What is this about?

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LB12Diamond
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Yes, of course we know ADs pander to the audience all the time. He clearly did that last summer when announcing the hiring of Earley with many of his statements.

Well at the time of him stating Economics would not be an issue, he had the green light to conduct a coaching search. He was looking at more than one coach. The economics were already known at that time. What changed was who they thought we might hire, O'Connor. He would have been the highest price of anyone. But once they found out State had him they changed course and yanked the carpet out from under Trev.

If they make the change next year, it's probably going to cost more now after this circus even with one more year of Earley's contract gone.
Wabs
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BMAs wanted someone with skins on the wall. Once that wasn't going to happen, the money "dried up".
Timberwolf
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mjschiller said:

NO one knows what truly transpired. NO ONE!
I bet Andrew Monaco does
CC00
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Timberwolf said:

mjschiller said:

NO one knows what truly transpired. NO ONE!
I bet Andrew Monaco does
Yes lots of people actually know. And subscriptions to D1 and TA pay those people to know and not tell you.
LB12Diamond
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Wabs said:

BMAs wanted someone with skins on the wall. Once that wasn't going to happen, the money "dried up".


Apparently, maybe it makes it easier to justify all the guaranteed contracts we hand out like candy.

Just make sure your AD also knows this one. It's not like he was hiding who he was interviewing from them.
Wabs
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LB12Diamond said:

Wabs said:

BMAs wanted someone with skins on the wall. Once that wasn't going to happen, the money "dried up".


Apparently

Just make sure your AD also knows this one. It's not like he was hiding who he was interviewing from them.
As I said before, this kind of stuff is par for the course over the past couple of decades or so.
LB12Diamond
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What are you talking about. It's not like we almost hired Mark Stoops.
LB12Diamond
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I used to hear stories of the power struggle between the Houston BMAs and the Dallas BMAs.

Dallas side hired Fran
Not sure who hired Sherman
Houston side hired Sumlin
Houston side hired Jimbo
Not sure who pushed for Elko
Sgt. Schultz
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Wattson Stumjack said:

HoustonAg2106 said:

Trev is the one who gave him the guaranteed contract, he's just as much to blame as anyone
These dumb contracts predate trev though and a couple of posters on that thread said this stuff is being okayed above AD's/President's head. One even said it was a specific donor/BOR member. I think it is more than that. It is an institutional problem at this point.
You mean a systemic or culture problem? I have said it before on many occasions. These are signs of a systemic or cultural problem with A&M. Its not just athletics. Look at the multiple fiascos at A&M leadership for the past (insert # here) years. We like to pride ourselves on being intelligent but we do some of the most dumbass things imaginable.
I know nothing!
The Marksman
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Trev should be fired for how he handled the baseball head coaching situation these past few weeks
Bunk Moreland
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The Marksman said:

Trev should be fired for how he handled the baseball head coaching situation these past few weeks

What if it wasn't him, and he was just the message boy like the last AD?

First told to go see what's out there and has a short list we'd be willing to spend on. He does, then gets told "actually hold back, let's ride it out. the larger group feels expenses should be held in check" and then has to do an about face?
HoustonAg2106
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Bunk Moreland said:

The Marksman said:

Trev should be fired for how he handled the baseball head coaching situation these past few weeks

What if it wasn't him, and he was just the message boy like the last AD?

First told to go see what's out there and has a short list we'd be willing to spend on. He does, then gets told "actually hold back, let's ride it out. the larger group feels expenses should be held in check" and then has to do an about face?


I don't think it was a money issue, I think it's people behind the scenes not being happy with who our options were
LB12Diamond
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You are probably correct. However, If the requirement is already winning a NC, the options are pretty limited. The irony though, if that's the requirement this year, someone might need to remind them the present guy only has one year of experience and he finished 14 out of 16.
Joe Schillaci 48
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We need to get behind Earley. He will be our baseball coach for the next two years and probably three years.

Of course if oil goes up to $100 a barrel, all bets are off.
Timberwolf
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CC00 said:

Timberwolf said:

mjschiller said:

NO one knows what truly transpired. NO ONE!
I bet Andrew Monaco does
Yes lots of people actually know. And subscriptions to D1 and TA pay those people to know and not tell you.
Just curious, what is D1. And I would bet Premium subscribers really dont know what went down either.
Ghost of Bisbee
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D1 is Kendall Rogers version of TexAgs, for college baseball
Ghost of Bisbee
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What I wanna know is where is Brent Zwerneman in all of this? Pretty sure the dude played college baseball. I'd think he'd have the inside story
Jbob04
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He retired
Bunk Moreland
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Ghost of Bisbee said:

D1 is Kendall Rogers version of TexAgs, for college baseball

Unlike TexAgs, D1 baseball isn't beholden to a single entity/university that drives their revenue. They're like any other media organization. If you want to keep your sources, you protect them. They provide far and away the best college baseball coverage out there, which is an incentive for major D1 universities to want to play nice and field accurate information to them, as well as have a working relationship to ask to have their name held back in return for their honest thoughts and opinions.
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Wabs said:

OldFox61 said:

So what was the cost of hiring a new coach?
Cost of buying out Earley and his assistants +
Cost of buying out a new coach and his assistants (possibly very high)

It's no wonder TA backed off.


The problem is that it won't be substantially less to do this next offseason either.
And now the AD has burned some bridges as well.
Killzone3abc
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There are a ton of smart Aggies. We don't put many of them in leadership positions.
CC00
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Timberwolf said:

CC00 said:

Timberwolf said:

mjschiller said:

NO one knows what truly transpired. NO ONE!
I bet Andrew Monaco does
Yes lots of people actually know. And subscriptions to D1 and TA pay those people to know and not tell you.
Just curious, what is D1. And I would bet Premium subscribers really dont know what went down either.
We are agreeing. Paying that subscription keeps THEM in a job where THEY are in the know, not the subscribers.

And people have noted D1 is not beholden to one school. But if he leaks what coaches speak to who behind closed doors (especially if those don't pan out) then he'll get cut off in the industry as well.

So then the question is, why mention you know things that you won't tell? I'm sure its incredibly hard not to do that. Posters on here do it all the time.
Morbo the Annihilator
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IYKYK:


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AgRyan04
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AggieNattie said:

The 2 candidates Kendall was indicating were Vaughn and Godwin for those wondering.


Interesting. He is making accusations of schools tampering with players while he was in talks with us?

https://www.on3.com/news/cliff-godwin-exposes-tampering-across-college-baseball-we-have-proof/
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Dirt 05
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The athletic department ran a $22 million dollar surplus last year (2024). The AD had at least that much to work with. 2025-2026 season is going to have some uncertainties with how NIL payments and scholarships will work, but the Jimbo buyout amount is lower YoY and it will have ~$20 mm from the new deal with Playfly - but not sure how much of an increase that will increase vs the old deal with Learfield sports.

Money isn't the issue.

https://www.kbtx.com/2025/02/01/texas-am-athletics-made-227-million-net-revenue-during-fiscal-year-2024/
AgRyan04
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I'm pretty sure Trev himself said money wasn't going to be a factor!
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Wabs
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AgRyan04 said:

AggieNattie said:

The 2 candidates Kendall was indicating were Vaughn and Godwin for those wondering.


Interesting. He is making accusations of schools tampering with players while he was in talks with us?

https://www.on3.com/news/cliff-godwin-exposes-tampering-across-college-baseball-we-have-proof/
Is his nickname Capt Obvious? Everyone knows this happens all the time now. It's the new normal. And who's going to do anything about it? The NCAA?? LOLOLOLOLOL.
Wabs
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AgRyan04 said:

I'm pretty sure Trev himself said money wasn't going to be a factor!
To complete that sentence Trev should have said: "economics will not be an issue if the coaches the BMAs want are interested in coming here. Otherwise, I'm going to do what they hired me to do and pinch pennies".
TexasRebel
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But to break/report stuff you can't just say, "I heard this 'fact' from an unnamable reliable source that nobody can verify."

You have to take the info from that source and find verification that can be released while not tying back to the anonymous source. Not this "information from nowhere; just believe me" junk many writers put out today. It's irresponsible.
Killzone3abc
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Both would have been significant upgrades
Bunk Moreland
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TexasRebel said:

But to break/report stuff you can't just say, "I heard this 'fact' from an unnamable reliable source that nobody can verify."

You have to take the info from that source and find verification that can be released while not tying back to the anonymous source. Not this "information from nowhere; just believe me" junk many writers put out today. It's irresponsible.

Actually you can, and people do it across all media outlets there are. For example, had Vaughn been the one who told him "they just stopped talking to me" (very likely the source), there's no chance in hell Rogers could report that news by saying "Rob Vaughn told me he was ready to go, but A&M just ghosted him during the process."

He'd never be fed a quote again in his life. How can you be so dense, other than intentionally being this dense?

The same way Brent reported what turned out to be very much fact regarding Sumlin's final season because everyone knew he had ties to the AD and possibly as high as Sharp. He's not going to say "John Sharp told me Sumlin is done and the search is on"
LB12Diamond
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Killzone3abc said:

Both would have been significant upgrades


Killzone

You would have been an upgrade.
TexasRebel
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Right. So once the reporter knows it is fact but unverifiable to the audience, it's the reporters duty to secure verification that can be released before reporting what is up to this point a rumor.

What you're describing is lazy, irresponsible journalism.
Bunk Moreland
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TexasRebel said:

Right. So once the reporter knows it is fact but unverifiable to the audience, it's the reporters duty to secure verification that can be released before reporting what is up to this point a rumor.

What you're describing is lazy, irresponsible journalism.

I'm describing reality. It's up to you to believe or not believe a journalist.
TexasRebel
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Geez. Society is toast.

No.
It's up to the journalist to provide sources so the information they've gathered and presented can be independently verified.

If a news writer tells you that the sky is pink with green polka dots, aren't you going to look up outside yourself?
 
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