My employer (healthcare system) just decided to mandate the vaccine. I received the first Pfizer dose, however, 2-3 weeks after receiving it I had 2 months of documented cardiac PVCs, ER, Cardiology visits etc. I am going to try the medical exemption route to avoid the second dose, not sure what I will do if they deny my exemption. Really don't want to risk more cardiac arrhythmias and overall uneasyness. Thoughts? I am under 40 with no chronic health conditions.
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wsteed311 said:
My employer (healthcare system) just decided to mandate the vaccine. I received the first Pfizer dose, however, 2-3 weeks after receiving it I had 2 months of documented cardiac PVCs, ER, Cardiology visits etc. I am going to try the medical exemption route to avoid the second dose, not sure what I will do if they deny my exemption. Really don't want to risk more cardiac arrhythmias and overall uneasyness. Thoughts? I am under 40 with no chronic health conditions.
Feel free to PM me if you need help. If you are in the metroplex, hospital employees are getting organized to fight.
01agtx said:wsteed311 said:
My employer (healthcare system) just decided to mandate the vaccine. I received the first Pfizer dose, however, 2-3 weeks after receiving it I had 2 months of documented cardiac PVCs, ER, Cardiology visits etc. I am going to try the medical exemption route to avoid the second dose, not sure what I will do if they deny my exemption. Really don't want to risk more cardiac arrhythmias and overall uneasyness. Thoughts? I am under 40 with no chronic health conditions.
Feel free to PM me if you need help. If you are in the metroplex, hospital employees are getting organized to fight.
Houston area. Any insight regarding not wanting to get any more COVID vaccines?
My question is will employers accept unvaccinated employees antibody record showing both the nucleocapsid protein (natural only) and spike (natural/vaccine). If not, why not?
That's where it gets interesting.
That's where it gets interesting.
Agreed thirdcoast. And the opposite can also be asked. How does anyone know if a vaccinated individual developed a protective antibody level? What about older and/or immunocompromised folks that were vaccinated 6+ months ago? They may never have had a decent response or it has started to wane.
I was vaccinated in mid-February, so my 6 month anniversary is soon. Thankfully, I'm enrolled in the Texas Cares study and will have my 6 month antibody level tested next week (had my first blood draw between vax doses). My 3 month level was good so I'm curious if it has started to wane.
I was vaccinated in mid-February, so my 6 month anniversary is soon. Thankfully, I'm enrolled in the Texas Cares study and will have my 6 month antibody level tested next week (had my first blood draw between vax doses). My 3 month level was good so I'm curious if it has started to wane.
Get a new job. Patients are already sick and in a weakened state. They don't need any additional risk of exposure by an unvaccinated healthcare worker. Let's have designated Hospitals, one for unvaccinated patients and workers and the other for vaccinated. I suspect most physicians would be on board as would all vaccinated.
You realize unvaccinated hospital workers would still be wearing masks and protective equipment right? It's not like they'd be walking around in just scrubs. And just because a worker is vaccinated doesn't mean they couldn't pass on the virus just like someone who hasn't had it.
And you realize the chances are slimmer, they exist, but are slimmer that a vaccinated person catches it from another vaccinated person. If you are hospitalized with anything, and not all wards take Covid type pre cautions, you deserve to not be exposed by a health care worker.
Maybe so, but not sure it's something they need to be losing their job over. Especially since every hospital seems to be dealing with staffing issues as it is.
If you're a patient, do you want the vaccinated staff or unvaccinated staff in your non covid room? I don't hang out inside with unvaccinated people even well.
Look, some jobs require a higher level of accountability and that's fair.
Look, some jobs require a higher level of accountability and that's fair.
If I'm vaccinated and they are wearing protective equipment, which all hospital care staff are doing, then I'm not worried. The virus would have to jump a lot of supposedly protective defenses to cause me any real harm. If it does, then it was probably going to happen no matter what. There is a difference between a healthy respect for the risk and an irrational fear of the risk.
The point is not all areas of the Hosptital take the same level of precautions, not all jobs have patient contact yet they do come in contact with those that do. It's an environment it is more then fair to expect vaccines because one persons health effects another and most hospitalized people are already in a weakened condition. This is common sense.
In the hospital right now after the birth of our daughter. Couldn't care less if the staff is vaccinated or not. Would prefer they don't wear masks so we could actually talk to them like normal people but unfortunately that's not going to happen.
The place we're at just mandated vaccines yesterday for staff and our overnight nurse said she knows of a few that will quit over this and they are already short staffed.
The place we're at just mandated vaccines yesterday for staff and our overnight nurse said she knows of a few that will quit over this and they are already short staffed.
I really try to avoid all crazy people, so can you tell me where you work?bay fan said:
If you're a patient, do you want the vaccinated staff or unvaccinated staff in your non covid room? I don't hang out inside with unvaccinated people even well.
Look, some jobs require a higher level of accountability and that's fair.
My friend and colleague refuses to get the vaccine because if's not FDA approved. We have to complete an attestation form stating the dates we received the vaccine or reason for refusal. She selected "religion" and it was approved in less than 24 hours. It's a joke.
So you propose a hospital, specifically for people who were vaccinated, who are presumably sick enough from COVID to be hospitalized, that would only be cared for by vaccinated workers...so that they wouldn't...what, get COVID (the disease that they were both vaccinated against and currently are presenting) again from an unvaccinated worker?bay fan said:
Get a new job. Patients are already sick and in a weakened state. They don't need any additional risk of exposure by an unvaccinated healthcare worker. Let's have designated Hospitals, one for unvaccinated patients and workers and the other for vaccinated. I suspect most physicians would be on board as would all vaccinated.
The statement you made that I was responding to was about patients.bay fan said:
The point is not all areas of the Hosptital take the same level of precautions, not all jobs have patient contact yet they do come in contact with those that do. It's an environment it is more then fair to expect vaccines because one persons health effects another and most hospitalized people are already in a weakened condition. This is common sense.
You refuted me with a different situational example from my response. To have a rational discussion we keep the focus on the same set of facts.Quote:
If you're a patient, do you want the vaccinated staff or unvaccinated staff in your non covid room? I don't hang out inside with unvaccinated people even well.
Look, some jobs require a higher level of accountability and that's fair.
I was responding as if I was a vaccinated patient and the employee is dealing with me. In those cases I am pretty sure all employees are wearing mask. I have yet to be in a medical environment in the last year where the patient facing employees were not wearing mask and in all cases the visitors were also required to wear a mask as well unless they are in the process of being attended to.
I'm not looking for common sense without scientific reasoning, which is not necessarily always factual but rather evidence based. In the case I proposed the patient is vaccinated and the employee is using PPE and hygiene as protection from spread to me or from me. In that case the risk of infection, and more importantly severe COVID infection, for me is sufficiently low in my estimation that I am not concerned that the worker is not vaccinated. I am trusting all the other precautions that are in place including my vaccination.
What happens when that person goes to an area in the hospital where there are not patient facing protocols, perhaps human resources, is not my concern as a patient. If the HR employee and the patient facing employee choose to be both unvaccinated and not use PPE when dealing with each other in their area, then common sense says it doesn't involve me and scientific reasoning says my risks remain very low.
I also bet you would find the non-patient facing employees are required to wear masks anytime they are in a room with any other employee and that all areas require employees to be masked or distanced from one another when they are together. That is the policy at at least one of the largest Texas hospital systems according to my friend that works in administration there and likely at most all of the others as well.
That's their choice. And you are not in the hospital, you are visiting. Some are there sick with diminished immune systems.coolerguy12 said:
In the hospital right now after the birth of our daughter. Couldn't care less if the staff is vaccinated or not. Would prefer they don't wear masks so we could actually talk to them like normal people but unfortunately that's not going to happen.
The place we're at just mandated vaccines yesterday for staff and our overnight nurse said she knows of a few that will quit over this and they are already short staffed.
It was tongue in check. I propose health care workers get vaccinated. It's really that simple.
Haven't skipped a beat at work since the beginning. Over 500 people whose average age is about 45 and in a outdoor/indoor setting. Worse it got was about 10 people who popped positive about a year ago. Of course many more were sent home for precautionary reasons. Masks haven't been mandated for the last 6 months too.
Well really you propose everyone get vaccinated whether they want to or not (this coming from someone vaccinated)bay fan said:
It was tongue in check. I propose health care workers get vaccinated. It's really that simple.
I guess a 1 day old baby and wife recovering from a c-section don't fit your official narrative. Fact is you made a statement that isn't true. Own it instead of crawfishing around on it.
An unsurprisingly obtuse view from bay fan.
Everyone just shut up and get the injection.
It's not that simple. My wife has been an RN for 30+ years, has had and recovered from COVID and has has two different autoimmune disorders.
Her hospital system is likely going to follow suit with the mandatory injection.
But you think she should just take it. Not.
Here's a question for you? If you have had the injection why do you care if people around you have or have not?
Everyone just shut up and get the injection.
It's not that simple. My wife has been an RN for 30+ years, has had and recovered from COVID and has has two different autoimmune disorders.
Her hospital system is likely going to follow suit with the mandatory injection.
But you think she should just take it. Not.
Here's a question for you? If you have had the injection why do you care if people around you have or have not?
PVCs are not a medical exclusion for the vaccine. We have required healthcare workers be vaccinated for various communicable diseases for decades. This is no different. The vaccine is safe and effective. Please consider your patients and get vaccinated. No sense losing your job over.
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It's the same lazy answer they had for masks. It protects others and others get it to protect you. We're all in this together blah blah blah.
Couldn't agree more!
But I still want to hear from bay!
But I still want to hear from bay!
Healthcare workers, yes. It seems quite obvious.gougler08 said:Well really you propose everyone get vaccinated whether they want to or not (this coming from someone vaccinated)bay fan said:
It was tongue in check. I propose health care workers get vaccinated. It's really that simple.
bay fan said:Or retire.could be time.rafer69 said:
An unsurprisingly obtuse view from bay fan.
Everyone just shut up and get the injection.
It's not that simple. My wife has been an RN for 30+ years, has had and recovered from COVID and has has two different autoimmune disorders.
Her hospital system is likely going to follow suit with the mandatory injection.
But you think she should just take it. Not.
Here's a question for you? If you have had the injection why do you care if people around you have or have not?
That doesn't answer his question
bay fan said:Healthcare workers, yes. It seems quite obvious.gougler08 said:Well really you propose everyone get vaccinated whether they want to or not (this coming from someone vaccinated)bay fan said:
It was tongue in check. I propose health care workers get vaccinated. It's really that simple.
But you've also made comments that people not vaccinated shouldn't be treated if they catch Covid
Yes I have the vaccine.
Because were I sick and hospitalized I for any reason, I would sue any hospital that allowed an unvaccinated person to care for me if I came down with it after being exposed as would most people who chose to take precautions with our health. I am surprised anyone has a hard time following this.
Because were I sick and hospitalized I for any reason, I would sue any hospital that allowed an unvaccinated person to care for me if I came down with it after being exposed as would most people who chose to take precautions with our health. I am surprised anyone has a hard time following this.
No, I agreed insurance perhaps shouldn't have to cover it. Very different.
bay fan said:
Yes I have the vaccine.
Because were I sick and hospitalized I for any reason, I would sue any hospital that allowed an unvaccinated person to care for me if I came down with it after being exposed as would most people who chose to take precautions with our health. I am surprised anyone has a hard time following this.
And that would go nowhere as transmission can't be proved. You probably know this though.
Is that really your only reason?
Do things her way or else. Consequences could be losing your job or your life depending on the whim of the scenario she's cooked up. But we're still all in this together. Thank you frontline heroes!
Yep, I have set policy with all the major companies across the nation and health care systems making this decision. I am very powerful. Only I have a say.GAC06 said:
Do things her way or else. Consequences could be losing your job or your life depending on the whim of the scenario she's cooked up. But we're still all in this together. Thank you frontline heroes!
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