Opening series takeaways

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10:41p, 2/16/25
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I was surprised our starters were not on a lower pitch count. They will work out the kinks.

Patton looked good today and was a surprise. I did expect a bit more velocity, but it is early.

Friday batting was rough. Elon was throwing junk and slow. We will be ready.

Defense - catcher still. Not wild about being run on.

Still very early and we swept the series as expected.
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11:23p, 2/16/25
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If you're out on Binderup now, you were out on him before the season started. He was 3 for 7 at the plate with 1 HR, 2 RBI and 3 BB. Yes, defense was not up to par but 3 games in less than ideal conditions is a pretty short leash. I don't think he's a gold glove over there, but if he's serviceable at 1B he seems to be much-improved at the plate.

The really good news, as others have mentioned, is that Earley has a ton of options for filling out the lineup card with a damn salty offense and whatever defense he finds to work.

Any concerns I have are the same they were before the season started -- namely pitching and coaching. Offense is going to be good enough to keep us in most games. Will the pitching be good enough? And how will the new HC handle the role, strategy, in-game decision making?

In many ways I hate that this is the first unanimous #1 in program history, not that I'm not stoked for the kids but that seems unfair specifically to Earley. Yes we're good, but unanimous is quite strong in a sport where the polls often wildly disagree. There are so many great teams out there, many of whom we will face in league play.

Yeah I want us to learn how to handle success, and no I'm not scared... still kinda wish someone had us 3 or 5 or 10 or something.
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In reply to KT 90 • 3:07a, 2/17/25
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KT 90 said:
Mike88 said:
Section 203 back with a vengeance. The Mustard kid from Elon may be scarred for life.

I was there today, and that was funny. I almost felt sorry for the Mustard kid... almost
The way they did the Wehner "wiener" kid Saturday was hilarious

Kinda funny you have Wiener and Mustard on the same staff
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7:44a, 2/17/25
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My grades:

Starting pitching A: overall pretty good against a scrappy Elon team

Bullpen C+: gotta come in and throw strikes. The last thing you want from relievers is to give up free bases. This was probably the most frustrating area for me this weekend.

Defense C: hopefully this was a combo of first weekend, weather, new players, etc. But the defense didn't look good. Gotta figure out a solution at 1B.

Bats/Offense B+: slow to get going but finally got on track. Too many pops/flys. But it's going to be tough on opposing pitchers dealing with this lineup over a 3 game series.
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In reply to RED AG 98 • 7:53a, 2/17/25
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I don't think he's a gold glove over there, but if he's serviceable at 1B he seems to be much-improved at the plate.
It's one weekend, and could just be an anomaly, but he looked beyond shaky at first base. He couldn't even field pop ups (some were pointing out that Henseler called him off one of them, but I think that was because they told Henseler to get to anything he can with Binderup at first). He gave away about four outs over the weekend. He doesn't have to be great if he hits, but he's got to be better than he has looked to date, particularly if we have other options at the plate (like Kiel needing a spot in the lineup). Still plenty of time for improvement.
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In reply to KT 90 • 7:58a, 2/17/25
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KT 90 said:
The Weast Side of Kyle said:
Orrrrrrrr when Sorrell is back move Kiel to LF and Kash to 1B. Lots of options for Kiel, Kash, Grahovac, and Henseler to move around if needed!

Kiel OF/2B
Kash LF/1B
Grahovac 3B/OF
Henseler 2B/3B

Honestly may depend on the productivity we get from Binderup or Bergevin.

If Kiel continues to hit you have to find a spot for him somewhere to get his speed in the lineup. It'll sort itself out, but I was thinking today that once Sorrell returns the OF is Kiel-Jace-Sorrell, and move Kash to 1b.
Not only hit. Some of those plays in the field also highlighted his athleticism and instinct. Kid is a born player
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8:39a, 2/17/25
Although only 1st series of the season, lots of kinks on defense, catcher and bullpen. Bullpen 'could' have lost a game vs. a better team (emphasis, could have, not would have) and staff has plenty to work on there (figuring out some roles IMO).

Didn't feel like #1 team this wkend (but opening wkend) and I'd prefer we were ranked a bit lower with something to chase vs. chased indirectly.

Definitely a WIP (as it should be opening wkend), but as coach stated, prefer winning and fixing stuff vs. losing and fixing stuff.
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In reply to TAMU1990 • 9:04a, 2/17/25
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BusterAg said:
We lost two in the sun today that we're routine pop ups with at least 3 players close enough to make the play when the ball hit the ground. Both should have been errors.


If no one puts a glove on it before it hits the ground it's booked as a hit.
What if the ball hits you on the forearm of your glove hand while you stand motionless underneath the ball. If that's an error, we should have had at least one.

If you are standing directly under the ball for a whole second, and it falls on the ground less than one foot in front of you, that is a hit? Maybe so, but seems counter-intuitive. If that's an error, we should have had at least two.

In both situations, we had at least 3 players in the vicinity to make the play. Whether or not it was booked as an error, they both should be treated as such in the post game skull session.
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In reply to BusterAg • 10:48a, 2/17/25
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Are you taking about Blake missing a pop up? I did not see that but I heard about it when I got back in the stands. It's just a foul ball and it's technically not an error. The batter didn't get to base on that.

I thought you were talking about Elon. There was a ball that dropped between 3 Elon players in the OF. I believe Gavin hit that. But Elon was struggling all weekend to catch balls in the OF. Looked liked to be wind and communication issues.
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10:49a, 2/17/25
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Carolina Dogs are evidently really good.

Puerto Rico baseball > US baseball
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11:10a, 2/17/25
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Binderup may be the same guy he was last year. Too early to tell. We cannot give up that many outs at fjrst. Bergevin looks 10X more natural with the glove.

Patton made it look easy. Was very impressed with his confidence and control.

We have a TON to clean up on defense. Outfielders do not cover as much ground with Cash in left. Just have to get more fluid on the infield and communicate better. If Cash starts hitting, then you put him at first when Sorrell comes back.

TK2 has something. We might need to leave him in the lineup just for his smile and range in RF. His personality could help alleviate the pressure that will build on this team.

Kent still has the best at bats in the team. He was nice at SS.

I might consider Jamal George in RF. We are huge but I'm not sure how athletic we are. Sorrell, George, TK2 will help with that.

Sawyer Farr looked like a true freshman at the plate. Smooth in the field though.

Baker was nervous and needs more innings to figure out if he is going to help, or just be a guy with plus stuff that cannot get it over the plate consistently.

I am not convinced that Grahovac and Schott are 100% healthy.

Galloway is our everyday catcher.
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11:13a, 2/17/25
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It is a bit unfair to Binderup, but if you moved Kash to 1B and inserted Kiel you would vastly improve our defense at 2 positions.

Think of all the plays Sorrell made in LF last year that we are sacrificing by having Kash out there.

Kiel also had several excellent plays in the outfield that an average OFer would not have made. Plus his speed on the bases is just another weapon on offense.

With our schedule we can't afford to give up outs. Binderup was as advertised at the plate, but I don't think we should sacrifice fielding if we have other good options on the bench that provide a massive defensive boost.

Will be looking forward to hopefully watching him progress as a 1B over the next few weeks and make all of this a moot point.
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In reply to Fairview20 • 11:26a, 2/17/25
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Agreed on Blake. He'll get his shots over the next few weeks. Might be the toughest decision for Earley this spring, if it comes down to it.

One thing Schloss said last year was he can't be a fan.
Hopefully, Earley will have the same mentality.
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12:06p, 2/17/25
My Takeaways:
- Kent is who we thought he was after the end of the year. I was curious how he would look defensively at short and if the bat could be consistent all season long. After one series, I'm thinking that is what we can expect from him and I'm pumped about it.
- Patton was impressive. There was a lot of chatter about Patton and he lived up to the hype through his first start of the year.
- Kiel is going to be hard to keep off the field. Period. Kid is going to be special.
- Defensive concerns. I'll chalk most of this to early season rust. Main concern for me is 1st, but after looking at the stats, it looks like Bindy is 2nd in average and tied for first in OBP, which will make it hard to shuffle things. We'll see how this trend continues.
- Pitching. Starters looked good for the most part. Bullpen was a mixed bag, which it always is early. Some of the top bullpen arms weren't called on. That was apparently Rudis' first live action of the year.
- Bubbles. This will be an unpopular take, but I'll preface that I like the bubbles. They're fun, but I think we need to dial it back a bit or they'll be gone all together. I don't think it benefits the team to have a ton of bubbles flying on the playing field when the next batter is up.
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12:08p, 2/17/25
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Not sure anyone here needs it, but here's a reminder about how quirky baseball can be. Last year Wagner of NYC came to Olsen for the second weekend series. I think I remember that they hadn't been able to practice much or any outdoors. They got swept in their first series, giving up 46 runs in 3 games to North Carolina. Then the Aggies put up 17 against them on Friday night. Then Saturday night the Aggies won 2-0 with Aschenbeck pitching a four inning save.
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In reply to ReelAg6 • 12:19p, 2/17/25
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ReelAg6 said:
My Takeaways:
- Kent is who we thought he was after the end of the year. I was curious how he would look defensively at short and if the bat could be consistent all season long. After one series, I'm thinking that is what we can expect from him and I'm pumped about it.
- Patton was impressive. There was a lot of chatter about Patton and he lived up to the hype through his first start of the year.
- Kiel is going to be hard to keep off the field. Period. Kid is going to be special.
- Defensive concerns. I'll chalk most of this to early season rust. Main concern for me is 1st, but after looking at the stats, it looks like Bindy is 2nd in average and tied for first in OBP, which will make it hard to shuffle things. We'll see how this trend continues.
- Pitching. Starters looked good for the most part. Bullpen was a mixed bag, which it always is early. Some of the top bullpen arms weren't called on. That was apparently Rudis' first live action of the year.
- Bubbles. This will be an unpopular take, but I'll preface that I like the bubbles. They're fun, but I think we need to dial it back a bit or they'll be gone all together. I don't think it benefits the team to have a ton of bubbles flying on the playing field when the next batter is up.
Random question, but does anyone know where to find composite season stats so far? 12th Man doesn't have 2025 up yet.
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In reply to The Marksman • 12:21p, 2/17/25
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ReelAg6 said:
My Takeaways:
- Kent is who we thought he was after the end of the year. I was curious how he would look defensively at short and if the bat could be consistent all season long. After one series, I'm thinking that is what we can expect from him and I'm pumped about it.
- Patton was impressive. There was a lot of chatter about Patton and he lived up to the hype through his first start of the year.
- Kiel is going to be hard to keep off the field. Period. Kid is going to be special.
- Defensive concerns. I'll chalk most of this to early season rust. Main concern for me is 1st, but after looking at the stats, it looks like Bindy is 2nd in average and tied for first in OBP, which will make it hard to shuffle things. We'll see how this trend continues.
- Pitching. Starters looked good for the most part. Bullpen was a mixed bag, which it always is early. Some of the top bullpen arms weren't called on. That was apparently Rudis' first live action of the year.
- Bubbles. This will be an unpopular take, but I'll preface that I like the bubbles. They're fun, but I think we need to dial it back a bit or they'll be gone all together. I don't think it benefits the team to have a ton of bubbles flying on the playing field when the next batter is up.
Random question, but does anyone know where to find composite season stats so far? 12th Man doesn't have 2025 up yet.
Looks like it is updated as of this morning. Patton's ERA is updated.

https://12thman.com/sports/baseball/stats/2025
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In reply to ReelAg6 • 12:25p, 2/17/25
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ReelAg6 said:
The Marksman said:
ReelAg6 said:
My Takeaways:
- Kent is who we thought he was after the end of the year. I was curious how he would look defensively at short and if the bat could be consistent all season long. After one series, I'm thinking that is what we can expect from him and I'm pumped about it.
- Patton was impressive. There was a lot of chatter about Patton and he lived up to the hype through his first start of the year.
- Kiel is going to be hard to keep off the field. Period. Kid is going to be special.
- Defensive concerns. I'll chalk most of this to early season rust. Main concern for me is 1st, but after looking at the stats, it looks like Bindy is 2nd in average and tied for first in OBP, which will make it hard to shuffle things. We'll see how this trend continues.
- Pitching. Starters looked good for the most part. Bullpen was a mixed bag, which it always is early. Some of the top bullpen arms weren't called on. That was apparently Rudis' first live action of the year.
- Bubbles. This will be an unpopular take, but I'll preface that I like the bubbles. They're fun, but I think we need to dial it back a bit or they'll be gone all together. I don't think it benefits the team to have a ton of bubbles flying on the playing field when the next batter is up.
Random question, but does anyone know where to find composite season stats so far? 12th Man doesn't have 2025 up yet.
Looks like it is updated as of this morning. Patton's ERA is updated.

https://12thman.com/sports/baseball/stats/2025
Awesome, thank you
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In reply to OilAg01 • 12:43p, 2/17/25
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There were 2 errors maybe 3 that weren't official errors that lead to runs. Jace had 2 of them. Blake had another.
And Kash had possibly the worst one in LF
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In reply to TAMU1990 • 12:47p, 2/17/25
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BusterAg said:
We lost two in the sun today that we're routine pop ups with at least 3 players close enough to make the play when the ball hit the ground. Both should have been errors.


If no one puts a glove on it before it hits the ground it's booked as a hit.
Scorekeeper discretion. If it were little league I would agree, but regardless of whether the fielder puts a glove on it or not, those routine pop ups are errors at this level.

I'm not the least bit worried about this team. It was opening weekend, so some of that is to be expected. This team is gonna be GREAT!
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In reply to AggieBB • 12:49p, 2/17/25
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Yup…and I'd be shocked if that happens again. Can't remember the last time I saw an Aggie outfielder do it. I don't watch every game so maybe it happened last year.
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In reply to AggieBB • 1:18p, 2/17/25
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AggieBB said:
TAMU1990 said:
BusterAg said:
We lost two in the sun today that we're routine pop ups with at least 3 players close enough to make the play when the ball hit the ground. Both should have been errors.


If no one puts a glove on it before it hits the ground it's booked as a hit.
Scorekeeper discretion. If it were little league I would agree, but regardless of whether the fielder puts a glove on it or not, those routine pop ups are errors at this level.

I'm not the least bit worried about this team. It was opening weekend, so some of that is to be expected. This team is gonna be GREAT!
Correct. The standard is whether they play should be made with routine effort. Now, they usually won't give you an error if you lose it in the sun, but when you simply can't track a routine pop up, that should be an error.
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In reply to AggieBB • 1:24p, 2/17/25
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It's not an error BUT if that out is made, no runs are scored that inning (I think)… fact check me please
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1:25p, 2/17/25
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Sorrell - Jace - Kiel is the best defensive outfield

and it may be the best offensive outfield too

those three need to be the late-inning outfield at a minimum
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In reply to OilAg01 • 1:38p, 2/17/25
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There were 2 errors maybe 3 that weren't official errors that lead to runs. Jace had 2 of them. Blake had another.
If you're thinking that the pop-up behind 1st should've been an error on Binderup, you're mistaken.

1) Any pop-up behind 1st that is high enough for 2B (Hensler) to get to is the 2B's ball. It's a much easier play for 2B to run into the ball laterally as opposed to the 1B backing up into RF to get to the ball. Hensler overran it, but it's a new position for Hensler. As it's a new position for Binderup.

2) Any ball that is "misplayed" without essentially hitting the fielder in the glove is a HIT. All three were scored correctly, even if all three were arguably misplayed by either Jake or Hensler.
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In reply to CinchAG97 • 1:52p, 2/17/25
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OilAg01 said:
There were 2 errors maybe 3 that weren't official errors that lead to runs. Jace had 2 of them. Blake had another.
If you're thinking that the pop-up behind 1st should've been an error on Binderup, you're mistaken.

1) Any pop-up behind 1st that is high enough for 2B (Hensler) to get to is the 2B's ball. It's a much easier play for 2B to run into the ball laterally as opposed to the 1B backing up into RF to get to the ball. Hensler overran it, but it's a new position for Hensler. As it's a new position for Binderup.

2) Any ball that is "misplayed" without essentially hitting the fielder in the glove is a HIT. All three were scored correctly, even if all three were arguably misplayed by either Jake or Hensler.
That is a myth.

Quote:
It is not necessary that the fielder touch the ball to be charged with an error. If a ground ball goes through a fielder's legs or a fly ball falls untouched and, in the scorer's judgment, the fielder could have handled the ball with ordinary effort, the Official Scorer shall charge such fielder with an error. For example, the Official Scorer shall charge an infielder with an error when a ground ball passes to either side of such infielder if, in the Official Scorer's judgment, a fielder at that position making ordinary effort would have fielded such ground ball and retired a runner. The Official Scorer shall charge an outfielder with an error if such outfielder allows a fly ball to drop to the ground if, in the Official Scorer's judgment, an outfielder at that position making ordinary effort would have caught such fly ball.
https://baseballrulesacademy.com/official-rule/mlb/9-12-errors/
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1:59p, 2/17/25
Got it and thanks for the reference. So it's a judgement call by the official scorekeeper because there's no definition of "ordinary effort"?

A pop fly on a windy day that wasn't fielded by the infielders could be a hit. But, the same pop fly on a calm day that should've been fielded (per the opinion of the scorekeeper) might be scored an error. Am I tracking?

Another scenario that seems to occur is the pop fly where no one calls it and it falls directly between two infielders who both stop. Seems like per the reference, that's an error, but for some reason, I've always been told that it's a hit because it's a misplayed ball. Seems like I am wrong.
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In reply to CinchAG97 • 2:06p, 2/17/25
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Got it and thanks for the reference. So it's a judgement call by the official scorekeeper because there's no definition of "ordinary effort"?

A pop fly on a windy day that wasn't fielded by the infielders could be a hit. But, the same pop fly on a calm day that should've been fielded (per the opinion of the scorekeeper) might be scored an error. Am I tracking?

Another scenario that seems to occur is the pop fly where no one calls it and it falls directly between two infielders who both stop. Seems like per the reference, that's an error, but for some reason, I've always been told that it's a hit because it's a misplayed ball. Seems like I am wrong.
It's really rare that you charge an error when the fielder doesn't make contact, but it can happen. Like I said, losing the ball in the sun is usually not considered an error, with the sun as an intervening cause (like being hit by another fielder). But, simply not being able to track a little humpback pop up should probably be scored an error. In pro ball, the pitcher would have been lobbying the scorer post-game to charge the error because it led to a couple of runs that would have been unearned. Those judgment calls are why being the official scorer is not just a menial task--there's money at stake when you get to the top level.
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In reply to Sean98 • 2:07p, 2/17/25
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A lot to like this weekend. My concerns coming in remain my main concerns.

- Defense is not good yet. Lots of guys playing new positions + a few hitters that really don't seem to have a position.

- Middle relief has to be able to throw strikes. Consistently.

We're going to hit, probably at least 7 spots deep in the lineup. This weekend looked more like 9 deep.

I'd like one RHP to step up to challenge for a weekend rotation spot.
Spot on.

Defense might improve, it might be what it is.

I'm hoping getting a couple missing relief arms back will help that.

Offense and starting pitching are going to have to carry this team. But I don't like going all lefties for the weekend rotation. Would prefer a righty on Saturday if possible. Then again your best 3 is more important.

This is going to sound dumb, but my only concern with this offense is them getting obsessed with slugging and not working the counts and showing good situational hitting. It can happen when Jace and some of the guys starting really launching HRs at the rate we think they will.
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In reply to KT 90 • 2:13p, 2/17/25
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KT 90 said:
The Weast Side of Kyle said:
Orrrrrrrr when Sorrell is back move Kiel to LF and Kash to 1B. Lots of options for Kiel, Kash, Grahovac, and Henseler to move around if needed!

Kiel OF/2B
Kash LF/1B
Grahovac 3B/OF
Henseler 2B/3B

Honestly may depend on the productivity we get from Binderup or Bergevin.

If Kiel continues to hit you have to find a spot for him somewhere to get his speed in the lineup. It'll sort itself out, but I was thinking today that once Sorrell returns the OF is Kiel-Jace-Sorrell, and move Kash to 1b.
Kiel and Sorrell's speed are both needed.
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In reply to twk • 2:16p, 2/17/25
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I don't think he's a gold glove over there, but if he's serviceable at 1B he seems to be much-improved at the plate.
It's one weekend, and could just be an anomaly, but he looked beyond shaky at first base. He couldn't even field pop ups (some were pointing out that Henseler called him off one of them, but I think that was because they told Henseler to get to anything he can with Binderup at first). He gave away about four outs over the weekend. He doesn't have to be great if he hits, but he's got to be better than he has looked to date, particularly if we have other options at the plate (like Kiel needing a spot in the lineup). Still plenty of time for improvement.
All true.

Just keep in mind that winds is a tough wind for 1st baseman. When it warms up it should switch and hold balls up easier to the field.

Elon looked like little league trying to field fly balls in that wind too.
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3:07p, 2/17/25
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D1 Baseball has a nice stat sheet

Yes, the thought of Binderup having to dig out a bang bang throw to go to Omaha scares me more than I like, but he has a whole season to improve. He hit .429 with 3BB this weekend. He deserves more time before judgement.

I could see a path to end the season with Kash at 1B and Kiel in LF if the 1B defense becomes an issue. This is the beauty of depth though, we have pieces to play with.

Galloway impressed me going 4/8 with a HR and 4 RBIs.
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In reply to podge • 3:20p, 2/17/25
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podge said:
D1 Baseball has a nice stat sheet

Yes, the thought of Binderup having to dig out a bang bang throw to go to Omaha scares me more than I like, but he has a whole season to improve. He hit .429 with 3BB this weekend. He deserves more time before judgement.

I could see a path to end the season with Kash at 1B and Kiel in LF if the 1B defense becomes an issue. This is the beauty of depth though, we have pieces to play with.

Galloway impressed me going 4/8 with a HR and 4 RBIs.
He packs a punch for someone who is 5'9" & 175 lbs. He definitely proved he could hit at USC, and continuing to do so. I like what I see
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In reply to twk • 3:42p, 2/17/25
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I don't think he's a gold glove over there, but if he's serviceable at 1B he seems to be much-improved at the plate.
It's one weekend, and could just be an anomaly, but he looked beyond shaky at first base. He couldn't even field pop ups (some were pointing out that Henseler called him off one of them, but I think that was because they told Henseler to get to anything he can with Binderup at first). He gave away about four outs over the weekend. He doesn't have to be great if he hits, but he's got to be better than he has looked to date, particularly if we have other options at the plate (like Kiel needing a spot in the lineup). Still plenty of time for improvement.
I'm in full agreement, just stating that one weekend is a small sample. Our All-American presumed 1-1 pick badly misplayed a ball; Elon misplayed a dozen or more.

I am chalking it up to some combination of nerves, rust, poor communication, the elements, and of course just flat out mistakes. For me time will add the necessary clarity.

On the other end of the spectrum, and yes the small sample still applies, but I was beyond impressed with Kiel as well. He looked ready, the moment wasn't too big, and he's going to be tough to keep out of the lineup if he continues to play like that. As I said elsewhere, whether he starts or not I think he's going to play a lot.
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In reply to StinkyPinky • 3:59p, 2/17/25
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StinkyPinky said:
podge said:
D1 Baseball has a nice stat sheet

Yes, the thought of Binderup having to dig out a bang bang throw to go to Omaha scares me more than I like, but he has a whole season to improve. He hit .429 with 3BB this weekend. He deserves more time before judgement.

I could see a path to end the season with Kash at 1B and Kiel in LF if the 1B defense becomes an issue. This is the beauty of depth though, we have pieces to play with.

Galloway impressed me going 4/8 with a HR and 4 RBIs.
He packs a punch for someone who is 5'9" & 175 lbs. He definitely proved he could hit at USC, and continuing to do so. I like what I see


He was good behind the plate, gunned a runner, and imo had better ABs than Bear.

As much as I like TK2's bat, it's his youthful exuberance that may be needed more on this team. He and Schott can keep them loose.
TAMU ‘98 Ole Miss ‘21
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