would join Palpatine/Sidious, if you twist it a little. Who knows about the corruption in the Senate better than Palpatine/Sidious? Who could deal with the problem of corruption better than him? While Qui-Gon was once Dooku's apprentice, just as Obi-Wan was once Qui-Gon's, Tyrannus is now Sidious' apprentice.
Who else was betrayed ten years ago by the Dark Lord? Dooku. Palpatine was partially responsible for Qui-Gon's death. Who really came to Dooku? Was it Gunray, or Palpatine? (Or both?) Did Palpatine tell Dooku everything? Or did Dooku come to Palpatine and tell him everything? A bit of both? Who knows?
And then he ends the conversation with a rather final, regretful, pathetic lie....with a hint of truth. "It may be difficult to secure your release". Of course, Dooku runs the show and can release Kenobi at any time. Or can he? Maybe he kinda wants to let Kenobi go...but is too weak, too cowardly, to actually do it.
Count Dooku, he tells the truth, even when he lies, and he lies, even when he tells the truth.
I love this scene! It doesn't matter what you believe, that this scene can be read so many different ways is what makes it great.
And Lee, Lee knocks it out of the park. Theatrical lies one moment, genuine sincerity the next, and at times both at the same time.
quote:Most of you likely know this, but, if you haven't, you should check out Christopher Lee's wikipedia. That guy led a badass life.quote:
With AOTC on the mind, I am choosing this as the video for this week. This is probably the best acting in the prequels.
I could never quite figure out what was going on in this scene My best guess is that he's sowing the seed of distrust between the Senate and the Jedi - but why tell him then have him executed? Perhaps Dooku sending out feelers to see if maybe he could recruit Obi Wan to be his apprentice?
One thing's for certain, Christopher Lee was criminally underused in the prequels.
quote:And nobody can explain it to you because libel.
I don't get it.
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Also this whole sequence where obi-wan goes to the water planet and sees all the clones looks like a freakin cartoon. WTF?
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Also this whole sequence where obi-wan goes to the water planet and sees all the clones looks like a freakin cartoon. WTF?
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(In case you are wondering the other 20% is reserved for non technology things such as "sand", "NOOOoooo", "yipee", etc.)
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I officially can't figure out how to post a picture from imgur on my phone anymore.
