**Official Harvey Thread** Updated Staff Warning on OP 1:50 p.m. 8/27

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Bondag said:

Collard Greens said:



Neighbors have resorted to potting soil in lieu of sand bags
I was just at Home depot buying things for work and saw a soccermom with 3 kids in tow buying 6 bags of mulch.


Mulch? Lol
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i hear that. i think i'll calm down after she comes off shift.

thank you for your input.
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claym711 said:

Careful with that kind of talk. Your head will roll if you do not panic.
Aw, quit getting butthurt. You disagree with those panicking, they disagree with you. Is there anything more to be said? Just leave it be.
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MAS444 said:

Any reports on the highways/traffic getting out of town? Trying to figure out if/when I'm leaving...
suggest you monitor Google Traffic maps. No significant traffic on any roads leaving Houston right now... tonight might be a different animal as people get off work and start the freak out mode. I did the Rita evacuation - never again.
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Houston Transtar is by far the best way to monitor Houston traffic. These are the people that run all the cameras you see on the polls.

http://traffic.houstontranstar.org/layers/

You can even access the cameras.

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Good site to monitor river levels near you. Recommend viewing on a desktop. It will show you when it's approaching the bank level.

https://www.harriscountyfws.org/
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devastor said:

Here is 5-day forecast showing second landfall




Username checks out.


Edit: crap, I read that as devastator.
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Hennessy11 said:

Good site to monitor river levels near you. Recommend viewing on a desktop. It will show you when it's approaching the bank level.

https://www.harriscountyfws.org/
Thanks for this. I am up in Dallas, but I am in charge of facilities in Houston, Freeport, Corpus, and Brownsville.

Your link pointed me to a monitoring site just a few hundred feet from my Houston location.

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DRE06 said:

Anyone know where I could get 5-6 sand bags in West houston/spring branch area?
I am using potting soil and mulch bags since sand bags are impossible to find. Not perfect but probably better than nothing.
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my "this is going to be meh" meter is starting to tick up... this second landfall business is sounding like an attempt to save face. that said, I've 34 gallons of bleach in the attic ready to go...
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Ag13 said:


Based on the SCW blog last night, this is actually a better scenario for large parts of Houston than if the thing traveled up here along the 59 corridor.
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rononeill said:

my "this is going to be meh" meter is starting to tick up... this second landfall business is sounding like an attempt to save face. that said, I've 34 gallons of bleach in the attic ready to go...
Praying you're right. I don't think people are panicking overmuch based on the forecasts but there's always a "the end is NIGH!!" sense with these big storms. I live here in Cypress, all the roads around my house are under construction so flooding will be a total wild card since the drainage will be impacted - we have never flooded before but we've never had the drainage behind out house torn up and culverts half-finished either. And I have family in Port A and Rockport and my heart is breaking for the losses they may have. My cousin is a Rockport first responder so his wife and mom don't even get to be with him while they wonder what they're coming home to. Frankly if this whole thing turns out to be a huge nothingburger I would pop champagne.

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Not correct.
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i thought his better case scenario was the storm hitting Beaumont

hitting Galveston is more the 59 track
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Agree with AgLA06. Going back over water allows it to strengthen in winds and throw more rain up on us.


"Facts no longer exist. Everything is a "point of view" now."
Daniel Suarez's 2011 "Freedom"
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How so? He said this:
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The Euro special
Odds: 40 percent. Earlier today we discussed the European model solution for Harvey, which brings the storm into the Texas coast, stalls it, then pulls it back over the Gulf of Mexico and eventually into southwestern Louisiana. Under such a scenario, depending upon the track, much of the Houston area would likely get 5 to 25 inches of rainfall, with the greater totals closer to the coast.

The wandering 59 special
Odds: 35 percent. This solution is favored by many members of the GFS model ensemble, in which Harvey comes inland, and wanders around Corpus Christi, and the rest of the Valley until Sunday or Monday. Then it moves up the Highway 59 corridor, into Houston, over Beaumont, and off into Louisiana. Such a scenario would likely bring 10 to 25 inches of rain to much of the Houston metro area, but totals might not necessarily be greatest along the coast.
Sounds like 5-25" with the higher totals towards the coast is a better alternative than the other. Granted, he talks about a model where it makes landfall in SW LA and not in Texas which I think that picture shows.
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rononeill said:

my "this is going to be meh" meter is starting to tick up... this second landfall business is sounding like an attempt to save face. that said, I've 34 gallons of bleach in the attic ready to go...
Are you supposed to cut the bleach anything or just drink it straight from the bottle?
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jenn96 said:

rononeill said:

my "this is going to be meh" meter is starting to tick up... this second landfall business is sounding like an attempt to save face. that said, I've 34 gallons of bleach in the attic ready to go...
Praying you're right. I don't think people are panicking overmuch based on the forecasts but there's always a "the end is NIGH!!" sense with these big storms. I live here in Cypress, all the roads around my house are under construction so flooding will be a total wild card since the drainage will be impacted - we have never flooded before but we've never had the drainage behind out house torn up and culverts half-finished either. And I have family in Port A and Rockport and my heart is breaking for the losses they may have. My cousin is a Rockport first responder so his wife and mom don't even get to be with him while they wonder what they're coming home to. Frankly if this whole thing turns out to be a huge nothingburger I would pop champagne.


where abouts in cypress are you? I'm in far west Tomball and I'm wondering how this is all going to play out. Part of me thinks it won't be that bad.
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Very Tolerant Nice Guy said:

rononeill said:

my "this is going to be meh" meter is starting to tick up... this second landfall business is sounding like an attempt to save face. that said, I've 34 gallons of bleach in the attic ready to go...
Are you supposed to cut the bleach anything or just drink it straight from the bottle?
depends on how bad the storm gets
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spadilly said:




That's what Im amazed folks have neglected to talk about. The dirty side of the storm has lots of tornadoes usually.
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Is Houston even going to get anything bad? And if it does, not until Sunday or Monday?
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Quote:

Granted, he talks about a model where it makes landfall in SW LA and not in Texas which I think that picture shows.
yeah, hitting in Texas is the difference for the metro area
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BowSowy said:

Ag13 said:


Based on the SCW blog last night, this is actually a better scenario for large parts of Houston than if the thing traveled up here along the 59 corridor.


Just read a blog about this... the problem with the second landfall scenario is the storm surge continuation & the amount of freshwater drainage that will get stuck inland.
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where abouts in cypress are you? I'm in far west Tomball and I'm wondering how this is all going to play out. Part of me thinks it won't be that bad.
I'm at the very eastern edge of Cypress, at Louetta & Grant. Normally I wouldn't be very worried about flooding - we are not near any creeks or watersheds and I've run the DFIRM hydrography layers and our house looks fine - but the Grant Rd construction has me puckered tighter than as snare drum. Our house backs up to Grant Rd.

I REALLY hope it won't be that bad.
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The further out into the gulf it goes, the more it'll strengthen and act as a giant water pump. Storm surge will prevent drainage at normal rates. Just have to wait and see.
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tell me about the DFIRM study?
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rononeill said:

tell me about the DFIRM study?
Sorry, that wasn't clear. I use a program called Landvsion for my job and it allows you to lay in the FEMA, DFIRM and Wetlands layers for an area to see where they are. I'm in commercial real estate and we have to let buyers know if properties are in one of these wet layers before they buy.

It's not a "study" just the info that we find. Here is a free online version for that data, just enter your address
FEMA Floodplains Map
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Bondag said:

Collard Greens said:



Neighbors have resorted to potting soil in lieu of sand bags
I was just at Home depot buying things for work and saw a soccermom with 3 kids in tow buying 6 bags of mulch.
Idiots. Sit them on their sides so you get more than 3 inches of displacement.
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Released from Texas Children's this morning. Glad to have made it back to Cypress before any potential flooding.
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Best news all day! Here's to quick healing!
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Hurricane and flood internet badasses are probably worse than the bipolar women running around Kroger like it's the apocalypse.

Sure, there have been misses in the past because weather is tough to predict, and the news media likes to hype sh**. But Houston has been hit enough times for us to know what could happen if any of these grim predictions are even half correct. Would rather err on the side of caution. Will be happy as hell though if Clay711 ends up being right though and this was all just drummed up panic for nothing.

Any heavy rain/potential flooding forecast puts me on alert these days given how much Houston has been built up in the past decade. Think about neighborhoods like the Heights and surrounding areas and how much construction has gone in. No way there are enough retention ponds to offset it all. Hell, my backyard in OF accumulates water noticeably faster than it did several years ago just due to all of the bigger homes going in. Recently heard that pop has grown by roughly 1MM just since Ike (seems hard to believe though).

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