Star Wars Discussion Thread

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Damn it Brian, I was hoping you'd come out swinging.
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Is anyone reading any of the new Star Wars comic books? Are they any good?
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Oh, I had no idea. Thanks for the heads-up.

I still like her take on fan frustrations. "Go make a new franchise if you want those things. Don't kick people out of their own house."
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A friend read Thrawn and said it was a pretty good read. Scoundrels is a newer Legends book and is good. It's an Ocean's 11-style heist with Han and Lando.

Edit: Oh wait you said comics; ha my bad. Still good books, though.
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solution: stop getting your star wars news from twitter and youtube; watch the movies and the shows read the books and the comics and decide if you like them.
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Dekker_Lentz said:

Is anyone reading any of the new Star Wars comic books? Are they any good?Is anyone reading any of the new Star Wars comic books? Are they any good?
I liked the main Star Wars title and the Darth Vader series. The first Vader series by Jason Aaron follows Vader trying to figure out who the Force-strong pilot was that blew up the first Death Star... well worth the read. The newer series by Charles Soule takes place right after Ep. III when he first became Vader.

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CJS4715 said:

Grace has 3/4 of a million subscribers, it is amazing to me. I watch her a lot and disagree with her on just about everything. When she is sourcing info, I imagine she is on theforce.net or reddit getting info and then twisting it into her argument. Like I said earlier, she has been after Kennedy for over a year. Kennedy may end up taking the fall, and many things could have been better, but this is the mess you get when the film timeline is based on Wall Street.


I don't think that is accurate. She gave a very positive review for the TLJ.
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The idea of Hamill and Johnson on the awards circuit together is amusing. The comments are predictable

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The Last Jedi is now on Netflix.

Meh.

Saiki K. has new episodes.

Sweet.
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This is causing quite the stir.
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These prequel apologists, I swear...
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He was supposed to be monotone, moody, and confused. He was supposed to be numb and callous. Everything someone who's depressed, held back, and emotionally beaten coming from a life of slavery should be. I can't see anyone else playing Anakin now.

Christensen did what Lucas wanted him to do perfectly. The problem is that what Lucas wanted Christensen to do wasn't good. Just because a person executes a bad idea, doesn't make the bad idea, good.

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Do people really think Hayden Christiansen was the worst? He perfectly played the dad of the kid who "was gonna go to Tosche Station to pick up some power converters"
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I just watched the first 10 min of TLJ on Netflix. My second viewing of movie. I turned it off. Ive never turned off a SW movie before.

The opening scene with Poe phone pranking him is just nauseating.

Tidbit I didn't notice on first viewing is that he is only one out there. Leia orders him to return so they can haul ass. He says no and switches off comms. A minute later the entire bombing wing appears out of nowhere and proceeds to WWII bomb the dreadnought in space against Leias wishes and against the laws of physics.
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YouBet said:

I just watched the first 10 min of TLJ on Netflix. My second viewing of movie. I turned it off. Ive never turned off a SW movie before.

The opening scene with Poe phone pranking him is just nauseating.

Tidbit I didn't notice on first viewing is that he is only one out there. Leia orders him to return so they can haul ass. He says no and switches off comms. A minute later the entire bombing wing appears out of nowhere and proceeds to WWII bomb the dreadnought in space against Leias wishes and against the laws of physics.
Poe's exchange is very Star Warsy and the opening 20 minutes of the movie is really great; its issues emerge later.

The bombers arrived via hyperspace, which is indicated (not said explicitly, but clearly implied), so shouldn't be a mystery.

The WWII vibe is the basis of ALL space combat in Star Wars.

It makes every bit of sense in regards to the physics. Why don't people understand how artificial gravity works in Star Wars, especially when in that scene you JUST witnessed someone FALLING between decks? How do you think Star Wars bombs would/should work?

There are a lot of things about TLJ to dislike, but I don't understand why suddenly the established tropes and physics are suddenly some sort of travesty.
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I enjoyed the movie when I saw it opening weekend. Afterward, the nonstop barrage of negativity had me second guessing myself. But I watched it on Netflix last night, and my initial impression was reaffirmed. It's a solid film.
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AliasMan02 said:

YouBet said:

I just watched the first 10 min of TLJ on Netflix. My second viewing of movie. I turned it off. Ive never turned off a SW movie before.

The opening scene with Poe phone pranking him is just nauseating.

Tidbit I didn't notice on first viewing is that he is only one out there. Leia orders him to return so they can haul ass. He says no and switches off comms. A minute later the entire bombing wing appears out of nowhere and proceeds to WWII bomb the dreadnought in space against Leias wishes and against the laws of physics.
Poe's exchange is very Star Warsy and the opening 20 minutes of the movie is really great; its issues emerge later.


I'll agree with you on the Star Wars physics stuff, but the opening "your mom/on hold" phone prank? C'mon, that was not Star Wars at all, and it was completely stupid and cringeworthy...literally...when I saw TLJ the first time, my thought at this exchange was, "Seriously? Uhhhhh, I hope the movie gets better than this fast."
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FL_Ag1998 said:

AliasMan02 said:

YouBet said:

I just watched the first 10 min of TLJ on Netflix. My second viewing of movie. I turned it off. Ive never turned off a SW movie before.

The opening scene with Poe phone pranking him is just nauseating.

Tidbit I didn't notice on first viewing is that he is only one out there. Leia orders him to return so they can haul ass. He says no and switches off comms. A minute later the entire bombing wing appears out of nowhere and proceeds to WWII bomb the dreadnought in space against Leias wishes and against the laws of physics.
Poe's exchange is very Star Warsy and the opening 20 minutes of the movie is really great; its issues emerge later.


I'll agree with you on the Star Wars physics stuff, but the opening "your mom/on hold" phone prank? C'mon, that was not Star Wars at all, and it was completely stupid and cringeworthy...literally...when I saw TLJ the first time, my thought at this exchange was, "Seriously? Uhhhhh, I hope the movie gets better than this fast."
That was honestly one of the things that bothered me most in the movie, and set a bad precedent for the rest of the movie. I still liked it, because its star wars and I love that ****, but i didnt love it
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I just got back from a two week vacation and hit the treadmill and noticed TLJ was on Netflix. So of course, I played it.kin

Honest to God, I have never railed against the politics of the new SW movies. But got dam, all the First Order officers are angry white males.

Second observation, whoever the F was Rose's sister should have had a starring role because she is smokin pilot Asian hotness, damn Son. And the A-wing white girl, same. Yeah.

Damn Disney, if you gonna PC this all up, get the right hotties in place. I've got the Jumangee cast on line juan.

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PatAg said:

FL_Ag1998 said:

AliasMan02 said:

YouBet said:

I just watched the first 10 min of TLJ on Netflix. My second viewing of movie. I turned it off. Ive never turned off a SW movie before.

The opening scene with Poe phone pranking him is just nauseating.

Tidbit I didn't notice on first viewing is that he is only one out there. Leia orders him to return so they can haul ass. He says no and switches off comms. A minute later the entire bombing wing appears out of nowhere and proceeds to WWII bomb the dreadnought in space against Leias wishes and against the laws of physics.
Poe's exchange is very Star Warsy and the opening 20 minutes of the movie is really great; its issues emerge later.


I'll agree with you on the Star Wars physics stuff, but the opening "your mom/on hold" phone prank? C'mon, that was not Star Wars at all, and it was completely stupid and cringeworthy...literally...when I saw TLJ the first time, my thought at this exchange was, "Seriously? Uhhhhh, I hope the movie gets better than this fast."
That was honestly one of the things that bothered me most in the movie, and set a bad precedent for the rest of the movie. I still liked it, because its star wars and I love that ****, but i didnt love it

Poe isn't Starlord.

The writing isn't as funny as they think it is. TFA did this too. Poe is captured by stormtroopers and he is kneeling before Kylo ren "....." "....." "who talks first? You talk first?"

There is minimal humor in ep4-6. Ep 1-3 tried it with jar jar and r2 doing oil slicks. Just stick to fantasy in space ffs.
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oh and lol, how is it possible for any ******* to make a star wars franchise movie and get a 46% score at rotten tomatoes? LOL.

i'll tell you how, make a movie worse than phantom menace (55%), finish off two of the most iconic characters in movie history in an insulting, asinine way, and fill it full of PC bull**** agendas....
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cbr said:

oh and lol, how is it possible for any ******* to make a star wars franchise movie and get a 46% score at rotten tomatoes? LOL.

i'll tell you how, make a movie worse than phantom menace (55%), finish off two of the most iconic characters in movie history in an insulting, asinine way, and fill it full of PC bull**** agendas....
CJS4715
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I will do my part to make sure these posts persist for the next year.
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cbr said:

oh and lol, how is it possible for any ******* to make a star wars franchise movie and get a 46% score at rotten tomatoes? LOL.

i'll tell you how, make a movie worse than phantom menace (55%), finish off two of the most iconic characters in movie history in an insulting, asinine way, and fill it full of PC bull**** agendas....
Actually, it's largely because there was literally an organized campaign from some very sad individuals who wanted to torpedo the film. Which you'd know if you'd paid any attention at all.
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cbr said:

oh and lol, how is it possible for any ******* to make a star wars franchise movie and get a 46% score at rotten tomatoes? LOL.

i'll tell you how, make a movie worse than phantom menace (55%), finish off two of the most iconic characters in movie history in an insulting, asinine way, and fill it full of PC bull**** agendas....
Yeah, you can't trust RT anymore. It's been comprised. I would ignore reviews there.
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Since it was brought up...

In my 2 viewings I did not get the implication that the bombers came out of hyperspace. Is it that hard to show them do so?

Also, did none of those bomber or fighter pilots have radios that connected to Leia's cruiser? Or did they all also ignore the general's direct order?
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redline248 said:

Since it was brought up...

In my 2 viewings I did not get the implication that the bombers came out of hyperspace. Is it that hard to show them do so?

Also, did none of those bomber or fighter pilots have radios that connected to Leia's cruiser? Or did they all also ignore the general's direct order?


What does showing them emerge from hyperspace add? What does it matter if they came from the next system over or were hiding behind a moon or whatever?

We never saw Leia contact anyone else. I assumed that Poe cutting her off and then ordering everyone into the fray put them in a situation they couldn't just pull out of; they were already committed. Really it's just advancing the plot, which is fine. People making big mistakes they shouldn't is pretty much central to every adventure movie ever.
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I think the speed is the hyperspace argument.

If you're traveling at a high rate of speed in space and you drop something, it will also have a high rate of speed.

If you're moving faster than another object, you could effectively aim correctly and get whatever it is you're dropping to hit that object.

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this bomber sequence discussion is tired... how about we discuss how easy to destroy the bombers are. no shields, 1 tie can take out a ship, in fact, I think 1 tie took out 2.

to summarize, the bombers:
- move slow
- are easy to destroy
- have to be directly above their target to work.
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Were the bombers completely new to SW lore or were they in some expanded universe game or other media?
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CJS4715 said:

Were the bombers completely new to SW lore or were they in some expanded universe game or other media?
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OnlyForNow said:

I think the speed is the hyperspace argument.

If you're traveling at a high rate of speed in space and you drop something, it will also have a high rate of speed.

If you're moving faster than another object, you could effectively aim correctly and get whatever it is you're dropping to hit that object.




Not sure I'm following. What are you talking about? The bombers?
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I remember those. I was curious about the low-speed version the Resistance was using. The tie bombers look a little quicker.
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Hyperspace is either going really fast or jumping a worm hole... depends on who you talk to i guess.
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Yes.
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OnlyForNow said:

Yes.


The bombers we're in realspace when they attacked so I'm not sure what your comments t is about.
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