Good! I remembered JJ! But off the top of my head I didn't recognize the other names.
W said:
apparently the Hogs' dominant sweep of t.u. occurred in an alternate universe
sips (38-8) stay #1 in D1's poll
Arkansas (40-9) only moves up from #11 to #7
W said:
apparently the Hogs' dominant sweep of t.u. occurred in an alternate universe
sips (38-8) stay #1 in D1's poll
Arkansas (40-9) only moves up from #11 to #7
RED AG 98 said:
KR is responding to a thread on this in premium. The question is who do you replace them with, as 2 and 3 lost this weekend as well. He said it was LSU until the Sorrell homer... As it stands, they still have a full 2 game lead on #2 Arkansas in the toughest conference.
I don't have a major problem with it but of course it's sips that this happens to.
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I could not remember this happening and was about to call BS, but looked it up and you are right.jkag89 said:
I think some of the confusion might have come from the fact in the immediate aftermath of 9/11 they did place teams from the same conference in the same regional for a couple of seasons. I still have never seen anything definitive on this one way or the other on this but with all the discussion in game broadcast I still think they may move that way. But If anyone would know It would be Kendall.
It seems to me that mathematically, it's only a problem if you have a combination of more than 16 at any two levels. For example, if the SEC has 8 one seeds, then you could have 8 two seeds from the SEC and still not have any overlap because there would be 8 one seeds not from the SEC. You could have 9 one seeds from the SEC and still be OK as long as you had no more than 7 two seeds from the SEC.RED AG 98 said:
That makes sense. He said it was a rule but isn't sure how much longer it can last with the expanding power conferences. If we put 12 teams in the post season for example, and none can be paired in a regional, it's highly likely someone is getting hosed in seeding due to this rule.
The official policy is that all 2 seeds are considered equal, all 3 seeds equal, etc. Now, we all know that's not true in reality, and they might occasionally take that into consideration (mostly by not "punishing" a highly rated host team by sending them the highest rated 2), but they have that rule so as to make it easier to put the bracket together (and keep costs down).RED AG 98 said:
My thought process was more along the lines of non-SEC hosts getting a tougher regional due to following the rule than an SEC team getting hosed. I didn't really but a lot of thought into and I'm fine with it, just figured the rest of college ball would eventually want fewer paths for SEC teams to make it through.
Yep, and in my mind this compounds the issue in my scenario for potential non-sec hosts. You have stronger 2 and 3 seed SEC teams traveling because they can't be in regionals with nearby SEC 1s and 2s. Anyway, I thought it was interesting that he said it was in fact a rule and not just convention.twk said:The official policy is that all 2 seeds are considered equal, all 3 seeds equal, etc. Now, we all know that's not true in reality, and they might occasionally take that into consideration (mostly by not "punishing" a highly rated host team by sending them the highest rated 2), but they have that rule so as to make it easier to put the bracket together (and keep costs down).RED AG 98 said:
My thought process was more along the lines of non-SEC hosts getting a tougher regional due to following the rule than an SEC team getting hosed. I didn't really but a lot of thought into and I'm fine with it, just figured the rest of college ball would eventually want fewer paths for SEC teams to make it through.
Rice and Tech were not in the same conference.ColoradoMooseHerd said:I could not remember this happening and was about to call BS, but looked it up and you are right.jkag89 said:
I think some of the confusion might have come from the fact in the immediate aftermath of 9/11 they did place teams from the same conference in the same regional for a couple of seasons. I still have never seen anything definitive on this one way or the other on this but with all the discussion in game broadcast I still think they may move that way. But If anyone would know It would be Kendall.
In 2002, at least 4 conference rivals played each other in regionals
Alabama, Auburn
Texas, Baylor
Rice, Texas Tech
Cal St. Fullerton, Long Beach State.
In each case, the conference rivals were 1 & 2 seeds except for Cal St. Fullerton, which they were a 4 seed. Also in each regional, the two conference rivals did end up playing each other.
Learned something today.
khkman22 said:Rice and Tech were not in the same conference.ColoradoMooseHerd said:I could not remember this happening and was about to call BS, but looked it up and you are right.jkag89 said:
I think some of the confusion might have come from the fact in the immediate aftermath of 9/11 they did place teams from the same conference in the same regional for a couple of seasons. I still have never seen anything definitive on this one way or the other on this but with all the discussion in game broadcast I still think they may move that way. But If anyone would know It would be Kendall.
In 2002, at least 4 conference rivals played each other in regionals
Alabama, Auburn
Texas, Baylor
Rice, Texas Tech
Cal St. Fullerton, Long Beach State.
In each case, the conference rivals were 1 & 2 seeds except for Cal St. Fullerton, which they were a 4 seed. Also in each regional, the two conference rivals did end up playing each other.
Learned something today.