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trouble said:

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They threw a lot of money at it summer of '24. Not so much in the last year.

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Was this an attitude of POS can real them in on his own, or more like donor exhaustion?

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He made promises and couldn't deliver when the donations were made.

Judas not staying true to his word? Write that!

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TarponChaser said:

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Ball Five said:

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I second this. They had some pretty good teams a while back but couldn't keep any consistency because they just don't invest in baseball. Basketball and football (in that order) are their #1 and #2 sports. Some local radio hosts believe they can be a sleeping giant in baseball due to all the local talent if the likes of Tilman and other big donors pour money into the program but that just hasn't happened.

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The baseball facilities at UH are pretty solid even with having a turf field and it could probably use a refresh soon.

But, they probably can be a power with the recruiting base around Houston if they're smart about allocating their money.

Don't want to derail this thread so I'll post another regarding scholarships and NIL in baseball.

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Their field is gross. By what standard and knowledge are you using to say their facilities are solid?

There are at least 5 teams in the Big 12 with a better recruiting pitch than UH outside of the fact that they are in the heart of Houston.

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Which if you've been there, isn't exactly a good pitch…

trouble said:

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missinAggieland said:

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trouble said:

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They threw a lot of money at it summer of '24. Not so much in the last year.

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Was this an attitude of POS can real them in on his own, or more like donor exhaustion?

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He made promises and couldn't deliver when the donations were made.

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Call me shocked!

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austinag1997 said:

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twk said:

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Ball Five said:

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My LSU buddy says he thinks there's tension between Johnson and the AD. Have no idea how credible this contention is but it's something that's in my mind.

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Winning two national championships in four years is not enough?

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Johnson was hired by Scott Woodward, who was fired last fall during football season. His replacement does not inspire a lot of confidence, but the biggest source of tension (and one that is common across the sport) is likely how much revenue sharing money is given to baseball.

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He was fired for 2 reasons:

1. Politics. And this is the primary reason. There is a lot to unpack here and I don't have the patience to explain it all.

2. And this is simply the reason given for #1 above. TAF had to fund a $53M buyout that the Governor wrongly stated that taxpayers would pay.

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The Governor was playing games saying that taxpayers would pay. What he meant was that the state/taxpayers were the guarantor of the contract meaning if they didn't have boosters and donations that were willing to pay it then the taxpayers would be on the hook for it (which is true). But of course they wouldn't have made the move if they hadn't found the donors who were willing to pay for it.

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TAF is always backstopped and Landry knew that in a suite in Tiger stadium as we throttled LSU that night. All of the major donors were in that suite with him.

Taxpayers have never backstopped TAF.

TarponChaser said:

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HoustonAg2106 said:

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TarponChaser said:

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Ball Five said:

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I second this. They had some pretty good teams a while back but couldn't keep any consistency because they just don't invest in baseball. Basketball and football (in that order) are their #1 and #2 sports. Some local radio hosts believe they can be a sleeping giant in baseball due to all the local talent if the likes of Tilman and other big donors pour money into the program but that just hasn't happened.

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The baseball facilities at UH are pretty solid even with having a turf field and it could probably use a refresh soon.

But, they probably can be a power with the recruiting base around Houston if they're smart about allocating their money.

Don't want to derail this thread so I'll post another regarding scholarships and NIL in baseball.

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Their field is gross. By what standard and knowledge are you using to say their facilities are solid?

There are at least 5 teams in the Big 12 with a better recruiting pitch than UH outside of the fact that they are in the heart of Houston.

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Have you been in their locker room, weight room, or baseball development facilities? They're pretty solid. Not elite but better than most BigXII programs or at a minimum on par. TCU and Okie Lite are better without a doubt but others I'm not so sure. I do like the fact that Baylol and tceh are natural grass.

I don't like the turf but lots of recruits don't care because they've grown up playing on turf. Stands are small but no bad seats really.

Their recruiting pitch is to the kids within about 150-200 miles so they can play in front of their family and have the top level development facilities here and base of pros to train with too. If your a recruit from the Houston area would you rather go to Lubbock or Stillwater or Manhattan or play near home?

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1. How much NIL money am I getting?

2. How will you help me develop into an MLB-level player?

Nothing else really matters anymore.

Luke The Drifter said:

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TarponChaser said:

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HoustonAg2106 said:

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TarponChaser said:

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Ball Five said:

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I second this. They had some pretty good teams a while back but couldn't keep any consistency because they just don't invest in baseball. Basketball and football (in that order) are their #1 and #2 sports. Some local radio hosts believe they can be a sleeping giant in baseball due to all the local talent if the likes of Tilman and other big donors pour money into the program but that just hasn't happened.

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The baseball facilities at UH are pretty solid even with having a turf field and it could probably use a refresh soon.

But, they probably can be a power with the recruiting base around Houston if they're smart about allocating their money.

Don't want to derail this thread so I'll post another regarding scholarships and NIL in baseball.

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Their field is gross. By what standard and knowledge are you using to say their facilities are solid?

There are at least 5 teams in the Big 12 with a better recruiting pitch than UH outside of the fact that they are in the heart of Houston.

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Have you been in their locker room, weight room, or baseball development facilities? They're pretty solid. Not elite but better than most BigXII programs or at a minimum on par. TCU and Okie Lite are better without a doubt but others I'm not so sure. I do like the fact that Baylol and tceh are natural grass.

I don't like the turf but lots of recruits don't care because they've grown up playing on turf. Stands are small but no bad seats really.

Their recruiting pitch is to the kids within about 150-200 miles so they can play in front of their family and have the top level development facilities here and base of pros to train with too. If your a recruit from the Houston area would you rather go to Lubbock or Stillwater or Manhattan or play near home?

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1. How much NIL money am I getting?

2. How will you help me develop into an MLB-level player?

Nothing else really matters anymore.

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Those are probably recruiting criteria 1a and 1b. But from what I hear most BigXII programs are not able to be very competitive in NIL money.

Luke The Drifter said:

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TarponChaser said:

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HoustonAg2106 said:

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TarponChaser said:

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Ball Five said:

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I second this. They had some pretty good teams a while back but couldn't keep any consistency because they just don't invest in baseball. Basketball and football (in that order) are their #1 and #2 sports. Some local radio hosts believe they can be a sleeping giant in baseball due to all the local talent if the likes of Tilman and other big donors pour money into the program but that just hasn't happened.

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The baseball facilities at UH are pretty solid even with having a turf field and it could probably use a refresh soon.

But, they probably can be a power with the recruiting base around Houston if they're smart about allocating their money.

Don't want to derail this thread so I'll post another regarding scholarships and NIL in baseball.

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Their field is gross. By what standard and knowledge are you using to say their facilities are solid?

There are at least 5 teams in the Big 12 with a better recruiting pitch than UH outside of the fact that they are in the heart of Houston.

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Have you been in their locker room, weight room, or baseball development facilities? They're pretty solid. Not elite but better than most BigXII programs or at a minimum on par. TCU and Okie Lite are better without a doubt but others I'm not so sure. I do like the fact that Baylol and tceh are natural grass.

I don't like the turf but lots of recruits don't care because they've grown up playing on turf. Stands are small but no bad seats really.

Their recruiting pitch is to the kids within about 150-200 miles so they can play in front of their family and have the top level development facilities here and base of pros to train with too. If your a recruit from the Houston area would you rather go to Lubbock or Stillwater or Manhattan or play near home?

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1. How much NIL money am I getting?

2. How will you help me develop into an MLB-level player?

Nothing else really matters anymore.

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That's not quite true. Although the House settlement allows schools to fully fund the entire roster, most schools are not doing that. My guess is that UH isn't funding significantly more scholarships than they were before House. In fact, I would be surprised if there is a single Big XII school doing that. Even some SEC schools are phasing that in. A&M opted to fund the full complement.

Austin is a tough place to live with a family unless you are wealthy, or got here 35 years ago. All the good school districts have extremely overpriced homes. Commutes are brutal. tu baseball has little fan support and an A-hole head coach past his prime.

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Austin is a tough place to live with a family unless you are wealthy, or got here 35 years ago. All the good school districts have extremely overpriced homes. Commutes are brutal. tu baseball has little fan support and an A-hole head coach past his prime.

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I would slow down on the past his prime stuff. Back to back seasons as top 8 seeds and fresh off a trip to Omaha. Maybe wait until they start missing some tournaments or hitting the road more for regionals

Earley would have gotten an extension with the season that tu just had

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Austin is a tough place to live with a family unless you are wealthy, or got here 35 years ago. All the good school districts have extremely overpriced homes. Commutes are brutal. tu baseball has little fan support and an A-hole head coach past his prime.

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Everything was fine until the "past his prime" part. Come on man, he was a hair away from taking us to the promised land just 2 years ago, and had another good run this year in the CWS. Hate on him for his persona and morals all you want, but let's be realistic.

Tech has FieldTurf, not natural grass.

Luigi Vampa said:

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HECUBUS said:

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Austin is a tough place to live with a family unless you are wealthy, or got here 35 years ago. All the good school districts have extremely overpriced homes. Commutes are brutal. tu baseball has little fan support and an A-hole head coach past his prime.

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Everything was fine until the "past his prime" part. Come on man, he was a hair away from taking us to the promised land just 2 years ago, and had another good run this year in the CWS. Hate on him for his persona and morals all you want, but let's be realistic.

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True. Hopefully, that will be the zenith of his coaching career though. It very well could be.

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ensign_beedrill said:

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Tech has FieldTurf, not natural grass.

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That's disappointing. I thought they had grass. Maybe a fairly recent change.

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No. They've had some form of turf since the 90's.

Luigi Vampa said:

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Austin is a tough place to live with a family unless you are wealthy, or got here 35 years ago. All the good school districts have extremely overpriced homes. Commutes are brutal. tu baseball has little fan support and an A-hole head coach past his prime.

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Everything was fine until the "past his prime" part. Come on man, he was a hair away from taking us to the promised land just 2 years ago, and had another good run this year in the CWS. Hate on him for his persona and morals all you want, but let's be realistic.

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"Another good run"

Now he's a great coach but two things.

A good run should include you beat a couple of really good teams. That did not happen.

He is now getting labeled as a coach that cannot win it all. Cannot finish. That pressure is only going to get worse every year and will be very counter intuitive.

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Hopefully he has spent the past few weeks actively recruiting the best Texas players and commits to join him in Aggieland.

In all seriousness though this is a great hire. Only downside is that he will probably be a head coach soon. He will make our program better in the meantime though.

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Not saying you're wrong - but I think he could have easily been a head coach by now including when we hired Earley. It's possible he doesn't want to be a Head Coach or at least not at this point in his life/career.

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Or he thinks Earley is on the ropes enough that he can position himself internally to take the reins if something happens to ME. Just saying he has an inside track to HC position if he is already on the staff, knows the playes and recruits...just like ME did.

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We aren't going to hire an assistant coach from our program to be a first time head coach two coaching changes in a row. You almost always see an overcorrection in the new coach being much different than the guy who just failed.

I think its likely pretty simple explanation. Cain took the job because we offered him a raise and the ability to work with Earley who he has a better relationship with than Schloss. Maybe some other factors played smaller roles as well such as enjoying living in C-Stat or felt better about his ability to do his job here.

Cain has had opportunities to be a HC before, but I bet either wants a top tier job that he hasn't been offered yet or is happy being an elite assistant coach where he makes as much as mid tier HCs and has more job security.

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Hopefully he has spent the past few weeks actively recruiting the best Texas players and commits to join him in Aggieland.

In all seriousness though this is a great hire. Only downside is that he will probably be a head coach soon. He will make our program better in the meantime though.

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Not saying you're wrong - but I think he could have easily been a head coach by now including when we hired Earley. It's possible he doesn't want to be a Head Coach or at least not at this point in his life/career.

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Or he thinks Earley is on the ropes enough that he can position himself internally to take the reins if something happens to ME. Just saying he has an inside track to HC position if he is already on the staff, knows the playes and recruits...just like ME did.

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I'm sorry, but this is just stupid. If we were going to promote from within (highly unlikely), who would be more likely: (1) the alum with MLB playing experience who helped usher in a big turnaround this year; or (2) the LSU alum who initially followed POS, and then, in your hypothetical, was part of a team that regressed? Seriously, stop reading the sip boards.

Cain doesn't like schloss… Cain likes Earley… end of story…

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Cain doesn't like schloss… Cain likes Earley… end of story…

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And we are paying him more

this guy dragged us when he was here AND when he left.

How so?

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Hopefully he has spent the past few weeks actively recruiting the best Texas players and commits to join him in Aggieland.

In all seriousness though this is a great hire. Only downside is that he will probably be a head coach soon. He will make our program better in the meantime though.

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Not saying you're wrong - but I think he could have easily been a head coach by now including when we hired Earley. It's possible he doesn't want to be a Head Coach or at least not at this point in his life/career.

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Or he thinks Earley is on the ropes enough that he can position himself internally to take the reins if something happens to ME. Just saying he has an inside track to HC position if he is already on the staff, knows the playes and recruits...just like ME did.

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I can't imagine we would go that route again if Earley doesn't work out

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You are way over thinking this.

Schloss is a A hole Narcissist for Starters.
CS is much better place for typical college coaches than Austin.

It's this simple.

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You are underthinking this. If it's that simple, Why not go be a head coach at cougar high or anywhere else?

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I grew up in Houston and when I graduated from A&M, if you told me then I would ever want to move back here. I would've said you were crazy. Not because I hated school here. I loved it but to me it was a very much college town then. It's not so much anymore.

I got sick of Houston. I moved back here right before my 40th birthday in 2006. I have access to Houston Dallas, Austin, San Antonio, just as easily without having to deal with it. Austin is chaotic too.

Some people don't wanna live in big cities. Also, if he felt it much better here for his kids, that may have a lot to do without being nefarious. And he may not want to be a head coach. Maybe he does we'll see down the road. Being so sure that it has to be what you think it is is quite narrowminded..

Mairzy Doats said:

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ummm a few thoughts....

1. this guy dragged us when he was here AND when he left.

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What did he say here and when he left? How did he "drag" us?

Excited! Life is getting better