...died on March 9th.
The Greatest Rapper of All-Time...
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Eminem is dead?
R.I.P. You will be missed...
Listened to 2Pac and Biggie's song, "Runnin'", on the way to class this morning.
I think you mean September 13th
it's either March 9th or February 15th...
I thought Curtis Blow was still alive.
2PAC is the greatest rapper that eva was.
And Jay-Z has already past up Biggie. But I still give great respect to The Notorious B.I.G. by putting him in the top 3.
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[This message has been edited by TxAginAz (edited 3/10/2011 9:59a).]
And Jay-Z has already past up Biggie. But I still give great respect to The Notorious B.I.G. by putting him in the top 3.
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"Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentation of their women."
Claude os, aperi oculos!
[This message has been edited by TxAginAz (edited 3/10/2011 9:59a).]
Damn. I thought this thread was going to be about Paul Wall.
Marshall isn't dead. Nobody else comes close.
Lupe Fiasco all day.
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1) Pac
2) Eminem
3) NWA as a group
2) Eminem
3) NWA as a group
4ever.
That's why we lost to ULaLa.
big
andre 3000
2 pac
jay z
eminem
andre 3000
2 pac
jay z
eminem
B.I.G. is and always will be #1
Black thought
Lupe fiasco
the best rapper of all time died on december 4th, 2007 in los angeles, california
rip pimp c
rip pimp c
Childish Gambino has died?
What will happen to Community?
What will happen to Community?
Vanilla ice died?
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G.O.A.T.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytH5R4EG-Hw
Second best rap video of all-time (behind "California Love"
. Excess done right. Every typical "rap" video followed this blueprint. The only one that came close was "Big Pimpin'" by Hov and UGK.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7yQwQtSN7M
One of the the two or three hardest songs evarz. A couple of other songs started the east/west coast beef, but this is the song that started and eventually ended the Tupac/Notorious B.I.G. beef. The beat, Big's verses, Puff's ad libs. Legendary b-side. Pac's career (and life) went downhill after this song. Sad.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsT8FaZnzdE
Best first/debut rap single ever? Maybe. The only ones that came close were "My Name Is" by Eminem and "In Da Club" by 50 Cent. Homer in his first at-bat. Who doesn't know the words to this song?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSj4_8MR2lI
Speaking of Eminem, this may be the only, ONLY song that he got upstaged on. He destroyed Jay-Z on "Renegade" and Hov put out two of his best verses on that track. 50, Dre, Snoop, Royce, whoever. Eminem went harder than them if they split/traded verses. Except on this song. And Eminem laid this verse down posthumously after Big's death. Big made Em look like Carlton Banks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEPgA4ZQf0U
"Stan" by Eminem? "99 Problems" by Jay-Z? "One Love" by Nas? Basically any song that featured the same rapper rapping back to himself as another character/entity, well, Big did it before them and better.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNwvHEme_JE
Probably the first and last rapper to go at both Raekwon and Ghostface and win. And this was during the height of the Wu's powers. Dude said "**** it, why try, throw bleach in your eyes, now you brailin' it..." I love, love, love Rae and Ghost, but they're was no coming back from that diss. He even implicitly dissed DJ Premier on this track and Primo was the one that produced it! Monster status.
He really can't be touched.
Best flow:
1. Notorious B.I.G.
2. Snoop Doggy Dogg (1992-1995)
3. Eminem (1997-2002)
4. Method Man (1993-1995)
5. Jay-Z (2001)
Best punchlines:
1. Big L
2. Notorious B.I.G.
3. Canibus
4. Big Daddy Kane (1987-1990)
5. Jay-Z (2003)
Creativity/Imagination:
1. Andre 3000
2. Eminem (pre-2005)
3. Notorious B.I.G.
4. Nas
5. Kanye West
Best voice:
1. Snoop Dogg
2. Tupac
3. DMX
4. Method Man
5. Notorious B.I.G.
Best delivery:
1. Ice Cube
2. DMX
3. Notorious B.I.G.
4. LL Cool J (1984-1992)
5. Kool Keith
Most versatile:
1. Jay-Z
2. Notorious B.I.G.
3. Andre 3000
4. Nas
5. Eminem
Best catalogue:
1. Notorious B.I.G.
2. A Tribe Called Quest
3. Ghostface Killah
4. Eric B. and Rakim
5. The Roots/maybe Kanye West
Biggest impact:
1. Run-DMC
2. LL Cool J
3. Tupac
4. Dr. Dre
5. Notorious B.I.G.
Most quotable/biteable/imitated:
1. Rakim
2. Notorious B.I.G.
3. N.W.A.
4. Tupac
5. Snoop Doggy Dogg
And yes. Back to the thread title. Referenced in the best battle/diss song ever:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z63cQKWlDgQ
"The greatest rapper of all-time died on March 9th/ God bless his soul, rest in peace, kid/ It's because of him now at least I know What('s) Beef is..."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytH5R4EG-Hw
Second best rap video of all-time (behind "California Love"
. Excess done right. Every typical "rap" video followed this blueprint. The only one that came close was "Big Pimpin'" by Hov and UGK.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7yQwQtSN7M
One of the the two or three hardest songs evarz. A couple of other songs started the east/west coast beef, but this is the song that started and eventually ended the Tupac/Notorious B.I.G. beef. The beat, Big's verses, Puff's ad libs. Legendary b-side. Pac's career (and life) went downhill after this song. Sad.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsT8FaZnzdE
Best first/debut rap single ever? Maybe. The only ones that came close were "My Name Is" by Eminem and "In Da Club" by 50 Cent. Homer in his first at-bat. Who doesn't know the words to this song?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSj4_8MR2lI
Speaking of Eminem, this may be the only, ONLY song that he got upstaged on. He destroyed Jay-Z on "Renegade" and Hov put out two of his best verses on that track. 50, Dre, Snoop, Royce, whoever. Eminem went harder than them if they split/traded verses. Except on this song. And Eminem laid this verse down posthumously after Big's death. Big made Em look like Carlton Banks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEPgA4ZQf0U
"Stan" by Eminem? "99 Problems" by Jay-Z? "One Love" by Nas? Basically any song that featured the same rapper rapping back to himself as another character/entity, well, Big did it before them and better.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNwvHEme_JE
Probably the first and last rapper to go at both Raekwon and Ghostface and win. And this was during the height of the Wu's powers. Dude said "**** it, why try, throw bleach in your eyes, now you brailin' it..." I love, love, love Rae and Ghost, but they're was no coming back from that diss. He even implicitly dissed DJ Premier on this track and Primo was the one that produced it! Monster status.
He really can't be touched.
Best flow:
1. Notorious B.I.G.
2. Snoop Doggy Dogg (1992-1995)
3. Eminem (1997-2002)
4. Method Man (1993-1995)
5. Jay-Z (2001)
Best punchlines:
1. Big L
2. Notorious B.I.G.
3. Canibus
4. Big Daddy Kane (1987-1990)
5. Jay-Z (2003)
Creativity/Imagination:
1. Andre 3000
2. Eminem (pre-2005)
3. Notorious B.I.G.
4. Nas
5. Kanye West
Best voice:
1. Snoop Dogg
2. Tupac
3. DMX
4. Method Man
5. Notorious B.I.G.
Best delivery:
1. Ice Cube
2. DMX
3. Notorious B.I.G.
4. LL Cool J (1984-1992)
5. Kool Keith
Most versatile:
1. Jay-Z
2. Notorious B.I.G.
3. Andre 3000
4. Nas
5. Eminem
Best catalogue:
1. Notorious B.I.G.
2. A Tribe Called Quest
3. Ghostface Killah
4. Eric B. and Rakim
5. The Roots/maybe Kanye West
Biggest impact:
1. Run-DMC
2. LL Cool J
3. Tupac
4. Dr. Dre
5. Notorious B.I.G.
Most quotable/biteable/imitated:
1. Rakim
2. Notorious B.I.G.
3. N.W.A.
4. Tupac
5. Snoop Doggy Dogg
And yes. Back to the thread title. Referenced in the best battle/diss song ever:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z63cQKWlDgQ
"The greatest rapper of all-time died on March 9th/ God bless his soul, rest in peace, kid/ It's because of him now at least I know What('s) Beef is..."
I misread the title and thought this was a kobe/roethlisberger thread
Just checked and KRS-One is still alive
What about this guy?
Head Ninja... Your lists are pretty good for post 1992 rap but you are missing quite of bit of "perspective" about Hip-Hop. If you are keeping rap and Hip-Hop separate, I understand. I do the same thing but there are a lot of really notable artists you fail to mention.
No Public Enemy, Beastie Boys, Grandmaster Flash, Kurtis Blow.
No Public Enemy, Beastie Boys, Grandmaster Flash, Kurtis Blow.
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The only one I omitted was Chuck D. He has a top five voice for sure.
Kurtis Blow was an average rapper. Pioneer for sure, but he wasn't anything special. Grandmaster Flash wasn't a rapper. If anyone from the Furious Five gets props for rapping, it'd be Melle Mel since he was the mouthpiece for the group. "The Message" is one of the ten best rap songs ever made and it was all Melle Mel. The Beasties have their place, but they should be nowhere near a discussion of best rapper(s) ever. They get their credit for style and energy, and to a lesser extent, their use (or abuse?) of sampling.
Kurtis Blow was an average rapper. Pioneer for sure, but he wasn't anything special. Grandmaster Flash wasn't a rapper. If anyone from the Furious Five gets props for rapping, it'd be Melle Mel since he was the mouthpiece for the group. "The Message" is one of the ten best rap songs ever made and it was all Melle Mel. The Beasties have their place, but they should be nowhere near a discussion of best rapper(s) ever. They get their credit for style and energy, and to a lesser extent, their use (or abuse?) of sampling.
you will be missed
Dylon
You can't keep hip-hop and rap separate. Rap is hip-hop.
Wow, no mention of Rakim? Not once? You guys are young as hades.
I knew Chad, who attended my H.S. He was a freshman when I was a senior. Cool lil dude.
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I have seen the enemy, and he is us.
I knew Chad, who attended my H.S. He was a freshman when I was a senior. Cool lil dude.
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I have seen the enemy, and he is us.
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Best flow:
1. Notorious B.I.G.
2. Snoop Doggy Dogg (1992-1995)
3. Eminem (1997-2002)
4. Method Man (1993-1995)
5. Jay-Z (2001)
Where's Big L? I think he's the only rapper that even rivals Biggie lyrically...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzyaAuPh1lE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToTRFS-6eUs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCm5jBOdeUw
No one ever thinks about him only because he didn't get into the mainstream/radio hip hop scene before he was murdered. Next to Notorious BIG, I don't think there was ever a better rapper.
Nevermind...I don't know why I didn't see him listed under punch lines.
I'm glad he's recognized somewhere.
I'm glad he's recognized somewhere.
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