Booster kicking my butt

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So far so good. Trouble sleeping last night due to arm discomfort. All things sort of achy today. Lack of energy. Otherwise nothing big. Glad I did a Friday afternoon since it might be hard to get the energy level up as high as it needs to be to teach 17 year olds.






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Now fever and chills. Headache. I will be glad to get past this.
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I hope you feel better quickly.
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Better today...about a degree of fever that will break with a sweat and then come back, and just feel spent. But definately better than yesterday. Suspect by this evening I will be back to normal.
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Thanks for the update. Glad you're beginning to feel better!
Do you know if you received the reduced dose Moderna or full-strength? I think you said you received Moderna.
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Arlington fire said it was the half dose.
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Good to know! I wasn't sure whether that was available yet. I need to look into this.
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oldflyer said:


In 1905, the issue of vaccine mandates reached the Supreme Court in the case of Jacobson v. Massachusetts. The case involved Henning Jacobson, a Lutheran pastor in Cambridge, Mass., who defied a city ordinance requiring smallpox vaccinations during an outbreak. Those who resisted faced a $5 fine, which he refused to pay.

Jacobson insisted that "healthy and law-abiding" people like himself posed a minimal danger to the community. Even if his refusal to be vaccinated led to him spreading the smallpox virus, he argued, the only possible victims would be others "who failed or refused to be vaccinated." Scientists have repeatedly refuted this idea, explaining that many people can't be vaccinated because they are immunocompromised or allergic to the vaccine's contents, and that the safety of the community depends upon a high level of vaccinationor herd immunityto keep infectious diseases from spreading. But it remains a staple of current anti-vaccine thinking, as does Jacobson's contention that the decision to vaccinate belongs to the individual, not to the state or medical authorities.

The Supreme Court disagreed. The majority opinion, written by Justice John Marshall Harlan, asserted that "the liberty secured by the Constitution does not import an absolute right in each person to be at all times, and in all circumstances, wholly freed from restraint." Quite the contrary. The Constitution rests upon "the fundamental principle of the social compact…that all shall be governed by certain laws for the protection, safety, prosperity and happiness of the people, and not for the profit, honor or private interests of any one man, family or class of men." Jacobson had not only broken the law, the court suggested; he had violated the principle upon which a well-ordered society depends.

At the same time, Justice Harlan attempted to impose a truce between the warring camps. He acknowledged the need for medical exemptions, writing that "we are not inclined to [uphold] the absolute rule that an adult must be vaccinated if it can be shown with reasonable certainty that [it] will seriously impair his health." And he warned that vaccine mandates must not be implemented in "an arbitrary, unreasonable manner." Only a public health emergency, as defined by the state legislature in consultation with medical experts, appeared to justify their use.

This is pretty amazing. Switch a couple of name and dates and it would reflect 2021 almost exactly.

Guess it's true the more things change the more they stay the same.
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That's an absolute mischaracterization..

I'm vaccinated and believe it still belongs to the individual.

Extremist language labels dont help discourse.
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oldflyer said:

fullback44 said:


.. it's your choice .. vaccines and medicines have always been a choice and that should never change
That would be an inaccurate statement.

This is from an article in the WSJ about the history of vaccine mandates. Pertinent because the case quoted set precedence which is still in force today. Note that almost all lawsuits against Covid-19 vaccine mandates are being struck down by the courts. This is the reason why...

In 1905, the issue of vaccine mandates reached the Supreme Court in the case of Jacobson v. Massachusetts. The case involved Henning Jacobson, a Lutheran pastor in Cambridge, Mass., who defied a city ordinance requiring smallpox vaccinations during an outbreak. Those who resisted faced a $5 fine, which he refused to pay.


A respected community leader, Jacobson aired grievances that resonated well beyond the courtroom. He claimed that the vaccine was dangerous, which wasn't an unreasonable stance in an era before vaccines were regulated by the federal government. The smallpox vaccine caused serious adverse reactions in some cases and failed to work in others. Today's vaccines are carefully purified to prevent bacterial contamination; in Jacobson's time, with handwashing and cleansing additives more-or-less optional, vaccines sometimes carried the germs that caused tetanus, syphilis and other diseases.

Jacobson insisted that "healthy and law-abiding" people like himself posed a minimal danger to the community. Even if his refusal to be vaccinated led to him spreading the smallpox virus, he argued, the only possible victims would be others "who failed or refused to be vaccinated." Scientists have repeatedly refuted this idea, explaining that many people can't be vaccinated because they are immunocompromised or allergic to the vaccine's contents, and that the safety of the community depends upon a high level of vaccinationor herd immunityto keep infectious diseases from spreading. But it remains a staple of current anti-vaccine thinking, as does Jacobson's contention that the decision to vaccinate belongs to the individual, not to the state or medical authorities.

The Supreme Court disagreed. The majority opinion, written by Justice John Marshall Harlan, asserted that "the liberty secured by the Constitution does not import an absolute right in each person to be at all times, and in all circumstances, wholly freed from restraint." Quite the contrary. The Constitution rests upon "the fundamental principle of the social compact…that all shall be governed by certain laws for the protection, safety, prosperity and happiness of the people, and not for the profit, honor or private interests of any one man, family or class of men." Jacobson had not only broken the law, the court suggested; he had violated the principle upon which a well-ordered society depends.

At the same time, Justice Harlan attempted to impose a truce between the warring camps. He acknowledged the need for medical exemptions, writing that "we are not inclined to [uphold] the absolute rule that an adult must be vaccinated if it can be shown with reasonable certainty that [it] will seriously impair his health." And he warned that vaccine mandates must not be implemented in "an arbitrary, unreasonable manner." Only a public health emergency, as defined by the state legislature in consultation with medical experts, appeared to justify their use.

Justice Harlan's opinion has been the go-to authority on the subject ever since. In 1922, the Supreme Court upheld an ordinance in San Antonio, Texas, requiring proof of smallpox vaccination for people entering "public schools or other places of education," using Jacobson as precedent. The fact that San Antonio was not then facing a public health emergency no longer mattered; almost every public health mandate was now defensible. Five years later, in the notorious case of Buck v. Bell, the Court upheld Virginia's policy of sterilizing women deemed unfit to bear children, also using Jacobson as precedent. "The principle that sustains compulsory vaccination," wrote Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr., "is broad enough to cover cutting the Fallopian tubes."


Don't give 2 dams about that.. they have not made this a law and there's probably a reason behind that?
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My pronouns are AFUERA/AHORA!
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I'm canceling my Moderna booster appt…I'm not in any vulnerable group and my doc just said "it's a good idea and it's been 6 months" …that hardly seems convincing.
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I had the J and J vaccine and got the Moderna boost Wednesday. The next day I had a slightly elevated temperature, was sleepy all day long, and felt what I call "wonky." I'm totally fine now.
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Got the moderna booster at 1145am on Tuesday. 22 hours later and I'm aches and low fever.

My second moderna shot did a number on me for 48 hours. Fever chills aches etc.
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wife got the moderna booster on Sunday afternoon. She felt crappy for half a day and was back to being a total nag soon after.
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Wife and I got the J&J booster yesterday at 1:00. Neither of us had any ill effects from our 1st shot other than a lingering sore arm for about 2 weeks. Last night she got hit with fever and severe chills, woke up feeling better and went to work but is home now nauseous, headache, feeling terrible. I am extremely tired/run down, sore joints, but otherwise ok. I also got my flu shot at the same time and that may compounding things.
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Now almost 48 hours later and I am almost back to normal. Light fever. Aches. Now it's about gone. Did pop some ibuprofen last night.
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Got the booster Moderna booster yesterday about 1:15. Nothing until about 10 PM, sore arm kicked in. Dozed off on the couch, woke up about 12:30 AM with mild chills. Went to bed with the chills, but fell asleep easily enough. Went to work today, and was fairly groggy but workable. About 5:30 everything cleared up.
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Back to 100% normal
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Got my Pfizer booster yesterday.

Woke up 16 hours later freezing. Could not get warm. Did not get out of bed. I mean, I was really freezing. Eventually got up 4 hours later to feed my incredibly patient dog. Took aspirin, and that seemed to really help. Threw up once.

4 hours later the chills came back. More aspirin. Helped.

So I'm 28 hours into this. Hoping the freezing chills don't return. Headache pretty much gone. Sore arm - moderate pain. Feel like a truck ran me over.

I wonder if a shot of bourbon will help ;-)

This is definitely worse for me versus shot #2 of the original vaccine - which was really bad.

I also got my flu shot yesterday.

Chicken soup on the menu. Haven't really eaten today.
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How weird that some of y'all have reacted the way y'all have. My booster was as bad as my second shot. Mostly the headache was bad for two days. Other than that, I was fine.
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My booster just gave me a sore shoulder and made me slightly tired the next day.
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How weird that some of y'all have reacted the way y'all have.
It's because we are old guys and have worn out bodies. Living life in the fast lane takes its toll.
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Received the Moderna booster at HEB yesterday around 2 pm and so far, so good - just a little swelling at the shot site.
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agz win said:

Received the Moderna booster at HEB yesterday around 2 pm and so far, so good - just a little swelling at the shot site.
That seems totally normal.
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Pinche Abogado said:

agz win said:

Received the Moderna booster at HEB yesterday around 2 pm and so far, so good - just a little swelling at the shot site.
That seems totally normal.
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You've never had swelling when getting a shot?

We all know where you stand when it comes to COVID. I'm not sure why you and aggierouge are trolling this thread
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Moderna booster yesterday at 2:30pm. Woke up this morning with a slight fever 99.9. Still have a slight fever this afternoon, but nothing of concern so far.
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I don't think it is a good idea to get the flu shot and Covid booster at the same time. The only people I've known who felt really bad afterwards had gotten them both on the same day.

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Got the Moderna booster yesterday. Shot site is pretty sore, but no other issues. Same with my wife.
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Wife and I got Moderna booster yesterday. We both had miserable nights, she had a headache and chills. My heart was racing all night and had trouble sleeping. My resting heart rate was about 20 bpm higher than normal. 24 hours after the shot I felt better. Arm is still sore but no other ill effects.
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After much prodding from my PCP, I got the booster…it was one hell of a day and night…fine after that.

2 regular shots and one booster. That's it…I'm done!
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Captain, did you have reactions from the original vaccinations as well or just the booster?
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Moderna booster yesterday around 7pm. Second dose in February took me down pretty good for about 24 hours so I was expecting another round but so far just the slightly sore arm. I know the Moderna booster is a reduced dose but a little surprising to have no effects this time through (so far).

I did opt out of doing the flu shot at the same time which was probably unnecessary in hindsight but will do that one in the next week or so.
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Got Pfizer booster on Monday and not a damn reaction. Didn't have a reaction to the first 2
 
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