Ivermectin study

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snowdog90
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https://www.theblaze.com/news/ivermectin-covid-treatment-new-study

88k studied
Peer reviewed
92% death reduction using ivermectin
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Illuminaggie
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We'll see how long this one stays up. Talking about the study, not the post. His last one was dropped fairly quick and I'm seeing the same sort of questions beginning to surface on this one.

fullback44
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RGLAG85
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HarleySpoon
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Blue star OP
PerpetualLurker
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Why did they exclude a majority of ivermectin users? I couldn't find an explanation. Why wouldn't they show this data? They show irregular usage and no usage, but not this group.

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Results
There were 159,560 participants aged 18 years and above not infected with COVID-19 prior to July 7, 2020, from the city of Itaja, Brazil. Among them, 45,716 (28.7%) did not use ivermectin and 113,844 (71.3%) used ivermectin prophylactically. Of the 113,844 participants, 8,325 (7.3%) subjects used ivermectin regularly and 33,971 (29.8%) used ivermectin irregularly. In total, 88,012 subjects were included in the present analysis. The 71,548 (62.8%) remaining participants used intermediate doses between 60 mg and 180 mg and were not included in this analysis.
PerpetualLurker
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https://www.cureus.com/articles/82162-ivermectin-prophylaxis-used-for-covid-19-a-citywide-prospective-observational-study-of-223128-subjects-using-propensity-score-matching/correction/126

This is for an earlier article, but in regards to same study and same authors.

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Correction
It has come to the attention of the journal that several authors failed to disclose all relevant conflicts of interest when submitting this article. As a result, Cureus is issuing the following erratum and updating the relevant conflict of interest disclosures to ensure these conflicts of interest are properly described as recommended by the ICMJ:

Lucy Kerr: Paid consultant for both Vitamedic, an ivermectin manufacturer, and Mdicos Pela Vida (MPV), an organization that promotes ivermectin as a treatment for COVID-19.

Flavio A. Cadegiani: Paid consultant ($1,600.00 USD) for Vitamedic, an ivermectin manufacturer. Dr. Cadegiani is a founding member of the Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance (FLCCC), an organization that promotes ivermectin as a treatment for COVID-19.

Pierre Kory: President and Chief Medical Officer of the Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance (FLCCC), an organization that promotes ivermectin as a treatment for COVID-19. Dr. Kory reports receiving payments from FLCCC. In February of 2022, Dr. Kory opened a private telehealth fee-based service to evaluate and treat patients with acute COVID, long haul COVID, and post-vaccination syndromes.

Jennifer A. Hibberd: Co-founder of the Canadian Covid Care Alliance and World Council for Health, both of which discourage vaccination and encourage ivermectin as a treatment for COVID-19.

Juan J. Chamie-Quintero: Contributor to the Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance (FLCCC) and lists the FLCCC as his employer on his LinkedIn page.
PerpetualLurker
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Lastly, how much of this was due to treating covid vs improving general health due to treating parasites?

I'm not a doctor, and my last biology course was in high school, so please bear with my questions.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8186895/#:~:text=The%20prevalence%20of%20intestinal%20parasitic%20infections%20(protozoa%20and%2For%20helminths,Central%2DWest%20regions%2C%20respectively.
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The prevalence of intestinal parasitic infections (protozoa and/or helminths) in Brazil was 46% (confidence interval: 39-54%), with 99% heterogeneity.
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CONCLUSIONS
The prevalence of intestinal parasitic infections is high in Brazil, and anthelmintic drugs should be administered periodically as a prophylactic measure, as recommended by the WHO.
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Not a surprise that improving baseline health by curing parasitic infection improves COVID outcomes. Not likely to be replicated in countries with low baseline parasitic disease but worth a study.
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fullback44
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PerpetualLurker said:

Why did they exclude a majority of ivermectin users? I couldn't find an explanation. Why wouldn't they show this data? They show irregular usage and no usage, but not this group.

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Results
There were 159,560 participants aged 18 years and above not infected with COVID-19 prior to July 7, 2020, from the city of Itaja, Brazil. Among them, 45,716 (28.7%) did not use ivermectin and 113,844 (71.3%) used ivermectin prophylactically. Of the 113,844 participants, 8,325 (7.3%) subjects used ivermectin regularly and 33,971 (29.8%) used ivermectin irregularly. In total, 88,012 subjects were included in the present analysis. The 71,548 (62.8%) remaining participants used intermediate doses between 60 mg and 180 mg and were not included in this analysis.

Then why did the NIH recently add ivermectin as a medicine that is now approved to treat covid?
PerpetualLurker
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https://www.covid19treatmentguidelines.nih.gov/therapies/antiviral-therapy/ivermectin/
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Recommendation
The Panel recommends against the use of ivermectin for the treatment of COVID-19, except in clinical trials ().


Its on the list because its being studied in trials, but they recommend against it, currently.
fullback44
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PerpetualLurker said:


https://www.covid19treatmentguidelines.nih.gov/therapies/antiviral-therapy/ivermectin/
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Recommendation
The Panel recommends against the use of ivermectin for the treatment of COVID-19, except in clinical trials ().


Its on the list because its being studied in trials, but they recommend against it, currently.
but but its on the NIH list, it wouldn't be on that list if it didn't work. many countries used ivermectin as their main treatment drug and it worked amazingly, this information has been out a long time already. Now the Brazilian study on 88k people showing its extremely effective. this isnt a cow paste as the MSM called it, its a legitimate covid treatment med and the NIH is FINALLY recognizing it... the first step in recognizing its usefulness as a covid med has been taken, let the rest of it fall into place..

Im done on this subject, not going to argue something that is now fact..
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PerpetualLurker said:

https://www.cureus.com/articles/82162-ivermectin-prophylaxis-used-for-covid-19-a-citywide-prospective-observational-study-of-223128-subjects-using-propensity-score-matching/correction/126

This is for an earlier article, but in regards to same study and same authors.

Quote:

Correction
It has come to the attention of the journal that several authors failed to disclose all relevant conflicts of interest when submitting this article. As a result, Cureus is issuing the following erratum and updating the relevant conflict of interest disclosures to ensure these conflicts of interest are properly described as recommended by the ICMJ:

Lucy Kerr: Paid consultant for both Vitamedic, an ivermectin manufacturer, and Mdicos Pela Vida (MPV), an organization that promotes ivermectin as a treatment for COVID-19.

Flavio A. Cadegiani: Paid consultant ($1,600.00 USD) for Vitamedic, an ivermectin manufacturer. Dr. Cadegiani is a founding member of the Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance (FLCCC), an organization that promotes ivermectin as a treatment for COVID-19.

Pierre Kory: President and Chief Medical Officer of the Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance (FLCCC), an organization that promotes ivermectin as a treatment for COVID-19. Dr. Kory reports receiving payments from FLCCC. In February of 2022, Dr. Kory opened a private telehealth fee-based service to evaluate and treat patients with acute COVID, long haul COVID, and post-vaccination syndromes.

Jennifer A. Hibberd: Co-founder of the Canadian Covid Care Alliance and World Council for Health, both of which discourage vaccination and encourage ivermectin as a treatment for COVID-19.

Juan J. Chamie-Quintero: Contributor to the Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance (FLCCC) and lists the FLCCC as his employer on his LinkedIn page.



I'd be curious to see Pierre Kory's survival rate throughout the pandemic. I'm willing to bet it is far higher than the national average. If this is the author's way of trying to disparage him, that is laughable. I'm sure the author hasn't done one damn thing to help people.
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fullback44 said:

PerpetualLurker said:

Why did they exclude a majority of ivermectin users? I couldn't find an explanation. Why wouldn't they show this data? They show irregular usage and no usage, but not this group.

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Results
There were 159,560 participants aged 18 years and above not infected with COVID-19 prior to July 7, 2020, from the city of Itaja, Brazil. Among them, 45,716 (28.7%) did not use ivermectin and 113,844 (71.3%) used ivermectin prophylactically. Of the 113,844 participants, 8,325 (7.3%) subjects used ivermectin regularly and 33,971 (29.8%) used ivermectin irregularly. In total, 88,012 subjects were included in the present analysis. The 71,548 (62.8%) remaining participants used intermediate doses between 60 mg and 180 mg and were not included in this analysis.

Then why did the NIH recently add ivermectin as a medicine that is now approved to treat covid?

They didn't. If you actually go to the site and look rather than just trusting a screenshot on twitter, when you click on the ivermectin link it still very clearly says they don't recommend it for treatment of Covid.
ChemEAg08
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BlackGoldAg2011 said:

fullback44 said:

PerpetualLurker said:

Why did they exclude a majority of ivermectin users? I couldn't find an explanation. Why wouldn't they show this data? They show irregular usage and no usage, but not this group.

Quote:

Results
There were 159,560 participants aged 18 years and above not infected with COVID-19 prior to July 7, 2020, from the city of Itaja, Brazil. Among them, 45,716 (28.7%) did not use ivermectin and 113,844 (71.3%) used ivermectin prophylactically. Of the 113,844 participants, 8,325 (7.3%) subjects used ivermectin regularly and 33,971 (29.8%) used ivermectin irregularly. In total, 88,012 subjects were included in the present analysis. The 71,548 (62.8%) remaining participants used intermediate doses between 60 mg and 180 mg and were not included in this analysis.

Then why did the NIH recently add ivermectin as a medicine that is now approved to treat covid?

They didn't. If you actually go to the site and look rather than just trusting a screenshot on twitter, when you click on the ivermectin link it still very clearly says they don't recommend it for treatment of Covid.


Hoosegow
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Just got sick a heck. Deep cough. Started the FLCCC ivermectin protocol yesterday. No fever today. Cough is a lot better. And no, I'm not dumb enough to get tested. But... tonight, my cough is almost gone. I only feel a little bit sick.

Completely anecdotal, but I felt a lot better about 4 hours taking my first dose of Ivermectin and damn near feel normal after my second.

And then again it all could be the pseudo effect
snowdog90
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Hoosegow said:

Just got sick a heck. Deep cough. Started the FLCCC ivermectin protocol yesterday. No fever today. Cough is a lot better. And no, I'm not dumb enough to get tested. But... tonight, my cough is almost gone. I only feel a little bit sick.

Completely anecdotal, but I felt a lot better about 4 hours taking my first dose of Ivermectin and damn near feel normal after my second.

And then again it all could be the pseudo effect


Awesome! Ivermectin works again.
Picadillo
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On the Pfizer payroll = no conflict of interest

Prescribed ivermectin for covid treatment = conflict of interest

Guardian Angel
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Ivermectin and HCQ always worked

Bankrupt FTX Gave $18.2M to Early COVID-19 Researchers Who Cast Doubt on Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine

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Samuel Bankman-Fried's bankrupt and scandal-plagued cryptocurrency empire gave $18.25 million to early COVID-19 researchers whose findings cast doubt on the benefits of ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine for patients with COVID-19.
The FTX Foundation provided initial funding worth $3.25 million and followed it with another $15 million grant, according to a press release issued May 16.
"The FTX Foundation is excited to commit $15 million to funding additional trial arms in the TOGETHER Trial and its growing global network of sister trials," said Ross Rheingans-Yoo, from the FTX Foundation.
"Our initial $3.25 million grant to expand the trial network's core infrastructure has helped bring the model from Brazil to key sites across the globe, and we look forward to finding further opportunities to support the consortium's growth and help prevent future pandemics," he said.
Together Trial's research included a study that found ivermectin's benefits for patients suffering from COVID-19 were unclear and a study that concluded hydroxychloroquine did not show any benefit in decreasing hospitalizations. Both studies were influential amid debates over the use of conventional, inexpensive treatments as opposed to expensive mRNA injections developed by the large pharmaceutical companies, like Pfizer, Moderna, and Johnson & Johnson.

Both drugs were floated early in the pandemic as potential treatments for those suffering from the virus, but they quickly became politically polarizing when they received support from President Donald Trump and podcaster Joe Rogan. Mainstream physicians and the media raced to discredit the cheap, safe drugs that have been used for decades for a host of other diseases. Both of these studies were led by Dr. Gilmar Reis.


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