You are overweight which is a risk factor for a bad outcome, get the vaccine.

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If you could go back in time, would you get the vaccine?

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With all the BS that this has put myself and my family through over the past month, I would say yes. Hell, even my wife went and got her first shot due to what happened to me.

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Almost every doctor in the country has not only gotten the vaccine for themselves, but rushed to get it for their family. Many I know are waiting for approval to get it for their kids (this includes pediatricians, pediatric emergency medicine docs, and a host of other specialists). If just about every medical professional in the country thinks it is safe and effective for themselves and their family, chances are you're not taking any undue risk by getting the vaccine - especially when weighed against the very real possibility of a long term side effect from the actual virus.

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Ditto. I am an aerospace engineer. I realize that the pros are the people who really know what they're talking about. And their actions speak louder than words.

100% of the physicians my wife works with got the vaccine. 100% of their spouses and children who can got the vaccine. 100% of their younger children will get the vaccine ASAP after it is approved.

As stated above, consider the Moderna vaccine as it seems to have the best resistance to the variants.

dubi said:

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I'll say you should do it for your 3 year old. D is kicking ass and apparently healthy folks are running the risk of hospitalization and long term effects of Covid.

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This is exactly what I was going to say.

My wife in I are in the same exact boat as OP. Early 30s, very rarely get sick, healthy, good weight, etc. Have a 3 and 4 year old at home.

If I didn't have kids depending on me it would be a completely different decision but I'm not about to put that burden on someone else if I get really sick or heaven forbid pass away from covid (when a vaccine is readily available.

Also the thought of my children growing up fatherless because I passed on a safe and effective vaccine makes me sick to my stomach.

I also dropped 40 pounds since covid started and got in much better shape to improve my outcome, prior to the vaccine being available

Get Off My Lawn said:

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For every near-death anecdote there are tons of lesser cases. My Covid experience was a week-long headache & some lesser symptoms.

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My post stating this was deleted. For every bad case you hear about, there are literally thousands of cases that are mild or where the person is sick for a few days and then back to feeling normal. I think the medical community is a bit jaded because they see it at it's worst and are unable disconnect work from reality, where majority of people are fine.

He means so he will be there for his child, not to protect the child from Covid.

Statistically speaking, you're pretty safe either way so don't stress about it.

Educate yourself by reading data (not the covid/politics board of TexAgs)

Talk to a doctor you trust.

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dubi said:

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I'll say you should do it for your 3 year old. D is kicking ass and apparently healthy folks are running the risk of hospitalization and long term effects of Covid.

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This is exactly what I was going to say.

My wife in I are in the same exact boat as OP. Early 30s, very rarely get sick, healthy, good weight, etc. Have a 3 and 4 year old at home.

If I didn't have kids depending on me it would be a completely different decision but I'm not about to put that burden on someone else if I get really sick or heaven forbid pass away from covid (when a vaccine is readily available.

Also the thought of my children growing up fatherless because I passed on a safe and effective vaccine makes me sick to my stomach.

I also dropped 40 pounds since covid started and got in much better shape to improve my outcome, prior to the vaccine being available

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sorry, but I don't see how adults getting these vaccines protect their children from a variant that's leaking around them like a sieve, and also doesn't statistically pose a threat to children in the first place...

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What you need to be sorry about is your lack of reading comprehension...

Jbob04 said:

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I was originally against getting it too, thinking once I got the virus, it would be a mild case. With this current strain, I was wrong. Ended up with Covid pneumonia and spent a week in the hospital. I've been out for two weeks but probably have another couple months to fully heal my lungs. It's really hitting healthy people this year, unlike the original strain. I know the vaccine won't keep you from getting it but will most likely keep you out of the hospital. Don't gamble like I did OP, it isn't worth it.

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This was my story, in fact Jbob and I were in the same hospital at the same time. Although I was in for longer. I was in from August 16-September 2. I would have much rather just gotten the vaccine.

On the other end of the spectrum, my 86-year-old father tested positive 2 weeks ago, and he's already over it. He was fully vaccinated.

It is certainly your choice, and I am still against mandates, but I am recommending the shot to everyone. COVID kicked my behind.

Rex,
Glad to hear your Dad fully recovered without any complications. Great news!

Husband and I are both in the health care field and both received the vaccine. No issues at all. We are in our 50's and both normal weight and active. I would rather "take a chance" with the vaccine rather than "take a chance" with covid.

100% agree, we followed the data. Our health and age put us at extremely low risk. So we decided against the risk of the vaccine. However, we pushed our parents to get vaccinated due to their health/age.

So just my 2 cents as a parent who as done a lot of reading but has no medical credentials at all:

• First, I would pose that you have perhaps created a false dichotomy in your decision. There is the concern about possible fertility issues, which, without getting into whether or not that is likely/possible, with how the vaccines work (creating the spike protein in your body in a controlled manner), logically, any side effect of concern from the shot, could likely be of equal or greater concern from the virus. So if the shot could cause fertility issues, why in your mind isn't the virus just as likely or more likely to cause that same issue?
• Second, I just watched one of my daughter's classmates miss a chunk of the beginning of school because her dad was hospitalized and unconscious with covid pneumonia. He is similar to me (young 30s, low 20s BMI), and seemingly narrowly dodged not leaving the hospital. He is out now but with "significant lung damage". I realize this is emotional thinking, but I can't imagine not being there for my kids because i didn't do everything i could. While it is definitely emotional, the rational question is, do you actually believe the risk of infertility is high enough to justify the risk of being hospitalized or dying from the virus, because that is what the choice of not getting vaccinated would indicate. I'm not saying you should or should not feel that way because we all have to decide which risks we can tolerate and which ones we can't, just that its important to think through if you rationally believe the things your choices say you do.
• Finally, and caveat this one includes my personal conclusions, I personally don't see a case being made for fertility issues being a real concern at this point. Sure, the data is short lived and so technically there could be lots of unknowns, but the problem here is that i have not seen any data presented showing it having happened, and we are far enough into testing and distribution that it should be emerging by now if it was there (at this point something like 36MM women ages 18-49 have been fully vaccinated). There have been stories about menstrual cycles being thrown off, but i haven't seen any data of lasting fertility problems, and a high fever or viral infection can also throw off a menstrual cycle for a bit, so that by itself really isn't necessarily a concern. And even in the absence of data, i haven't seen any credible sources present a theoretical mechanism for the vaccine leading to fertility problems.

Just my thoughts since you asked for input from others. hopefully its worth slightly more than you paid for it

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I'm also 31, in your same boat. My wife is 30. We both got COVID. Was very mild. We are happy we never got vaccinated. Now we have the antibodies etc. However, we are very supportive of vaccinations where it makes sense.

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This is what most people on this particular board seem to not be able to grasp. There is not a "one size fits all" solution to this (like most other things health related), and how the vaccine should be used is no different.

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I think this is a totally unfair characterization of "this particular board."

Most of us are not for mandates, and do believe in some level of natural immunity from infection.

It's true that most people here support vaccines, but most of us just want good information and good reasoning, not name calling and petty, childish attacks. The only time I see things turn ugly is when someone from f16 wants to come over here and "educate" us all with stuff that's been debunked long ago, but even then it's usually the f16 person who gets ugly first, not the ones who think vaccines work well and are worth getting.


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redcrayon said:

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First, this is F84.

Second, a doctor on here told unvaccinated people not to go to the ER if they get sick. It doesn't get uglier than that.

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First, thanks. I fixed it.

Second, My issue is painting an entire forum with one broad brush. I think, on politics as well as here, there are a variety of opinions and it is neither true nor helpful to blame them all for the opinions of a few.

I will add, though, that (not knowing the context) if that doctor said that, he or she was probably venting frustration at people who vilify doctors for "pushing poison" (I've seen people call the vaccine that) and felt like saying that if you don't trust doctors advice then why would you trust their care.

I also feel like I can cut some of these doctors that post here some slack. They're working very hard in very difficult situations. It's been hard. I can give them some grace if they vent some frustration on a message board once in a while.

I'm sure, though, that if that doctor actually was presented with an unvaccinated patient he or she would do all they could to save the person. It's just frustrating to see people sick and dying unnecessarily.


I guess what I'm saying is - when I read both forums I see a lot more unreasonable ugliness over there on Covid disagreement than over here, and politically I align with the majority of f16 on almost everything.

GeographyAg said:

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redcrayon said:

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First, this is F84.

Second, a doctor on here told unvaccinated people not to go to the ER if they get sick. It doesn't get uglier than that.

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First, thanks. I fixed it.

Second, My issue is painting an entire forum with one broad brush. I think, on politics as well as here, there are a variety of opinions and it is neither true nor helpful to blame them all for the opinions of a few.

I will add, though, that (not knowing the context) if that doctor said that, he or she was probably venting frustration at people who vilify doctors for "pushing poison" (I've seen people call the vaccine that) and felt like saying that if you don't trust doctors advice then why would you trust their care.

I also feel like I can cut some of these doctors that post here some slack. They're working very hard in very difficult situations. It's been hard. I can give them some grace if they vent some frustration on a message board once in a while.

I'm sure, though, that if that doctor actually was presented with an unvaccinated patient he or she would do all they could to save the person. It's just frustrating to see people sick and dying unnecessarily.


I guess what I'm saying is - when I read both forums I see a lot more unreasonable ugliness over there on Covid disagreement than over here, and politically I align with the majority of f16 on almost everything.

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People are fed up with government overreach over this entire COVID situation. I can give them some grace if they vent some frustration on a message board once in a while.