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The Marksman said:

Trev should be fired for how he handled the baseball head coaching situation these past few weeks
you know in defense of Trev...

he was expecting a couple of wins over Missouri (like everyone else)

such that a coaching change would be a non-issue
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Bunk Moreland said:

The Marksman said:

Trev should be fired for how he handled the baseball head coaching situation these past few weeks

What if it wasn't him, and he was just the message boy like the last AD?

First told to go see what's out there and has a short list we'd be willing to spend on. He does, then gets told "actually hold back, let's ride it out. the larger group feels expenses should be held in check" and then has to do an about face?
Probably, and that's the problem in its entirety.
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n/m

The above post might explain it......kinda.
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StinkyPinky said:

Bunk Moreland said:

The Marksman said:

Trev should be fired for how he handled the baseball head coaching situation these past few weeks

What if it wasn't him, and he was just the message boy like the last AD?

First told to go see what's out there and has a short list we'd be willing to spend on. He does, then gets told "actually hold back, let's ride it out. the larger group feels expenses should be held in check" and then has to do an about face?
Probably, and that's the problem in its entirety.
There is a lot of risk up in the air until the House settlement is approved. Lining up liabilities is a really bad idea because you can't hedge them.
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Pichael Thompson said:

Also what is the long term strategy w dumpster diving Trev?

Can we be done w this doofus once the books are in order?

sure once he gets his $11MM guaranteed - this is all just part of our systemic issues - loads of money but being spent with different goal in mind than winning.
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Bunk Moreland said:

The Marksman said:

Trev should be fired for how he handled the baseball head coaching situation these past few weeks

What if it wasn't him, and he was just the message boy like the last AD?

First told to go see what's out there and has a short list we'd be willing to spend on. He does, then gets told "actually hold back, let's ride it out. the larger group feels expenses should be held in check" and then has to do an about face?
I get the sentiment to not hold Trev accountable, but the elite ADs have a skill for aligning the donors to make the right hires. And for whatever reason we decided we needed a obey pincher when the market for buying players was limitless
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AgDad121619 said:

Bunk Moreland said:

The Marksman said:

Trev should be fired for how he handled the baseball head coaching situation these past few weeks

What if it wasn't him, and he was just the message boy like the last AD?

First told to go see what's out there and has a short list we'd be willing to spend on. He does, then gets told "actually hold back, let's ride it out. the larger group feels expenses should be held in check" and then has to do an about face?
I get the sentiment to not hold Trev accountable, but the elite ADs have a skill for aligning the donors to make the right hires. And for whatever reason we decided we needed a obey pincher when the market for buying players was limitless

I was never a supporter of his hiring and found the spin about him being some amazing ahead of his time AD prepared for the new era of revenue share quite disingenuous.

I also struggled to understand how he was hired to come in and keep finances in check when he was given the salary/contract he was.

I also struggled to understand why he and/or whoever was involved with Earley decided to dole out that idiotic contract to him.

I also think he probably either screwed himself up a bit in this process or he got caught having to talk out of both sides of his ass because the powers above him from different factions were giving opposing direction on what to do.

I'm just saying, if there was confusion above him sending conflicting messages then I wont' scorch him over this. There's plenty to keep an eye on with him and remain quite critical of.
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I don't know if he did or didn't, but Trev should have been in touch with O'Connor immediately after the Mizzou sweep. Quite frankly, considering the situation we were put in last year, Trev should not have given Earley that length of a guaranteed contract so it wouldn't be a big financial loss if we needed fire him and got the best coach. Also, maybe secretly talked to O'Connor back then (2024) about potentially coming in 2025.
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I feel the same way. The writing was on the wall with Trev and how he was viewing the situation. The money involved in all of the buyouts outweighed what he was willing to do to get the hire we deserve. Earley was never going anywhere. There should've been a clause for poor performance that would've negated any buyout. As I've said before, kudos to Earley for securing such a favorable contract at top tier school with ZERO head coaching experience.
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Yet again
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TexasRebel said:

KR sure is sticking to the stuff he made up.
Wait, are you serious?

We gave a hitting coach a four year guaranteed contract for $4 million. That's so dumb only A&M would do that.

The guy should have gotten a four year $500k deal with incentives. Nobody and I mean nobody was after him to be a head coach.

The absolute waste at A&M on coaches salaries is embarrassing. Good grief man.
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AgDad121619 said:

Pichael Thompson said:

Also what is the long term strategy w dumpster diving Trev?

Can we be done w this doofus once the books are in order?

sure once he gets his $11MM guaranteed - this is all just part of our systemic issues - loads of money but being spent with different goal in mind than winning.

We pay this guy $2.2 million per year and paid Nebraska $4 million.

The idiotic waste of our funds is mind bottling. No way an AD is worth wasting that kind of money on.

It's insane.
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He would've accepted the job for free! lol hyperbole but seriously, who is Earley's agent or does Trev hate TAMU athletics that much?
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HOBBSAG said:

He would've accepted the job for free! lol hyperbole but seriously, who is Earley's agent or does Trev hate TAMU athletics that much?
Our tradition of giving out fully guaranteed contracts goes back to Fran. At the time, he was a hot commodity and we "stole" him from Bama - but it was still virtually unheard of to give a 100 percent guaranteed contract. Since then it seems every contract we've handed out is guaranteed. Elko is the first football coach since Fran to not have 100 percent guaranteed - but it's still 75-80 percent, depending on how many years are left.
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Jace told Trev to make the contract like that for Earley. He's got his buds back.
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The problem was our big wigs stole Fran. (Egg in face) TCU was having success but we found out the hard way that Gary Patterson was the real coach. Our problem is we have BMAs but don;t have a real system for evaluating athletic personnel in depth and then just throw guaranteed money at a bad choices.
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I've been saying this for 20 years, the powers that be are far more interested in "one upping Texas" than giving the reins to someone who can actually win. They're afraid it might overshadow the "FTAB" at half time and we can't have that.
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DGrimesAg92 said:

I've been saying this for 20 years, the powers that be are far more interested in "one upping Texas" than giving the reins to someone who can actually win. They're afraid it might overshadow the "FTAB" at half time and we can't have that.


Simply put, we have rich guys great at doing other things. They CLEARLY are not good at running NCAA athletic departments but nobody will ever say no to those who are paying their paychecks
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DGrimesAg92 said:

I've been saying this for 20 years, the powers that be are far more interested in "one upping Texas" than giving the reins to someone who can actually win. They're afraid it might overshadow the "FTAB" at half time and we can't have that.


The schadenfreude at A&M is indeed off the charts. I agree that's the biggest problem we have in A&M athletics. No one with any real power and stroke in the university cares about anything but the Longhorns. It's sad and pathetic to watch, that's for sure.
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LB12Diamond
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Did you mean the ones with power and stroke only care about the Longhorns?
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12Power said:

I don't know if he did or didn't, but Trev should have been in touch with O'Connor immediately after the Mizzou sweep. Quite frankly, considering the situation we were put in last year, Trev should not have given Earley that length of a guaranteed contract so it wouldn't be a big financial loss if we needed fire him and got the best coach. Also, maybe secretly talked to O'Connor back then (2024) about potentially coming in 2025.

My guess is,he was off the market mid season when Miss state fired their coach
LB12Diamond
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I agree. I think he has locked up prior to them firing their coach.
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LB12Diamond said:

Did you mean the ones with power and stroke only care about the Longhorns?

It certainly appears that way a lot of the time.

But those who hope in the LORD will renew their strength. They will soar on wings like eagles; they will run and not grow weary, they will walk and not be faint. Isaiah 40:31 (NIV)
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Most definitely. And sips react to us as well. Which makes us not making a move interesting with what the sips did last summer. Before I throw them totally under the bus for baseball decisions, I'm going to see what takes place next year.
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TexasRebel said:

But to break/report stuff you can't just say, "I heard this 'fact' from an unnamable reliable source that nobody can verify."

You have to take the info from that source and find verification that can be released while not tying back to the anonymous source. Not this "information from nowhere; just believe me" junk many writers put out today. It's irresponsible.
Unless I'm misreading you, that just isn't correct (I'm interpreting that as the writer has to find a corroborating source that CAN be named?).

Anonymous sources can be responsibly used, and do not have to be corroborated in a story by a named source. Take the Watergate story, for example. "Deep Throat" was not named until decades after.

Information from anonymous sources should be verified by the reporter, just like any source of information. But that doesn't mean that a named source is a requirement.

That said, neither Texags nor KR practice "serious" journalism from what I can tell. Certainly, saying "I'm hearing ___, trust me," doesn't cut it. If that's what you were actually saying, please ignore me!




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AgDad121619 said:

Bunk Moreland said:

The Marksman said:

Trev should be fired for how he handled the baseball head coaching situation these past few weeks

What if it wasn't him, and he was just the message boy like the last AD?

First told to go see what's out there and has a short list we'd be willing to spend on. He does, then gets told "actually hold back, let's ride it out. the larger group feels expenses should be held in check" and then has to do an about face?
I get the sentiment to not hold Trev accountable, but the elite ADs have a skill for aligning the donors to make the right hires. And for whatever reason we decided we needed a obey pincher when the market for buying players was limitless
Ohio State hired our last elite AD…hope that helps…
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Yes you were misreading me.

I never said "something the reader can verify" has to be a named person.

It's like the scene in My Cousin Vinnie where the lawyer can't do investigative work and the sheriff can't work for the lawyer… so the sheriff discovers new evidence "on a hunch", but that hunch was an anonymous tip.
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greg.w.h said:



Ohio State hired our last elite AD…hope that helps…
I would love to hear what Bjork told Ohio State about the Jimbo extension. There's no way they hired him unless he could pin that abomination on somebody else. I know the LSU/Woodward "justification" for it, but if he didn't have a good story as to why it wasn't his fault, I can't see him getting hired there.
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There's nothing to discuss. tOSU knows how it's done and they also know it was not Ross' decision.
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greg.w.h said:

AgDad121619 said:

Bunk Moreland said:

The Marksman said:

Trev should be fired for how he handled the baseball head coaching situation these past few weeks

What if it wasn't him, and he was just the message boy like the last AD?

First told to go see what's out there and has a short list we'd be willing to spend on. He does, then gets told "actually hold back, let's ride it out. the larger group feels expenses should be held in check" and then has to do an about face?
I get the sentiment to not hold Trev accountable, but the elite ADs have a skill for aligning the donors to make the right hires. And for whatever reason we decided we needed a obey pincher when the market for buying players was limitless
Ohio State hired our last elite AD…hope that helps…


Woodward? That was LSU.
TheDoctor
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We've been so bad for so long.

Trev may be part of the problem, but he's not the only problem.
 
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