What's yalls best guess? I expected him to go in the 1st 10 so idk anymore.
Camarillo Draft Round
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Keep in mind that some of the guys drafted in the 11th will get quite a bit more money than say senior signs in rounds 6-10.
1st pick of the 12th round. 346 overall pick. 100 spots behind his mlb.com ranking.
should have stayed
He probably will but he doesn't have to leave.
Lets see what his bonus is.zephyr88 said:
should have stayed
He isn't required to go pro.zephyr88 said:
should have stayed
he didn't / hasn't gone anywherezephyr88 said:
should have stayed
What's his NIL payday look like?
I'm not sure anyone really knows. He can get a 150k bonus without the A's dipping into their pool as a 12th round pick. No inside info, but I doubt he is getting that in NIL. Plus he would get his player salary from the A's as well.Aggie Dad 26 said:
What's his NIL payday look like?
Where'd he go?zephyr88 said:
should have stayed
Northgate. Damn kidsAggieBB said:Where'd he go?zephyr88 said:
should have stayed
ok, I'm confused.... (legit question)
I didn't think staying was an option once the player made themselves available for the draft.
I'd think that Camirillo (12/346) and Aschenbeck (13/392) could make more NIL than what they would get next year from MLB. Wouldn't you think they would stay?
I didn't think staying was an option once the player made themselves available for the draft.
I'd think that Camirillo (12/346) and Aschenbeck (13/392) could make more NIL than what they would get next year from MLB. Wouldn't you think they would stay?
He's from Cali right?
Maybe he goes cause he got picked by Oakland, but I don't know if anyone wants to live in Oakland right now
Maybe he goes cause he got picked by Oakland, but I don't know if anyone wants to live in Oakland right now
There is no such thing as "make yourself available to be drafted"
Baseball and football drafts are completely different.
Asch is likely out of eligibility unless granted a covid year exemption for his time at Blinn. Ali still has eligibility, but may decide to go pro instead.
The MLB draft is not a "have to" draft when it comes to being drafted. The #1 overall pick could, in theory, go back to school or if they are in high school, go to college. The MLB draft offers certain amount of money "slot value" and the player then weighs their options and decides what to do next. With NIL, those decisions aren't as easy as they were before
The MLB draft is not a "have to" draft when it comes to being drafted. The #1 overall pick could, in theory, go back to school or if they are in high school, go to college. The MLB draft offers certain amount of money "slot value" and the player then weighs their options and decides what to do next. With NIL, those decisions aren't as easy as they were before
Yup, I found a good explanation via Google. My first query had a different response. Sure would be nice to keep the band together, if that's what these young men want to do.trouble said:
Baseball and football drafts are completely different.
If I got drafted by Oakland, I think I'd come back for another year
So he doesn't have to leave, right?
Tell us you know nothing about NIL without telling us you know nothing about NIL.bdgol07 said:
With NIL, those decisions aren't as easy as they were before
Ronnie '88
zephyr88 said:
ok, I'm confused.... (legit question)
I didn't think staying was an option once the player made themselves available for the draft.
I'd think that Camirillo (12/346) and Aschenbeck (13/392) could make more NIL than what they would get next year from MLB. Wouldn't you think they would stay?
Look, somebody just started following college baseball.
Johnny Manziel was drafted too.
Weigman is actually draft eligible this year. Now wouldn't that be hilariouswell_endowed_ag said:zephyr88 said:
ok, I'm confused.... (legit question)
I didn't think staying was an option once the player made themselves available for the draft.
I'd think that Camirillo (12/346) and Aschenbeck (13/392) could make more NIL than what they would get next year from MLB. Wouldn't you think they would stay?
Look, somebody just started following college baseball.
Johnny Manziel was drafted too.
How so? If a player could make 100k in NIL and improve their draft stock, coming back for another year is a real question to be had.
bdgol07 said:
How so? If a player could make 100k in NIL and improve their draft stock, coming back for another year is a real question to be had.
Drafted seniors have no leverage and typically are offered a minimal signing bonus. No matter how much he improves or how much higher he is drafted next year, chances are good that he won't be offered as much next year as a senior.
Ray Baker said:bdgol07 said:
How so? If a player could make 100k in NIL and improve their draft stock, coming back for another year is a real question to be had.
Drafted seniors have no leverage and typically are offered a minimal signing bonus. No matter how much he improves or how much higher he is drafted next year, chances are good that he won't be offered as much next year as a senior.
Yeah, just look at what happened to Jake Mangum.
That may be true but he would spend the majority of his minor league career much closer to home
He'd have to put on a charlie condon type season to make up for his lack of leverage if he waited for next years draft. Age and leverage are big factors for the mlb draft.
I guess I am more of a pessimist/realist in thinking that making getting a larger sum of money one year, finishing a degree, and then going into the minors with a lower contract number is a better life path than starting, what is almost a sure minor league baseball career without a degree and a few extra dollars
That is just the 38yr old in me I guess.
That is just the 38yr old in me I guess.
It's NEVER been the case that you have to "declare" for the baseball draft, unlike in football. You can be drafted, decline to sign, and still play college baseball, and that has always been the case. If you sign with (and attend) a four year college out of high school, rather than taking a pro contract, you cannot be drafted again until you are 21 (for most players, their junior year).zephyr88 said:
ok, I'm confused.... (legit question)
I didn't think staying was an option once the player made themselves available for the draft.
I'd think that Camirillo (12/346) and Aschenbeck (13/392) could make more NIL than what they would get next year from MLB. Wouldn't you think they would stay?
The only thing that you have to do with the baseball draft regarding making yourself available is to fill out a form with some basic information that MLB sends to all prospects. If you don't send that form in, you won't be drafted, but you aren't "declaring" for the draft by sending it in.
Ray Baker said:bdgol07 said:
How so? If a player could make 100k in NIL and improve their draft stock, coming back for another year is a real question to be had.
Drafted seniors have no leverage and typically are offered a minimal signing bonus. No matter how much he improves or how much higher he is drafted next year, chances are good that he won't be offered as much next year as a senior.
Would that be true if he were able to move up to the 8 th round ?
Sq 17 said:Ray Baker said:bdgol07 said:
How so? If a player could make 100k in NIL and improve their draft stock, coming back for another year is a real question to be had.
Drafted seniors have no leverage and typically are offered a minimal signing bonus. No matter how much he improves or how much higher he is drafted next year, chances are good that he won't be offered as much next year as a senior.
Would that be true if he were able to move up to the 8 th round ?
If he was to be drafted in the 8th round next year as a senior sign he would likely get far less money than signing now. Signing bonuses for the MLB draft aren't linear. You'll have guys drafted in the 7th getting 10k and guys drafted in the 12th getting 400k.
Like I said, look at what happened to Jake Mangum.Sq 17 said:Ray Baker said:bdgol07 said:
How so? If a player could make 100k in NIL and improve their draft stock, coming back for another year is a real question to be had.
Drafted seniors have no leverage and typically are offered a minimal signing bonus. No matter how much he improves or how much higher he is drafted next year, chances are good that he won't be offered as much next year as a senior.
Would that be true if he were able to move up to the 8 th round ?
As a junior in 2018, he was drafted in the 32nd round and turned down a $300,000 signing bonus to come back to school.
As a senior the next year, he was drafted in the 4th round with a bonus of $20,000.
ensign_beedrill said:Like I said, look at what happened to Jake Mangum.Sq 17 said:Ray Baker said:bdgol07 said:
How so? If a player could make 100k in NIL and improve their draft stock, coming back for another year is a real question to be had.
Drafted seniors have no leverage and typically are offered a minimal signing bonus. No matter how much he improves or how much higher he is drafted next year, chances are good that he won't be offered as much next year as a senior.
Would that be true if he were able to move up to the 8 th round ?
As a junior in 2018, he was drafted in the 32nd round and turned down a $300,000 signing bonus to come back to school.
As a senior the next year, he was drafted in the 4th round with a bonus of $20,000.
In the business world we call that leverage
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