30 year man, part of Freedom Rally organizer
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SUag said:
His unfortunate end should be a warning to all with like minded views.
I agree. A virus is not the place to play fake news and science.
Makes me wonder how many of the deaths since say, April or so have been of this nature
https://www.politico.com/states/florida/story/2021/08/29/3rd-conservative-radio-host-who-condemned-vaccines-dies-of-covid-1390555
Sad that a small number of people turn this into something political
Sad that a small number of people turn this into something political
The_Fox said:
He should of gambled with eating less and working out more and he would be fine.
IMO the public health response should have talked more to getting in shape.
IMO many have thr opinion it's all good unless you're talking 5 ft 11 300 lbs
Yep. But we preferred to play the fear game implying that COVID kills indiscriminately. It doesn't.jamey said:The_Fox said:
He should of gambled with eating less and working out more and he would be fine.
IMO the public health response should have talked more to getting in shape.
IMO many have thr opinion it's all good unless you're talking 5 ft 11 300 lbs
Gig'Em and God Bless,
JB'91
JB'91
What an absolutely terrible thing to say. Wow.
I was pretty shocked when I clicked on your profile and saw attorney. Not shocked anymore when I saw you are 91% politics board.
Wow, man, what a horrible thing to say.
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What did he say?
The_Fox said:
He should of gambled with eating less and working out more and he would be fine
You are sick!
Charpie said:
What did he say?
Not sure, but people should be able to say things without being disgusting and insensitive.
With that said the "body positivity" and "fat acceptance" movements need to die after this pandemic. It's just as ignorant as those who refuse the vaccine. People are dying because they aren't taking car of themselves, either with health and fitness or refusing a free safe vaccine.
Charpie said:
What did he say?
Basically that he hopes more fat people don't get the vaccine so that they die.
See there's no place for that. Fat people aren't evil. And they aren't by default "irresponsible and lazy". Eating right and being healthy is hard for me. I slip up. But I know it's not the right way to live and I open myself up to bad health because of it.
We have to stop putting fat people on media and magazines and saying it's okay or normal. It's not and it's now killing people just like not getting vaccinated.
We have to stop putting fat people on media and magazines and saying it's okay or normal. It's not and it's now killing people just like not getting vaccinated.
This deflection would work better if it only took a 30 minute trip to Walgreens to lose weight.
tomtomdrumdrum said:
This deflection would work better if it only took a 30 minute trip to Walgreens to lose weight.
And this "deflection" would work better if I wasn't 1. a huge vaccine supporter and 2. people have known now for 18 months who covid affects and have done little to nothing to get healthier. 18 months is more than enough time for most overweight and obese americans to get healthy.
We act like covid just popped up a few weeks ago and caught the unhealthy by surprise.
Ok maybe you weren't deflecting, but people who want us to stop encouraging the vaccine hesitant make that same argument.
Being overweight and not being vaccinated are not equal failures of personal responsibility. Losing weight is MUCH harder to do than going to get vaccinated. So there is a yes, both, but let's not give unvaccinated people an opportunity to point at others and say "it's their fault" when they have the option to help with so much less effort.
Being overweight and not being vaccinated are not equal failures of personal responsibility. Losing weight is MUCH harder to do than going to get vaccinated. So there is a yes, both, but let's not give unvaccinated people an opportunity to point at others and say "it's their fault" when they have the option to help with so much less effort.
tomtomdrumdrum said:
Ok maybe you weren't deflecting, but people who want us to stop encouraging the vaccine hesitant make that same argument.
Being overweight and not being vaccinated are not equal failures of personal responsibility. Losing weight is MUCH harder to do than going to get vaccinated. So there is a yes, both, but let's not give unvaccinated people an opportunity to point at others and say "it's their fault" when they have the option to help with so much less effort.
I think if this were month 1 I'd agree. But we are 18 months into this and our lives are still being affected by people that refuse to take responsibility for their health and put burdens on hospitals.
This. There are many people that would rather close down society, lock down school children and force them to wear masks than join a running group and shed a few pounds. It wasn't a good excuse last spring, and it's an awful one now.Salute The Marines said:tomtomdrumdrum said:
Ok maybe you weren't deflecting, but people who want us to stop encouraging the vaccine hesitant make that same argument.
Being overweight and not being vaccinated are not equal failures of personal responsibility. Losing weight is MUCH harder to do than going to get vaccinated. So there is a yes, both, but let's not give unvaccinated people an opportunity to point at others and say "it's their fault" when they have the option to help with so much less effort.
I think if this were month 1 I'd agree. But we are 18 months into this and our lives are still being affected by people that refuse to take responsibility for their health and put burdens on hospitals.
" 'People that read with pictures think that it's simply about a mask' - Dana Loesch" - Ban Cow Gas
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Who is closing down society at this point? No one if government is advocating locking anything down. And you know how we can keep things open? Getting the stupid shot.
Over 40 and overweight/mildly obese is a whole lot of folks in this country. Many of whom work out and eat pretty well. I'd be curious to see how many of the "just get in shape" folks are over 40 on this board.
Just wait you young whippersnappers. When you can only throw 1200-1500 calories a day down your pie hole before you put pounds on, we'll see how well you "just take a few pounds off."
Just wait you young whippersnappers. When you can only throw 1200-1500 calories a day down your pie hole before you put pounds on, we'll see how well you "just take a few pounds off."
Charpie said:
Who is closing down society at this point? No one if government is advocating locking anything down. And you know how we can keep things open? Getting the stupid shot.
Fauci was just discussing the need for lockdowns this fall.
Where did you see or hear that? Just an honest question. I tried to find but all the articles were about a month ago when he said no lockdowns.ORAggieFan said:Charpie said:
Who is closing down society at this point? No one if government is advocating locking anything down. And you know how we can keep things open? Getting the stupid shot.
Fauci was just discussing the need for lockdowns this fall.
Really? He said this earlier this month. But keep using that as a talking point.
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/01/fauci-expects-no-new-us-lockdowns-despite-surging-delta-cases.htmlQuote:
"I don't think we're going to see lockdowns," Fauci, who is also director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said on ABC's "This Week."
"I think we have enough of the percentage of people in the country - not enough to crush the outbreak - but I believe enough to not allow us to get into the situation we were in last winter."
" lock down school children and force them to wear masks".
those masks, the horror!!!!
many school are slowly closing on their own due to outbreaks, so these kids can enjoy being free from masks and "lock down" on their parents time/dime.
those masks, the horror!!!!
many school are slowly closing on their own due to outbreaks, so these kids can enjoy being free from masks and "lock down" on their parents time/dime.
That's been his narrative/trope since this thing has started.corndog04 said:Charpie said:
What did he say?
Basically that he hopes more fat people don't get the vaccine so that they die.
Being less fat is absolutely something that should be pushed more as part of the narrative but it takes a LONG time to lose weight in any meaningful/long term way.
It takes 30 minutes to get a vaccine. My issue has always been why not do both?
Pale Rider said:
" lock down school children and force them to wear masks".
those masks, the horror!!!!
many school are slowly closing on their own due to outbreaks, so these kids can enjoy being free from masks and "lock down" on their parents time/dime.
If your school policy is to lockdown or send kids home for close contacts then your school is failing your child.
Charpie said:
Who is closing down society at this point? No one if government is advocating locking anything down. And you know how we can keep things open? Getting the stupid shot.
There are plenty of people that want the government to shut things down or at least implement more restrictions again, and those are the people I'm referring to.
And it's wrong to hold normalcy hostage until people that don't need or want the shot get it. At that point it's about power, and nothing else.
" 'People that read with pictures think that it's simply about a mask' - Dana Loesch" - Ban Cow Gas
"Truth is treason in the empire of lies." - Dr. Ron Paul
Big Tech IS the empire of lies
TEXIT
"Truth is treason in the empire of lies." - Dr. Ron Paul
Big Tech IS the empire of lies
TEXIT
Salute The Marines said:Pale Rider said:
" lock down school children and force them to wear masks".
those masks, the horror!!!!
many school are slowly closing on their own due to outbreaks, so these kids can enjoy being free from masks and "lock down" on their parents time/dime.
If your school policy is to lockdown or send kids home for close contacts then your school is failing your child.
From what I understand schools will also close down temporarily due to flu and flu-like outbreaks, but it's not about safety it's because too many kids being out messes up the learning environment with kids falling behind. But yet another thing that's normal during respiratory virus outbreaks every year is being co-opted to spread fear.
" 'People that read with pictures think that it's simply about a mask' - Dana Loesch" - Ban Cow Gas
"Truth is treason in the empire of lies." - Dr. Ron Paul
Big Tech IS the empire of lies
TEXIT
"Truth is treason in the empire of lies." - Dr. Ron Paul
Big Tech IS the empire of lies
TEXIT
Local hospital has a Covid patient who weighs over 800 pounds, doesn't bode well for a positive outcome.
It's really off topic - well, maybe not 100% off topic - but the topic above about not "celebrating" obesity is a tough one. In general, I agree and we must walk the fine line between not shaming but also not suggesting it is OK. Endless studies show being overweight is a risk factor for many illnesses and a shortened life. It is not healthy. Somehow the societal tone must be "we accept, you are human as we all are, but your weight is a risk and we want the best for you and suggest you should lose weight. If you don't, we still accept and love you, but just know it is a health risk as is smoking, drinking too much, never exercising, etc". Our love of fast food, cheap food, and huge portions isn't doing us any favors. American culture celebrates consumerism, excess of consumption of all kinds.
None of us should need BMI numbers, or really even scales, to know when we are overweight. We can look at our bodies and know how we feel at different weights. Same for physical activity, we know when we aren't getting enough. Weight and exercise are things I am far from perfect in managing all 52 weeks of the year, but I know the risks and have never felt being overweight is good, or being a couch potato is good, from a HEALTH standpoint.
It's really off topic - well, maybe not 100% off topic - but the topic above about not "celebrating" obesity is a tough one. In general, I agree and we must walk the fine line between not shaming but also not suggesting it is OK. Endless studies show being overweight is a risk factor for many illnesses and a shortened life. It is not healthy. Somehow the societal tone must be "we accept, you are human as we all are, but your weight is a risk and we want the best for you and suggest you should lose weight. If you don't, we still accept and love you, but just know it is a health risk as is smoking, drinking too much, never exercising, etc". Our love of fast food, cheap food, and huge portions isn't doing us any favors. American culture celebrates consumerism, excess of consumption of all kinds.
None of us should need BMI numbers, or really even scales, to know when we are overweight. We can look at our bodies and know how we feel at different weights. Same for physical activity, we know when we aren't getting enough. Weight and exercise are things I am far from perfect in managing all 52 weeks of the year, but I know the risks and have never felt being overweight is good, or being a couch potato is good, from a HEALTH standpoint.
waitwhat? said:Charpie said:
Who is closing down society at this point? No one if government is advocating locking anything down. And you know how we can keep things open? Getting the stupid shot.
There are plenty of people that want the government to shut things down or at least implement more restrictions again, and those are the people I'm referring to.
And it's wrong to hold normalcy hostage until people that don't need or want the shot get it. At that point it's about power, and nothing else.
It's clearly about saving lives and reducing the strain on our hospitals.
Who do you think is after power, what does that power look like practically, and do you think they're succeeding? I'm honestly wondering what logic goes into this claim, because on the surface it looks like conspiracy nonsense.
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