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Called doctor yesterday to ask about treatment if I get Covid. He said they would give me Ivermectin, some nasal inhaler I forgot the name of, and some other things. He's treated hundreds of patients already.

Family members in CC got Covid. Spohn hospital treated with Ivermectin.

Some of you act like no one is prescribing it.

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Aston94 said:

I think the point is that the vaccine is much more well tested and FDA approved for use against the virus, and people are refusing to take it but are happy to seek out an off label use of a drug intended for livestock.

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texagbeliever said:

The vaccine is so well tested that the story has gone from:

• 100% immunity no cases, no hospitalizations, no deaths
• No hospitalizations & no deaths
• Okay less severe cases versus individuals who haven't yet had covid
• Well now you need a booster every 4 months & pills every day (pfizer)

So yeah its almost as if the vaccine wasn't that well tested or we were flat out lied to. Your pick.

*Note a vaccine still makes sense for individuals with certain comorbidities. However, pushing for a treatment when sick is just being rational.

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Well in a single thread alone, Rex, Jbob, and Curry took Ivermectin (Jbob and Curry on day 2) and are still in the ICU. Rex is finally going home today, after being in the hospital for 2 and a half weeks.

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Well in a single thread alone, Rex, Jbob, and Curry took Ivermectin (Jbob and Curry on day 2) and are still in the ICU. Rex is finally going home today, after being in the hospital for 2 and a half weeks.

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Mostly Peaceful said:

Okay, so 2? I honestly don't know and would like to know if there really are many here who have ended up in the ICU after taking ivermectin.

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Well in a single thread alone, Rex, Jbob, and Curry took Ivermectin (Jbob and Curry on day 2) and are still in the ICU. Rex is finally going home today, after being in the hospital for 2 and a half weeks.

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Mostly Peaceful said:

Okay, so 2? I honestly don't know and would like to know if there really are many here who have ended up in the ICU after taking ivermectin.

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GeographyAg said:

That's three.

1. Rex
2. JBob
3. Curry

All three took Ivermectin and all three are currently in the hospital. (Though Rex is going home today.)

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As geography ag said, that's 3. And that's just that I've seen. I don't click every thread about people testing positive, this one just caught my eye so I was following it. And that's 3 at this current moment in time.

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Called doctor yesterday to ask about treatment if I get Covid. He said they would give me Ivermectin, some nasal inhaler I forgot the name of, and some other things. He's treated hundreds of patients already.

Family members in CC got Covid. Spohn hospital treated with Ivermectin.

Some of you act like no one is prescribing it.

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Aston94 said:

I think the point is that the vaccine is much more well tested and FDA approved for use against the virus, and people are refusing to take it but are happy to seek out an off label use of a drug intended for livestock.

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Wakesurfer817 said:

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Does your freedom to use an ineffective drug trump my freedom to have access to ER's and ICU's?

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htxag09 said:

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Yep. People are just so dug in and try to be so darn difficult.

I mean that's 3 posters on one thread who are in the icu. All 3 chose not to get the vaccine because they didn't think covid was a threat to them. All 3 took ivermectin. All three are in icu. If that doesn't sway you one way than don't know what will.

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TheMasterplan said:

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The traditional media types are so scared of Joe Rogan they gotta make **** up about Ivermectin.

That is a great tweet from Scott Adams.

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Does your freedom to use an ineffective drug trump my freedom to have access to ER's and ICU's?

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Called doctor yesterday to ask about treatment if I get Covid. He said they would give me Ivermectin, some nasal inhaler I forgot the name of, and some other things. He's treated hundreds of patients already.

Family members in CC got Covid. Spohn hospital treated with Ivermectin.

Some of you act like no one is prescribing it.

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Aston94 said:

I think the point is that the vaccine is much more well tested and FDA approved for use against the virus, and people are refusing to take it but are happy to seek out an off label use of a drug intended for livestock.

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texagbeliever said:

The vaccine is so well tested that the story has gone from:

• 100% immunity no cases, no hospitalizations, no deaths
• No hospitalizations & no deaths
• Okay less severe cases versus individuals who haven't yet had covid
• Well now you need a booster every 4 months & pills every day (pfizer)

So yeah its almost as if the vaccine wasn't that well tested or we were flat out lied to. Your pick.

*Note a vaccine still makes sense for individuals with certain comorbidities. However, pushing for a treatment when sick is just being rational.

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Called doctor yesterday to ask about treatment if I get Covid. He said they would give me Ivermectin, some nasal inhaler I forgot the name of, and some other things. He's treated hundreds of patients already.

Family members in CC got Covid. Spohn hospital treated with Ivermectin.

Some of you act like no one is prescribing it.

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Aston94 said:

I think the point is that the vaccine is much more well tested and FDA approved for use against the virus, and people are refusing to take it but are happy to seek out an off label use of a drug intended for livestock.

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aggierogue said:

Good grief. Ivermectin has been a treatment for people as well long before Covid. Why is this so hard to comprehend?

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at this point, for some folks nothing short of being personally admitted to the ICU will be enough

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at this point, for some folks nothing short of being personally admitted to the ICU will be enough

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Duncan Idaho said:

Even then. There is a prominent 16chan poster that spent weeks in the hospital and as recently as last week was still trying to get an ivermectin script filled as a PrEP. a few weeks before he was still spreading lies about the vaccine changing your DNA.

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Yep. People are just so dug in and try to be so darn difficult.

I mean that's 3 posters on one thread who are in the icu. All 3 chose not to get the vaccine because they didn't think covid was a threat to them. All 3 took ivermectin. All three are in icu. If that doesn't sway you one way than don't know what will.

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Cassius said:

3 data points always wins.

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htxag09 said:

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lol, COVID has minor effects for the vast majority of people who get it. This site can't have it both ways, COVID is just the sniffles! See, this guy/gal took ivermectin and they had a minor case! It works!

FWIW, many people from this site have been or are currently in the ICU. Many of those have taken ivermectin. I can throw out anecdotes as well.

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Ivermectin might be low risk, depending on the dosage, but at this point the data do not show that it works. The most recent meta-analysis in the literature covered 14 studies and found no effect. One of the big trials with like 1500 people had to be stopped because it wasn't showing any effect. It might be similar to placebo. It also might increase mortality rate. It isn't clear yet.

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Well in a single thread alone, Rex, Jbob, and Curry took Ivermectin (Jbob and Curry on day 2) and are still in the ICU. Rex is finally going home today, after being in the hospital for 2 and a half weeks.

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Mostly Peaceful said:

Okay, so 2? I honestly don't know and would like to know if there really are many here who have ended up in the ICU after taking ivermectin.

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GeographyAg said:

That's three.

1. Rex
2. JBob
3. Curry

All three took Ivermectin and all three are currently in the hospital. (Though Rex is going home today.)

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Mostly Peaceful said:

I believe the consensus is that Ivermectin is only beneficial when taken within the first few days.

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DadHammer said:

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Why do you even care if some take ivermectin or HCQ?

Just stop telling others what to do. It's not your place.

Good grief you people. Amazing busy bodies.

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htxag09 said:

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Yep. People are just so dug in and try to be so darn difficult.

I mean that's 3 posters on one thread who are in the icu. All 3 chose not to get the vaccine because they didn't think covid was a threat to them. All 3 took ivermectin. All three are in icu. If that doesn't sway you one way than don't know what will.

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coolerguy12 said:

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Side effect of ivermectin is nothing?
Side effect of abortion is actively ending a human life. You know it's a terrible analogy but went with it anyway.

I would argue that if the doctor in good faith felt the requested treatment would cause harm then they should remove themself from the case and get another doctor assigned. I don't think that can be said for ivermectin.

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bigtruckguy3500 said:

There is harm to everything, even placebo. In this case the biggest potential harm is that millions of people think an antiparasitic drug will save them if they get COVID, and they're avoiding vaccination because of it. I'm not going to spell out all the potential consequences of that, but it's greater than the individual.

If a doctor doesn't want to perform an abortion should they be the ones finding another doctor to perform it? If a patient wants me to help them find someone to give them an abortion, I'm going to tell them to Google it themselves.

If this patient wanted ivermectin so bad, he should have found himself a doctor. We do not need judges telling doctors how to practice medicine.


ETA: if something truly has zero harm/risk/side effects, it would be pretty rare for it to have benefit. Something's do have a very favorable NNT and NNH ratio, but nothing with benefit is with zero risk.

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aggierogue said:

Advil or Tylenol has very good benefit for headaches/body pain with little to no side effect when used properly.

Ivermectin is not the reason I'm not getting vaccinated. I didn't even ask my doctor about Ivermectin. He told me it is one of the drugs he prescribes. Many are prescribing it.

It's pretty obvious at this point that there is a campaign effort and a political effort to minimize or nullify a benefit to Ivermectin. The fact that the popular and consistent narrative is "horse dewormer" or "animal drugs" should be an easy tell.

Exhibit A:

Popular 54 year old podcaster (unvaccinated) takes Ivermectin (among several other things) and recovers after a single day of bad Covid symptoms.
https://www.instagram.com/tv/CTSsA8wAR2-/?utm_medium=copy_link

Response:
CNN only focuses on Ivermectin and completely omits his quick recovery.


Oh, and he didn't take up a hospital bed.

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traxter said:

Doctors and scientists have been advising against the use of multiple drugs for quite some time. They have advised against ivermectin use as well for quite some time. But suddenly, in the midst of a surge of people taking veterinary ivermectin from animal feed stores, using the term "horse dewormer" becomes part of some sort of political narrative to nullify its benefits?

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coolerguy12 said:

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Side effect of ivermectin is nothing?
Side effect of abortion is actively ending a human life. You know it's a terrible analogy but went with it anyway.

I would argue that if the doctor in good faith felt the requested treatment would cause harm then they should remove themself from the case and get another doctor assigned. I don't think that can be said for ivermectin.

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bigtruckguy3500 said:

There is harm to everything, even placebo. In this case the biggest potential harm is that millions of people think an antiparasitic drug will save them if they get COVID, and they're avoiding vaccination because of it. I'm not going to spell out all the potential consequences of that, but it's greater than the individual.

If a doctor doesn't want to perform an abortion should they be the ones finding another doctor to perform it? If a patient wants me to help them find someone to give them an abortion, I'm going to tell them to Google it themselves.

If this patient wanted ivermectin so bad, he should have found himself a doctor. We do not need judges telling doctors how to practice medicine.


ETA: if something truly has zero harm/risk/side effects, it would be pretty rare for it to have benefit. Something's do have a very favorable NNT and NNH ratio, but nothing with benefit is with zero risk.

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aggierogue said:

Advil or Tylenol has very good benefit for headaches/body pain with little to no side effect when used properly.

Ivermectin is not the reason I'm not getting vaccinated. I didn't even ask my doctor about Ivermectin. He told me it is one of the drugs he prescribes. Many are prescribing it.

It's pretty obvious at this point that there is a campaign effort and a political effort to minimize or nullify a benefit to Ivermectin. The fact that the popular and consistent narrative is "horse dewormer" or "animal drugs" should be an easy tell.

Exhibit A:

Popular 54 year old podcaster (unvaccinated) takes Ivermectin (among several other things) and recovers after a single day of bad Covid symptoms.
https://www.instagram.com/tv/CTSsA8wAR2-/?utm_medium=copy_link

Response:
CNN only focuses on Ivermectin and completely omits his quick recovery.


Oh, and he didn't take up a hospital bed.

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traxter said:

Doctors and scientists have been advising against the use of multiple drugs for quite some time. They have advised against ivermectin use as well for quite some time. But suddenly, in the midst of a surge of people taking veterinary ivermectin from animal feed stores, using the term "horse dewormer" becomes part of some sort of political narrative to nullify its benefits?

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CondensedFoggyAggie said:

It literally IS horse dewormer. Or would you prefer "river blindness and intestinal roundworm infection" treatment?

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coolerguy12 said:

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Side effect of ivermectin is nothing?
Side effect of abortion is actively ending a human life. You know it's a terrible analogy but went with it anyway.

I would argue that if the doctor in good faith felt the requested treatment would cause harm then they should remove themself from the case and get another doctor assigned. I don't think that can be said for ivermectin.

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bigtruckguy3500 said:

There is harm to everything, even placebo. In this case the biggest potential harm is that millions of people think an antiparasitic drug will save them if they get COVID, and they're avoiding vaccination because of it. I'm not going to spell out all the potential consequences of that, but it's greater than the individual.

If a doctor doesn't want to perform an abortion should they be the ones finding another doctor to perform it? If a patient wants me to help them find someone to give them an abortion, I'm going to tell them to Google it themselves.

If this patient wanted ivermectin so bad, he should have found himself a doctor. We do not need judges telling doctors how to practice medicine.


ETA: if something truly has zero harm/risk/side effects, it would be pretty rare for it to have benefit. Something's do have a very favorable NNT and NNH ratio, but nothing with benefit is with zero risk.

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aggierogue said:

Advil or Tylenol has very good benefit for headaches/body pain with little to no side effect when used properly.

Ivermectin is not the reason I'm not getting vaccinated. I didn't even ask my doctor about Ivermectin. He told me it is one of the drugs he prescribes. Many are prescribing it.

It's pretty obvious at this point that there is a campaign effort and a political effort to minimize or nullify a benefit to Ivermectin. The fact that the popular and consistent narrative is "horse dewormer" or "animal drugs" should be an easy tell.

Exhibit A:

Popular 54 year old podcaster (unvaccinated) takes Ivermectin (among several other things) and recovers after a single day of bad Covid symptoms.
https://www.instagram.com/tv/CTSsA8wAR2-/?utm_medium=copy_link

Response:
CNN only focuses on Ivermectin and completely omits his quick recovery.


Oh, and he didn't take up a hospital bed.

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traxter said:

Doctors and scientists have been advising against the use of multiple drugs for quite some time. They have advised against ivermectin use as well for quite some time. But suddenly, in the midst of a surge of people taking veterinary ivermectin from animal feed stores, using the term "horse dewormer" becomes part of some sort of political narrative to nullify its benefits?

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CondensedFoggyAggie said:

It literally IS horse dewormer. Or would you prefer "river blindness and intestinal roundworm infection" treatment?

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TheMasterplan said:

We all know why the headline is what it is. It is also used for humans but it's more fun to use horsewormer so those on the political left can say, "LOL Trump supporters." That's why people don't trust the media and don't trust experts. Stop being political.

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DadHammer said:

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Why do you even care if some take ivermectin or HCQ?

Just stop telling others what to do. It's not your place.

Good grief you people. Amazing busy bodies.

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Yep. People are just so dug in and try to be so darn difficult.

I mean that's 3 posters on one thread who are in the icu. All 3 chose not to get the vaccine because they didn't think covid was a threat to them. All 3 took ivermectin. All three are in icu. If that doesn't sway you one way than don't know what will.

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TarponChaser said:

Point of fact, I don't believe any of those 3 were in the ICU. They were hospitalized but that's different than ICU. I could be wrong but that's what I saw.

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Side effect of ivermectin is nothing?
Side effect of abortion is actively ending a human life. You know it's a terrible analogy but went with it anyway.

I would argue that if the doctor in good faith felt the requested treatment would cause harm then they should remove themself from the case and get another doctor assigned. I don't think that can be said for ivermectin.

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bigtruckguy3500 said:

There is harm to everything, even placebo. In this case the biggest potential harm is that millions of people think an antiparasitic drug will save them if they get COVID, and they're avoiding vaccination because of it. I'm not going to spell out all the potential consequences of that, but it's greater than the individual.

If a doctor doesn't want to perform an abortion should they be the ones finding another doctor to perform it? If a patient wants me to help them find someone to give them an abortion, I'm going to tell them to Google it themselves.

If this patient wanted ivermectin so bad, he should have found himself a doctor. We do not need judges telling doctors how to practice medicine.


ETA: if something truly has zero harm/risk/side effects, it would be pretty rare for it to have benefit. Something's do have a very favorable NNT and NNH ratio, but nothing with benefit is with zero risk.

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aggierogue said:

Advil or Tylenol has very good benefit for headaches/body pain with little to no side effect when used properly.

Ivermectin is not the reason I'm not getting vaccinated. I didn't even ask my doctor about Ivermectin. He told me it is one of the drugs he prescribes. Many are prescribing it.

It's pretty obvious at this point that there is a campaign effort and a political effort to minimize or nullify a benefit to Ivermectin. The fact that the popular and consistent narrative is "horse dewormer" or "animal drugs" should be an easy tell.

Exhibit A:

Popular 54 year old podcaster (unvaccinated) takes Ivermectin (among several other things) and recovers after a single day of bad Covid symptoms.
https://www.instagram.com/tv/CTSsA8wAR2-/?utm_medium=copy_link

Response:
CNN only focuses on Ivermectin and completely omits his quick recovery.


Oh, and he didn't take up a hospital bed.

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traxter said:

Doctors and scientists have been advising against the use of multiple drugs for quite some time. They have advised against ivermectin use as well for quite some time. But suddenly, in the midst of a surge of people taking veterinary ivermectin from animal feed stores, using the term "horse dewormer" becomes part of some sort of political narrative to nullify its benefits?

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CondensedFoggyAggie said:

It literally IS horse dewormer. Or would you prefer "river blindness and intestinal roundworm infection" treatment?

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TheMasterplan said:

We all know why the headline is what it is. It is also used for humans but it's more fun to use horsewormer so those on the political left can say, "LOL Trump supporters." That's why people don't trust the media and don't trust experts. Stop being political.

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CondensedFoggyAggie said:

Actually, it's more like people with common sense that read what the vast majority of doctors say vs unverified horse dewormer.

Welp, when you inevitably move on to whale intestine antibiotics, I'll be sure to tell the media not to make fun of you.

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