Could anyone answer where we stand on season ticket availability and stadium expansion options?
Stadium expansion
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Nowhere. The capacity isn't changing any time soon. If you want tickets you better be buying other tickets to other sports and donating a ton of money to TMF.
The revenue from an expanded park would not come close to covering the construction costs, and we are trying not to take an any more debt. So, it won't happen until some donors write a big check (and possibly a new naming rights sponsor steps up).
Season tickets are sold out. We have a few reserved seats available for some games (mostly when the visitors don't take all their comps), but, otherwise, it's GA or secondary market if you want individual game tickets.
Season tickets are sold out. We have a few reserved seats available for some games (mostly when the visitors don't take all their comps), but, otherwise, it's GA or secondary market if you want individual game tickets.
wrong forum
Thank you all for the straight answers.
GigEm04 said:
Not needed til earley goes
Not even a little bit true but it always amusing when people state with such confidence things that are provably false. Demand continues to far outpace supply even as prices rise annually.
Sad two people gave you stars.
The federal government was never meant to be this powerful.
The decision to restrict stadium updates to the current footprint greatly limited options for physical and aesthetic improvements. The decision was not warmly embraced by donors I know, with the consensus among them being the program has outgrown BBP.
Moreover, a significant amount of football money is not going to be spent on baseball, impairing the fund raising necessary to further build the current site.
Limited seating and demand driven ticket prices are the future.
Moreover, a significant amount of football money is not going to be spent on baseball, impairing the fund raising necessary to further build the current site.
Limited seating and demand driven ticket prices are the future.
We can't fill up for our own regional elimination game. Don't need to expand…
There isn't a college baseball stadium in America that is going to fill up for a Monday game at 8 PM.Dr. Horrible said:
We can't fill up for our own regional elimination game. Don't need to expand…
Especially when the students are gone
Dr. Horrible said:
We can't fill up for our own regional elimination game. Don't need to expand…
Again not remotely relevant and it's frustrating people are giving stars to posts that don't demonstrate any understanding of the topic at hand. Every game the Ags played last weekend was busting at the seems except the Monday night "if necessary" game and that's your indictment of the fanbase? More to the topic of expansion thats your measure of demand for tickets?
Demand for season tickets at Olsen far outpaces supply even as prices go up annually. Thats a simple truth thats proved multiple times a year when people ask this exact question. There are people that have been waiting for years to get season tickets to A&M Baseball with no luck. It's almost certainly the hardest ticket in the athletic department. Demand is there, that's undeniable.
The federal government was never meant to be this powerful.
Extend seats along first and third base and add some permanent seats on outfield fence and cut the temporary seats. All the surveys were about club seats and exclusive seating. Not everyone cashed out of an ownership position of an oil and gas company. The berms are the WORST
Only a few students go to baseball games. We have 80,000 of them.
I will say, watching the games this weekend, Plainsman Park is head and shoulders above all else. It's not even close.
Buford T. Justice said:
I will say, watching the games this weekend, Plainsman Park is head and shoulders above all else. It's not even close.
They made on mistake when they built that place 30 years ago: having the grandstand run straight from the backstop to the foul pole, rather than running parallel to the foul line along the infield before angling in to the foul pole. The former approach os often used by small parks because it brings the seats closer to the field, but it makes seats down the line (if you decide to go bigger) suck because the angle back to the plate is so severe.
What you should also notice is that they put all their new premium seating along the first base line, which is the West (shady) side. Down the third base line, they have less permanent seating (although they have brought in a lot of temporary seats to place over some permanent terracing here).
So, cheap seats are needed... But cheap seats suck?
The berms fill a real niche which is why hundreds of stadiums in college and MiLB use them. And, on a random Tuesday against the #302 RPI teams we like to schedule they don't scream "2000 empty seats!!"
Now, having said that, if it's possible to move them to the outfield in certain spots, or eliminate some portion of the berm to replace with seats I think that makes sense. But I think they only thing that is worse than not jamming enough seats for the 2-3 big series is having empty seats galore on TV for 10 home weekends.
The berms fill a real niche which is why hundreds of stadiums in college and MiLB use them. And, on a random Tuesday against the #302 RPI teams we like to schedule they don't scream "2000 empty seats!!"
Now, having said that, if it's possible to move them to the outfield in certain spots, or eliminate some portion of the berm to replace with seats I think that makes sense. But I think they only thing that is worse than not jamming enough seats for the 2-3 big series is having empty seats galore on TV for 10 home weekends.
Buford T. Justice said:
Only a few students go to baseball games. We have 80,000 of them.
They would for a regional final game. It means more
GigEm04 said:
Not needed til earley goes
LOYAL AG said:Dr. Horrible said:
We can't fill up for our own regional elimination game. Don't need to expand…
Again not remotely relevant and it's frustrating people are giving stars to posts that don't demonstrate any understanding of the topic at hand. Every game the Ags played last weekend was busting at the seems except the Monday night "if necessary" game and that's your indictment of the fanbase? More to the topic of expansion thats your measure of demand for tickets?
Demand for season tickets at Olsen far outpaces supply even as prices go up annually. Thats a simple truth thats proved multiple times a year when people ask this exact question. There are people that have been waiting for years to get season tickets to A&M Baseball with no luck. It's almost certainly the hardest ticket in the athletic department. Demand is there, that's undeniable.
Demand for season tickets does not equate to demand for going to most baseball games. People want season tickets to guarantee they can go to the few most popular games a year that have the highest demand. They don't want season tickets to go to the whole season as evidenced by the rest of the season, and that's not a good reason for stadium expansion. If you want to talk about better ways to get unused seats into the hands of people that want them, I'm all for it, that is a legit problem. But we don't need a bigger stadium to have more empty seats for the vast majority of the games, there just isn't support for it across the whole season. And once there is, I'll be the first one in line banging the drum for expansion. I want nothing more than us consistently selling out a 15k stadium, because I love this team and this sport that much, but expansion means we need more fans to make this a commitment rather than a convenience.
Buford T. Justice said:
I will say, watching the games this weekend, Plainsman Park is head and shoulders above all else. It's not even close.
It is a great park to watch a game. Great sight lines. It does have a parking garage as the back drop for left field which is an eyesore.
Foley field at Georgia was one of our faves also. And then they put in artificial turf. The trees, the hill with the house behind right field, the sight lines at Foley are great.
We enjoyed West Virginia's ball park except for the turf field.
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redsquirrelAG said:
Could anyone answer where we stand on season ticket availability and stadium expansion options?
All I will say is that I wouldn't hold my breath on a baseball stadium redo.
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If a redo where do the funds come from?
who gets the seats ?
if by priority points you will have the same empty seats for non marque matchups like currently seen
who gets the seats ?
if by priority points you will have the same empty seats for non marque matchups like currently seen
chickencoupe16 said:Buford T. Justice said:
Only a few students go to baseball games. We have 80,000 of them.
They would for a regional final game. It means more
Except they are already gone
At this point, and in my opinion, we should wait another 15 years and then completely start over. But proceed with the player development stuff.
Buford T. Justice said:
At this point, and in my opinion, we should wait another 15 years and then completely start over. But proceed with the player development stuff.
I think you are pretty accurate. And I will be 86 then so who knows? But I prefer a complete rebuild with a club where you can see the field.
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trouble said:chickencoupe16 said:Buford T. Justice said:
Only a few students go to baseball games. We have 80,000 of them.
They would for a regional final game. It means more
Except they are already gone
Which was of course my original point:
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Especially when the students are gone
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Dr. Horrible said:LOYAL AG said:Dr. Horrible said:
We can't fill up for our own regional elimination game. Don't need to expand…
Again not remotely relevant and it's frustrating people are giving stars to posts that don't demonstrate any understanding of the topic at hand. Every game the Ags played last weekend was busting at the seems except the Monday night "if necessary" game and that's your indictment of the fanbase? More to the topic of expansion thats your measure of demand for tickets?
Demand for season tickets at Olsen far outpaces supply even as prices go up annually. Thats a simple truth thats proved multiple times a year when people ask this exact question. There are people that have been waiting for years to get season tickets to A&M Baseball with no luck. It's almost certainly the hardest ticket in the athletic department. Demand is there, that's undeniable.
Demand for season tickets does not equate to demand for going to most baseball games. People want season tickets to guarantee they can go to the few most popular games a year that have the highest demand. They don't want season tickets to go to the whole season as evidenced by the rest of the season, and that's not a good reason for stadium expansion. If you want to talk about better ways to get unused seats into the hands of people that want them, I'm all for it, that is a legit problem. But we don't need a bigger stadium to have more empty seats for the vast majority of the games, there just isn't support for it across the whole season. And once there is, I'll be the first one in line banging the drum for expansion. I want nothing more than us consistently selling out a 15k stadium, because I love this team and this sport that much, but expansion means we need more fans to make this a commitment rather than a convenience.
So your argument against increasing capacity is that current season ticket holders don't go to every game so the rest of the fanbase just gets left out? You're alone in that perspective. We've been debating this for years and I don't think I've ever seen that position so congrats, I guess.
Everyone has empty seats from time to time. We're no different than any other program in that regard. Watch Arkansas or State some time during the regular season and you'll see they look just like us. There's 30+ games a season, it's not practical to think everyone is going to make every game and we didn't build the capacity we have expecting that.
You build for the 7-10 games a year when you could name your number and you'd get that many to show up. If we had 12k permanent seats we'd fill that probably 8 times a year particularly in years like this one when we're flirting with the top 10 most of the season. Add 3000 more season tickets at something like $800 each and you're adding $2.4M to the top line. Thats just the simple truth and that's how these decisions are made.
The federal government was never meant to be this powerful.
Dr. Horrible said:LOYAL AG said:Dr. Horrible said:
We can't fill up for our own regional elimination game. Don't need to expand…
Again not remotely relevant and it's frustrating people are giving stars to posts that don't demonstrate any understanding of the topic at hand. Every game the Ags played last weekend was busting at the seems except the Monday night "if necessary" game and that's your indictment of the fanbase? More to the topic of expansion thats your measure of demand for tickets?
Demand for season tickets at Olsen far outpaces supply even as prices go up annually. Thats a simple truth thats proved multiple times a year when people ask this exact question. There are people that have been waiting for years to get season tickets to A&M Baseball with no luck. It's almost certainly the hardest ticket in the athletic department. Demand is there, that's undeniable.
Demand for season tickets does not equate to demand for going to most baseball games. People want season tickets to guarantee they can go to the few most popular games a year that have the highest demand. They don't want season tickets to go to the whole season as evidenced by the rest of the season, and that's not a good reason for stadium expansion. If you want to talk about better ways to get unused seats into the hands of people that want them, I'm all for it, that is a legit problem. But we don't need a bigger stadium to have more empty seats for the vast majority of the games, there just isn't support for it across the whole season. And once there is, I'll be the first one in line banging the drum for expansion. I want nothing more than us consistently selling out a 15k stadium, because I love this team and this sport that much, but expansion means we need more fans to make this a commitment rather than a convenience.
Even Mississippi State has empty seats more often than people think.
I go to all of the games - even midweek. We have a decent showing for Tuesday games. The SEC weekends are full. It was great for tu (obviously) and Auburn.
TAMU1990 said:Dr. Horrible said:LOYAL AG said:Dr. Horrible said:
We can't fill up for our own regional elimination game. Don't need to expand…
Again not remotely relevant and it's frustrating people are giving stars to posts that don't demonstrate any understanding of the topic at hand. Every game the Ags played last weekend was busting at the seems except the Monday night "if necessary" game and that's your indictment of the fanbase? More to the topic of expansion thats your measure of demand for tickets?
Demand for season tickets at Olsen far outpaces supply even as prices go up annually. Thats a simple truth thats proved multiple times a year when people ask this exact question. There are people that have been waiting for years to get season tickets to A&M Baseball with no luck. It's almost certainly the hardest ticket in the athletic department. Demand is there, that's undeniable.
Demand for season tickets does not equate to demand for going to most baseball games. People want season tickets to guarantee they can go to the few most popular games a year that have the highest demand. They don't want season tickets to go to the whole season as evidenced by the rest of the season, and that's not a good reason for stadium expansion. If you want to talk about better ways to get unused seats into the hands of people that want them, I'm all for it, that is a legit problem. But we don't need a bigger stadium to have more empty seats for the vast majority of the games, there just isn't support for it across the whole season. And once there is, I'll be the first one in line banging the drum for expansion. I want nothing more than us consistently selling out a 15k stadium, because I love this team and this sport that much, but expansion means we need more fans to make this a commitment rather than a convenience.
Even Mississippi State has empty seats more often than people think.
I go to all of the games - even midweek. We have a decent showing for Tuesday games. The SEC weekends are full. It was great for tu (obviously) and Auburn.
Mississippi St has capacity for 15,000 and averages 11,000 per game so obviously there are plenty of games that are only at half capacity which makes sense
LOYAL AG said:Dr. Horrible said:LOYAL AG said:Dr. Horrible said:
We can't fill up for our own regional elimination game. Don't need to expand…
Again not remotely relevant and it's frustrating people are giving stars to posts that don't demonstrate any understanding of the topic at hand. Every game the Ags played last weekend was busting at the seems except the Monday night "if necessary" game and that's your indictment of the fanbase? More to the topic of expansion thats your measure of demand for tickets?
Demand for season tickets at Olsen far outpaces supply even as prices go up annually. Thats a simple truth thats proved multiple times a year when people ask this exact question. There are people that have been waiting for years to get season tickets to A&M Baseball with no luck. It's almost certainly the hardest ticket in the athletic department. Demand is there, that's undeniable.
Demand for season tickets does not equate to demand for going to most baseball games. People want season tickets to guarantee they can go to the few most popular games a year that have the highest demand. They don't want season tickets to go to the whole season as evidenced by the rest of the season, and that's not a good reason for stadium expansion. If you want to talk about better ways to get unused seats into the hands of people that want them, I'm all for it, that is a legit problem. But we don't need a bigger stadium to have more empty seats for the vast majority of the games, there just isn't support for it across the whole season. And once there is, I'll be the first one in line banging the drum for expansion. I want nothing more than us consistently selling out a 15k stadium, because I love this team and this sport that much, but expansion means we need more fans to make this a commitment rather than a convenience.
So your argument against increasing capacity is that current season ticket holders don't go to every game so the rest of the fanbase just gets left out? You're alone in that perspective. We've been debating this for years and I don't think I've ever seen that position so congrats, I guess.
Everyone has empty seats from time to time. We're no different than any other program in that regard. Watch Arkansas or State some time during the regular season and you'll see they look just like us. There's 30+ games a season, it's not practical to think everyone is going to make every game and we didn't build the capacity we have expecting that.
You build for the 7-10 games a year when you could name your number and you'd get that many to show up. If we had 12k permanent seats we'd fill that probably 8 times a year particularly in years like this one when we're flirting with the top 10 most of the season. Add 3000 more season tickets at something like $800 each and you're adding $2.4M to the top line. Thats just the simple truth and that's how these decisions are made.
I guess we are analyzing it the same way, just coming to different conclusions. You're not going to expend the extra 10's of millions to get $2.4 top line from an expansion. So agree, that's how the decisions are made.
dermdoc said:redsquirrelAG said:
Could anyone answer where we stand on season ticket availability and stadium expansion options?
All I will say is that I wouldn't hold my breath on a baseball stadium redo.
Yet threads on the other forum act as if it's a done deal.
LOYAL AG said:GigEm04 said:
Not needed til earley goes
Not even a little bit true but it always amusing when people state with such confidence things that are provably false. Demand continues to far outpace supply even as prices rise annually.
Sad two people gave you stars.
At least it was voted out. I'm so sick of that kind of garbage.
I don’t get enough credit for the things I manage not to say.
We have, for other regional/super regional games up until this year. And I know you know what a lot of fans were thinking about for a Monday night game, with this coach, with this pitching staff.Dr. Horrible said:
We can't fill up for our own regional elimination game. Don't need to expand…
Sean98 said:
So, cheap seats are needed... But cheap seats suck?
The berms fill a real niche which is why hundreds of stadiums in college and MiLB use them.
Not even close. Consider where College Station is located, and you're never going to have casual fans drive between 1 and 3 hours to watch a game from a grass berm, assuming they'll find a comfortable spot.
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