Trump indicted over classified documents

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In reply to Maroon Dawn • 1:22p, 6/9/23
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Maroon Dawn said:
Ags77 said:
Candidate Trump said he would not stand for this type of behavior.


^ Behold the target leftist demographic

Now they don't have to trouble their heads about defending Biden selling his office to the highest foreign bidder


Can anyone make a reply without using Biden or Hillary?
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In reply to Ags77 • 1:27p, 6/9/23
Ags77 said:
Maroon Dawn said:
Ags77 said:
Candidate Trump said he would not stand for this type of behavior.


^ Behold the target leftist demographic

Now they don't have to trouble their heads about defending Biden selling his office to the highest foreign bidder


Can anyone make a reply without using Biden or Hillary?


Yes, this is obviously a political witchhunt against a rabidly unpopular, will-never-see-the-inside-of-the-WH-again-anyway candidate.

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1:27p, 6/9/23
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This is a glorified discovery fight. Attorneys argue about the scope of discovery on everyday that ends in "y."
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In reply to Ags77 • 1:30p, 6/9/23
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Brandon and Grandma cabbage farts, happy?
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In reply to BQ78 • 1:31p, 6/9/23
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Brandon and Grandma cabbage farts, happy?


Lol..
Good one

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In reply to BigRobSA • 1:35p, 6/9/23
BigRobSA said:
Ags77 said:
Maroon Dawn said:
Ags77 said:
Candidate Trump said he would not stand for this type of behavior.


^ Behold the target leftist demographic

Now they don't have to trouble their heads about defending Biden selling his office to the highest foreign bidder


Can anyone make a reply without using Biden or Hillary?


Yes, this is obviously a political witchhunt against a rabidly unpopular, will-never-see-the-inside-of-the-WH-again-anyway candidate.



But can you make it a haiku?
There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. Hippocrates
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In reply to aggiehawg • 1:36p, 6/9/23
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This is a glorified discovery fight. Attorneys argue about the scope of discovery on everyday that ends in "y."


Why, if there's so much to work with for Trump, are his attorneys not lasting? What are we missing?
There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. Hippocrates
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1:39p, 6/9/23
Is there any way it could keep him from running in the primary? That would be ideal. Assuming he is acquitted later, if it could prevent from running then DeSantis wins the primary. He'd go on to win the general and world is saved!
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In reply to No Spin Ag • 1:42p, 6/9/23
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No Spin Ag said:
aggiehawg said:
This is a glorified discovery fight. Attorneys argue about the scope of discovery on everyday that ends in "y."


Why, if there's so much to work with for Trump, are his attorneys not lasting? What are we missing?
Intimidation tactics against the lawyers.

But remember one thing, we still did not know what the probable cause affidavit said to support the search warrant.
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In reply to Ags77 • 1:43p, 6/9/23
Ags77 said:
Maroon Dawn said:
Ags77 said:
Candidate Trump said he would not stand for this type of behavior.
^ Behold the target leftist demographic

Now they don't have to trouble their heads about defending Biden selling his office to the highest foreign bidder
Can anyone make a reply without using Biden or Hillary?
It's hard not to, considering equal treatment under the law no longer exists, specifically in the eyes of the FBI, Federal DOJ, IRS and now many states, cities and counties.
The budget should be balanced, the treasury should be refilled, the public debt should be reduced, the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed, lest Rome become bankrupt.
People must again learn to work, instead of living on public assistance.
-- Cicero, 55 B.C.
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1:46p, 6/9/23
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They drew a Trump appointee to oversee the case. Oopsie.
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In reply to aggiehawg • 1:54p, 6/9/23
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aggiehawg said:
This is a glorified discovery fight. Attorneys argue about the scope of discovery on everyday that ends in "y."

Indictment

Just finished reading the Indictment, and suspect Jack Smith is prepared to turn over everything he's got -- maybe at the Arraignment if not the Initial Appearance. I know one thing for certain ... If it hasn't already, Waltine Nauta's life is about to change.
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In reply to TAMU1990 • 1:54p, 6/9/23
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TAMU1990 said:
Ags77 said:
Another person was indicted and apparently they have tape of Trump and the other person indicted discussing lying to the FBI
Other person... meaning his lawyer?


No. Name is Walt Nauta. Aide to the former president
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In reply to AC Hopper • 1:56p, 6/9/23
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AC Hopper said:
aggiehawg said:
This is a glorified discovery fight. Attorneys argue about the scope of discovery on everyday that ends in "y."

Indictment

Just finished reading the Indictment, and suspect Jack Smith is prepared to turn over everything he's got -- maybe at the Arraignment if not the Initial Appearance. I know one thing for certain ... If it hasn't already, Waltine Nauta's life is about to change.
Seriously doubt that will happen.
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1:59p, 6/9/23
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Certainly not the documents, but my hunch is they're ready to put this on the fast track.
He's soon to appear on TV.
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In reply to No Spin Ag • 1:59p, 6/9/23
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No Spin Ag said:
You're right, the real world sucks. There's no magic bullet to fix things, and I wish there was.

And you're right, if Desantis does get things straightened up some it might be for not if the flipside Democrat comes in and undoes it.

I guess that's why I say it has to be changed from the bottom up, because one person in the White House can't do it. The system was designed to make sure of that.
The system was designed for reasonably moral people with a set of ethics to manage it and not leave it up to a small number of people.

The problem is, the modern left has embraced marxist doctrine and are using those very systems to rot the country from the inside out. This is beyond your typical politician shenanigans from either party or who wants to spend on more on government programs...the current hard-left leadership in this country do not want a balanced system. They want an authoritarian govt that imposes its will on the people. They believe the people serve 'the state', not that the government serves the people.
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In reply to Ags77 • 2:01p, 6/9/23
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Ags77 said:
Can anyone make a reply without using Biden or Hillary?
Why should either of them be exempt from the conversation? It's been documented that they have spied on political opponents, colluded with foreign govts for personal gain, and unlawfully handled classified information.

People like you only want to lecture others when it's Trump...but then get annoyed when the other side is brought into the conversation.
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In reply to Gigem314 • 2:06p, 6/9/23
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Gigem314 said:
Ags77 said:
Can anyone make a reply without using Biden or Hillary?
Why should either of them be exempt from the conversation? It's been documented that they have spied on political opponents, colluded with foreign govts for personal gain, and unlawfully handled classified information.

People like you only want to lecture others when it's Trump...but then get annoyed when the other side is brought into the conversation.


Hey if there is evidence and a case is made against Hillary, Biden, Obama, Bush etc... ... I say get after it. There is an indictment here, and its against trump and all guys like you want to say is " what about Hillary ? ". " What about Biden ? "
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In reply to Ags77 • 2:08p, 6/9/23
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Ags77 said:
Maroon Dawn said:
Ags77 said:
Candidate Trump said he would not stand for this type of behavior.


^ Behold the target leftist demographic

Now they don't have to trouble their heads about defending Biden selling his office to the highest foreign bidder


Can anyone make a reply without using Biden or Hillary?

Why should we? Most true Americans are upset with the unjust application of the law. You libs like to scream "equality" until it doesn't fit your agenda.
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In reply to Rockdoc • 2:09p, 6/9/23
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Rockdoc said:
Ags77 said:
Maroon Dawn said:
Ags77 said:
Candidate Trump said he would not stand for this type of behavior.


^ Behold the target leftist demographic

Now they don't have to trouble their heads about defending Biden selling his office to the highest foreign bidder


Can anyone make a reply without using Biden or Hillary?

Why should we? Most true Americans are upset with the unjust application of the law. You libs like to scream "equality" until it doesn't fit your agenda.


Fine. But I'm not a liberal and you continue to say what about Hillary and what about Biden all you want.
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In reply to Ags77 • 2:09p, 6/9/23
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Ags77 said:
Maroon Dawn said:
Ags77 said:
Candidate Trump said he would not stand for this type of behavior.


^ Behold the target leftist demographic

Now they don't have to trouble their heads about defending Biden selling his office to the highest foreign bidder


Can anyone make a reply without using Biden or Hillary?
Why? Is the double standard making you uncomfortable? It should. Its real. And is a far bigger issue than anything Trump has done.
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2:10p, 6/9/23
This hack Jack Smith stood there with a straight face and said there are one set of laws and they apply to everyone.
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In reply to Ags77 • 2:11p, 6/9/23
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Ags77 said:
Rockdoc said:
Ags77 said:
Maroon Dawn said:
Ags77 said:
Candidate Trump said he would not stand for this type of behavior.


^ Behold the target leftist demographic

Now they don't have to trouble their heads about defending Biden selling his office to the highest foreign bidder


Can anyone make a reply without using Biden or Hillary?

Why should we? Most true Americans are upset with the unjust application of the law. You libs like to scream "equality" until it doesn't fit your agenda.


Fine. But I'm not a liberal and you continue to say what about Hillary and what about Biden all you want.

We intend to (and I don't believe you)
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2:11p, 6/9/23
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I just saw Jack Smith on Newsmax. A dishonest prosecutor who hates Trump. Our nation cannot stand with this form of government. It is like the Middle East, Russia, Iran, etc.
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In reply to 4stringAg • 2:12p, 6/9/23
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4stringAg said:
Ags77 said:
Maroon Dawn said:
Ags77 said:
Candidate Trump said he would not stand for this type of behavior.


^ Behold the target leftist demographic

Now they don't have to trouble their heads about defending Biden selling his office to the highest foreign bidder


Can anyone make a reply without using Biden or Hillary?
Why? Is the double standard making you uncomfortable? It should. Its real. And is a far bigger issue than anything Trump has done.


It doesn't make me uncomfortable in the least. Just would like to see people discuss the case without what about Hillary and what about Trump. But it's a free country... say it all you want.
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In reply to Rockdoc • 2:13p, 6/9/23
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Rockdoc said:
Ags77 said:
Rockdoc said:
Ags77 said:
Maroon Dawn said:
Ags77 said:
Candidate Trump said he would not stand for this type of behavior.


^ Behold the target leftist demographic

Now they don't have to trouble their heads about defending Biden selling his office to the highest foreign bidder


Can anyone make a reply without using Biden or Hillary?

Why should we? Most true Americans are upset with the unjust application of the law. You libs like to scream "equality" until it doesn't fit your agenda.


Fine. But I'm not a liberal and you continue to say what about Hillary and what about Biden all you want.

We intend to (and I don't believe you)

No problem
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In reply to Houstonag • 2:13p, 6/9/23
Houstonag said:
I just saw Jack Smith on Newsmax. A dishonest prosecutor who hates Trump. Our nation cannot stand with this form of government. It is like the Middle East, Russia, Iran, etc.
We know. Our country is in decline
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In reply to aggiehawg • 2:14p, 6/9/23
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The Department of Justice is preparing to ask a Washington, DC grand jury to indict former president Donald Trump for violating the Espionage Act and for obstruction of justice as soon as Thursday, adding further weight to the legal baggage facing Mr Trump as he campaigns for his party's nomination in next year's presidential election.

The Independent has learned that prosecutors are ready to ask grand jurors to approve an indictment against Mr Trump for violating a portion of the US criminal code known as Section 793, which prohibits "gathering, transmitting or losing" any "information respecting the national defence".

The use of Section 793, which does not make reference to classified information, is understood to be a strategic decision by prosecutors that has been made to short-circuit Mr Trump's ability to claim that he used his authority as president to declassify documents he removed from the White House and kept at his Palm Beach, Florida property long after his term expired on 20 January 2021.

That section of US criminal law is written in a way that could encompass Mr Trump's conduct even if he was authorised to possess the information as president because it states that anyone who "lawfully having possession of, access to, control over, or being entrusted with any document …relating to the national defence," and "willfully communicates, delivers, transmits or causes to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted or attempts to communicate, deliver, transmit or cause to be communicated, delivered or transmitted the same to any person not entitled to receive it, or willfully retains the same and fails to deliver it on demand to the officer or employee of the United States entitled to receive it" can be punished by as many as ten years in prison.
LINK

I remember that Mueller went after Manafort in both DC and Virginia. So is wasting multiple federal court resources is standard now?


Uh, hem! You making this complaint on behalf of a guy who filed or caused to be filed dozens of frivolous lawsuits that were quickly dismissed and sometimes ended with sanctions? That's pretty bold.
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2:18p, 6/9/23
Biden as a sitting Senator literally removed classified documents from the SCIF in the basement of the Capitol and took them home!!!!!

The media washes over this like it never happened.
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In reply to samurai_science • 2:19p, 6/9/23
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Yes. But any sane American now who is not a communist should be fully motivated to vote AGAINST whatever the Democrats (CCP) puts on the ballot in 2024, at all levels.

Again, as I've posted a few times, it is not enough to be 'conservative' etc., one must be anti-communist, first, second, third, and so on. Nothing happening politically is really new, at all, including political prosecutions and the 'gender' wars.





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In reply to RoadkillBBQ • 2:23p, 6/9/23
RoadkillBBQ said:
Harry Stone said:
how are we going to stop this. the dems and their agencies are out of control.
A mans rights rest in 3 boxes.

Freddie D. knew a thing or two about all three.
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In reply to nortex97 • 2:23p, 6/9/23
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Yes. But any sane American now who is not a communist should be fully motivated to vote AGAINST whatever the Democrats (CCP) puts on the ballot in 2024, at all levels.

The original social justice movement that continues among the left today.

Volksgemeinschaft means 'peoples community'.

The idea was to abolish distinctions between classes, genders, and so on, and equalize all Germans in the community.


Hitler promised the creation of a "socially just state" that would "eradicate all social barriers".
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In reply to Ags77 • 2:28p, 6/9/23
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Ags77 said:
Maroon Dawn said:
Ags77 said:
Candidate Trump said he would not stand for this type of behavior.


^ Behold the target leftist demographic

Now they don't have to trouble their heads about defending Biden selling his office to the highest foreign bidder


Can anyone make a reply without using Biden or Hillary?


Given the context, do you know how stupid this sounds?

Of course you don't want to discuss Hillary or Joe's crimes. You're an unapologetic hypocrite.
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2:29p, 6/9/23
Does trump get bail? Apparently people charged with espionage rarely get bail but maybe he'll get house arrest rather than an actual orange jumpsuit.

I believe each of the espionage charges carries a punishment of 10 years in prison, so he's looking at 310 years just on those counts, not including the false statements, obstruction, etc. Where should we set the over/under? 150 years, maybe?
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In reply to Ags77 • 2:29p, 6/9/23
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Ags77 said:
Gigem314 said:
Ags77 said:
Can anyone make a reply without using Biden or Hillary?
Why should either of them be exempt from the conversation? It's been documented that they have spied on political opponents, colluded with foreign govts for personal gain, and unlawfully handled classified information.

People like you only want to lecture others when it's Trump...but then get annoyed when the other side is brought into the conversation.


Hey if there is evidence and a case is made against Hillary, Biden, Obama, Bush etc... ... I say get after it. There is an indictment here, and its against trump and all guys like you want to say is " what about Hillary ? ". " What about Biden ? "
Why would the Democrats and their allies in the corrupt DOJ and FBI do that?

Do you honestly believe there's zero evidence out there of wrongdoing by Hillary and Biden? You honestly believe the Hunter Biden laptop story was 'Russian disinformation' and the FBI just sat on it because they didn't know what it was? You honestly believe Hillary's private server was lawful? You honestly believe her campaign didn't spy on Trump?

You live in such a delusional world of "Trump bad, but I'm sure the Democrats would never do that!" you can't even see double standard being applied right now because you're more interested in seeing the Republicans out of power than actually seeing law applied to both sides.
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