I think he wants him to die, without it being obvious it was him. If he just lets boyd fall, then Boyd's goons just kill him. So when he didnt fall right through, he had to save him.

It appears the mid season slump is upon us. At least Wynona is still hot. Even being a mere four months postpartum. Amazing.

between this thread and the bcs thread, i'm convinced the internet has given 95% of adults ADD. every episode of every show is "slow" or "slumping".

here you go, just put this on a one hour loop:

I'm fine with slow. I'm fine with developing characters. But Justified has crawled in the middle of every season. What happened tonight? Wynano is back and Boyd made Ava come clean. That's it. That ain't slow. That's a throw away episode in the final season.

Boyd is so damn crafty.

He should have let Nelson hold the baby.

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Just one more thing.

Another classic Raylan/Tim exchange. That was funny.

I have a feeling that either Winona or Ava end up dead in the end.

Oh, not Winona. Please not Winona.

Winona ain't dying.

Ava better ****ing die.

I enjoyed last night's episode. I thought the Boyd sense were pretty intense. But again, so much Ava screen time in those emotional scenes can be rough to get through.

Winona just gave Raylan authority to have his cake and eat it too. I think he's now wiser, and he's going to go out with one last bang.

I guess I'll predict it: Rachel is killed by one of the bad guys, probably Walker. Raylan takes the kingpin & Boyd down, Art recommends Raylan for Chief Deputy. Raylan and Winona stay in Lexington, and Raylan lives his life with his wife and child letting his deputies do the gritty work for the most part, but sometimes getting into the fray, much like Art.

Raylan and Tim exchanges and the Art vs Sam Elliot exchanges were great!

The rest was meh. But I've come to expect a few episodes like this each year.

I agree hayden!

Don't get me wrong, it's still one of the best shows on TV right now. There were some fun moments, as you mentioned. But overall, I thought the episode was pretty darn weak compared to the standard that justified has made for itself.

I think my biggest issue was that the entire dynamic between Ryland and Wynona was not believable to me at all.

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This.

After all of their turmoil over the last few years and she shows up out of the blue with that message? Random.

Ever loved someone so badly you couldnt stand to live without them...and have a child with them?

She didn't show up out of the blue, did she? I thought she was in town for something with the baby, and Raylan missed it.

Also, he has been telling her since birth that he's going to be down in florida soon, and he keeps putting her off. She knows she can't do it without him, so she went to basically force the hand. Either they start discussing joint custody, or they work on raising the baby together as a family.

I thought it played brilliantly. We always thought Raylan wanted that, and you started to think she did too. Then, after the first tumultuous months of raising the child and she's at her wit's end, she all the sudden brings up separate lives to gauge how Raylan would take it. He calms her down, lets her rest while he takes the baby. When he comes back, the baby isn't crying, Winona is rested, and she finds out he took the baby to the office. She then makes the realization that she wants and needs Raylan in her life and by her side, but that he also can't get away from the work. And she's ok with that now with the baby being there.

Also, there's a reason Winona's scenes have been so sporadic over the last few years, and that's due to her availability. They had to load her all up into one episode(and basically one scene) so they could get her on set and churn out her storyline as much as possible in a day or 2 of shooting, so she could go fulfill other work obligations.

Given those restrictions, I thought it worked really well.

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I thought it played brilliantly. We always thought Raylan wanted that, and you started to think she did too. Then, after the first tumultuous months of raising the child and she's at her wit's end, she all the sudden brings up separate lives to gauge how Raylan would take it. He calms her down, lets her rest while he takes the baby. When he comes back, the baby isn't crying, Winona is rested, and she finds out he took the baby to the office. She then makes the realization that she wants and needs Raylan in her life and by her side, but that he also can't get away from the work. And she's ok with that now with the baby being there.

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This summed it up better than I did. Nothing about Winona's scenes seemed out of place at all. Only out of place thing this show has this season is Ava not being able to carry her sceneload.

As far as it being not up to Justified standards -- While it isn't Bennett-clan "great" Justified, last season being so meh just made me long for "good" Justified, so I'm more than happy.

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I'm surprised they let him back around that hotel I know he's killed at least ONE person there. Wasn't Winona held hostage there or something once? Hell, I'd go stay at the Hampton Inn.

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So my daughter saw Sam Elliot again and his old man eyebrows, and said "How did Nana think he was sexy?"

Then she saw Raylan holding the baby, and now she wants me to buy the rest of the series....

What have I wrought?

Want to see a great "slow" episode? Watch tonight's The Americans.

"If you wanted me to shoot you in the front you should've run towards me."

Greatness

Really good episode. The ghost scene was a little odd, but it worked. And kudos to Gordo for finally getting his shout-out.

Good episode last night. The grave commentary was pretty funny with the casket talk.

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They also threw out a reference to Grubes

Wasn't my favorite episode. The Ty Walker death was just not a good payoff. He opened the season so strong, 2 shots to the back kinda sucks as a way to see him go. Figured it'd be a bit tougher than that to get him.

Oh well. Home stretch now. Each episode should be getting more intense.

One of the best episodes of great lines:

"And how about the manner in which they were buried?"
"I wasn't around, but I'd imagine he put her in the cheapest piece of sh*t available."
"And him?"
"I put him in the cheapest piece of sh*t available."

"Why isn't anybody down here named 'Steve' or 'Justin'?"

"He's in the bathroom cleaning his shirt. He spilled some guacamole on it."
"It's 9:30 in the morning."
"He loves the guac!"

"You play tennis? We should play doubles sometime!"

Plus, I loved the realism of Zachariah and Raylan's scuffle: they each get two good punches in, then both just say screw it and give up and move on.

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Wasn't my favorite episode. The Ty Walker death was just not a good payoff. He opened the season so strong, 2 shots to the back kinda sucks as a way to see him go. Figured it'd be a bit tougher than that to get him.

Oh well. Home stretch now. Each episode should be getting more intense.

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I wish it had been done a little better, but i think there's a reason they wanted to do it with him running off and shot in the back -- something that goes against his entire being.

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Wasn't my favorite episode. The Ty Walker death was just not a good payoff. He opened the season so strong, 2 shots to the back kinda sucks as a way to see him go. Figured it'd be a bit tougher than that to get him.

Oh well. Home stretch now. Each episode should be getting more intense.

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I wish it had been done a little better, but i think there's a reason they wanted to do it with him running off and shot in the back -- something that goes against his entire being.

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It was worth the payoff of him saying "This is bullsh*t, you shot me in the back." and Raylan's retort.

Yeah. I can see some significance, but I guess it just was anticlimactic for the type of death of a character that was extremely intriguing this season. The whole scene just kinda happened and then done. Given how much screen time Walker had throughout the first half of the season, was really hoping for more there.

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The opening scene and Arlo ghost scene were way out of place. I know that will happen with different directors, but it was still odd. Everything else was great. How many episodes left?

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I felt the initial scene was sudden, but not necessarily out of place... The whole story arch in this season has been Raylan finally getting out of Harlan and leaving his past behind him. Putting the house on the market, dealing with the gravestones, committing to Winona, etc...

I'd assume it's all setting up for his death due to his inability to let the past go, but we'll see.

The end scene was odd as it dove right into something that had never really been discussed before. Almost felt like to me that the actor who plays Arlo had some kind of contract stating he'd be present in this season or X number of episodes so they had to jam him in there in ghost format.

Early onset Alzheimer's disorder with behavioral features or inherited bipolar disorder with psychotic features.