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*****Aggies @ Florida - Saturday*****
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Recency bias. We had blowups against RI and Sam. But aside from Sdao looking bad vs RI when I think he was mentally checked out because of the 8-0 lead all of the damage was done against guys that didn't make the travel roster.The Marksman said:I'm confused where you're getting this take from. Our ERA was at the top of the country coming into this series and pretty much all of UF's runs this series are off of our starters. Where is this "our bullpen is struggling" narrative coming from?bullard21k said:jkag89 said:While not exactly clean innings, they been very good this series.bullard21k said:
Our BP is scaring me lately
Lately doesn't mean just the last 2 days. And sdao has not looked sharp at all lately.
Stewart emerging as a dependable arm would be huge. We really need another guy who you can rely to come mid to late innings and slam the door to limit damage
Guys with very little experience that didn't pitch well and are currently sitting in B/CS won't get to impact the games in Gainesville.
I'm not even sure most of those guys traveled though
He's been their best this year. Historically he's really up and down. Power stuff but can come out and walk 5 guys in a row as well. He's been nails in '24 but that's still in him I think.themissinglink said:
Tomorrow will be tough. Caglianone is their best pitcher but they pitch him on Sunday so he can play 1B the first 2 games.
15.0-IP 5-H 3-ER 8-BB 27-SO
Gonna need a great outing from Lamkin
That's why I said they're sitting in B/CS darlin'trouble said:
I'm not even sure most of those guys traveled though
Sean98 said:That's why I said they're sitting in B/CS darlin'trouble said:
I'm not even sure most of those guys traveled though
I didn't finish reading your post. I'm sorry. I'll do better.
Sean98 said:He's been their best this year. Historically he's really up and down. Power stuff but can come out and walk 5 guys in a row as well. He's been nails in '24 but that's still in him I think.themissinglink said:
Tomorrow will be tough. Caglianone is their best pitcher but they pitch him on Sunday so he can play 1B the first 2 games.
15.0-IP 5-H 3-ER 8-BB 27-SO
Gonna need a great outing from Lamkin
Do they go sans DH when he pitches or do they leave him out of the batting lineup?
BadMoonRisin said:
Isn't it illegal to not move out of the way of a pitch?
Rule:
Quote:
When hit by a pitched ball at which the individual is not attempting to strike, the ball is immediately dead;
1) A batter may not make a movement to intentionally get hit by the pitch, regardless of the location of the pitch. The batter must also avoid being hit whenever possible, unless the pitch is within the batter's box occupied by the batter. If the batter's action is deemed intentional, then:
a) If the ball is in the strike zone when it touches the batter, or if the batter moves to intentionally get hit or freezes to allow a pitch that is not within the batter's box to hit them, the ball is dead, it shall be called a strike and the batter is not awarded first base.
b) If the ball is within the batter's box occupied by the batter and the batter makes no movement to intentionally get hit by the pitch, the batter is awarded first base. In other words, a batter who freezes inside the batter's box and who is hit by the pitch shall be awarded first base.
2) If the pitch is ball four, the batter shall be awarded first base and credited for being hit by the pitch (the ball is immediately dead).
I think it boils down to this: if a part of the batter is outside of the box, and that part is hit, he isn't protected -- he needs to get out of the way. He still might be awarded 1B if not deemed intentional and/or he tries to get out of the way, but he has to get out of the way in that situation. Batter inside the box, pitch inside the box, batter doesn't have any responsibility as long as he freezes or otherwise doesn't "try" to get hit. In the strike zone, its a strike, and no award.
This is a judgment call that I think can be reviewed.
Didn't you worry your pretty little heart. I'll just mansplain it to you and then you'll understand.trouble said:Sean98 said:That's why I said they're sitting in B/CS darlin'trouble said:
I'm not even sure most of those guys traveled though
I didn't finish reading your post. I'm sorry. I'll do better.
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He doesn't get to bat right?
I'd rather face him as a pitcher than a hitter. That takes a big bat out of their lineup
I'd rather face him as a pitcher than a hitter. That takes a big bat out of their lineup
I'm laughing too hard to pretend to be mad
The Marksman said:I'm confused where you're getting this take from. Our ERA was at the top of the country coming into this series and pretty much all of UF's runs this series are off of our starters. Where is this "our bullpen is struggling" narrative coming from?bullard21k said:jkag89 said:While not exactly clean innings, they been very good this series.bullard21k said:
Our BP is scaring me lately
Lately doesn't mean just the last 2 days. And sdao has not looked sharp at all lately.
Stewart emerging as a dependable arm would be huge. We really need another guy who you can rely to come mid to late innings and slam the door to limit damage
Our BP the past week hasn't been great.
The starting rotation ERA was also the top of the country coming into this weekend and has been completely slapped around
So while we have been good it's not like it's unheard of that we can at least be a little concerned that both the starters and BP numbers have been at least a little bit inflated due to a pretty weak schedule.
He gets to bat if they want him to.Randy Rhodes said:
He doesn't get to bat right?
I'd rather face him as a pitcher than a hitter. That takes a big bat out of their lineup
He will be the pitcher and the DH. If he gets relieved, he stays in the lineup as DHRandy Rhodes said:
He doesn't get to bat right?
I'd rather face him as a pitcher than a hitter. That takes a big bat out of their lineup
He bats, then moves to DH when they pull him. So they go without a DH to start.AgBQ-00 said:Sean98 said:He's been their best this year. Historically he's really up and down. Power stuff but can come out and walk 5 guys in a row as well. He's been nails in '24 but that's still in him I think.themissinglink said:
Tomorrow will be tough. Caglianone is their best pitcher but they pitch him on Sunday so he can play 1B the first 2 games.
15.0-IP 5-H 3-ER 8-BB 27-SO
Gonna need a great outing from Lamkin
Do they go sans DH when he pitches or do they leave him out of the batting lineup?
jkag89 said:He gets to bat if they want him to.Randy Rhodes said:
He doesn't get to bat right?
I'd rather face him as a pitcher than a hitter. That takes a big bat out of their lineup
I believe if they start with no DH they can not designate one later. Correct?
I'm not gonna lie. I wasn't mad that Garrison got hit
Nice win for the Ags!
Take the series tomorrow!
Take the series tomorrow!
Fair. I don't think any of us expect to be the #1 ERA staff this year. And I didn't expect Prager to go 0.00 even this far. But I didn't love what I've seen from our starters. BALL has really been flying this weekend though for both teams. And our bullpen has really kept us in games to give us a chance. For both pens to go scoreless 4, 5, 6, 7 & 8 was pretty amazing tonight.bullard21k said:The Marksman said:I'm confused where you're getting this take from. Our ERA was at the top of the country coming into this series and pretty much all of UF's runs this series are off of our starters. Where is this "our bullpen is struggling" narrative coming from?bullard21k said:jkag89 said:While not exactly clean innings, they been very good this series.bullard21k said:
Our BP is scaring me lately
Lately doesn't mean just the last 2 days. And sdao has not looked sharp at all lately.
Stewart emerging as a dependable arm would be huge. We really need another guy who you can rely to come mid to late innings and slam the door to limit damage
Our BP the past week hasn't been great.
The starting rotation ERA was also the top of the country coming into this weekend and has been completely slapped around
So while we have been good it's not like it's unheard of that we can at least be a little concerned that both the starters and BP numbers have been at least a little bit inflated due to a pretty weak schedule.
You have every right to be a little nervous. I think mostly you were the last to comment on the RP when a half dozen other chicken littles had declared our season was over because our relievers could get no outs against teams with a pulse.
He is the DH. Only time pitcher appears on a college lineup is when the DH is put in the field defensively.AgBQ-00 said:jkag89 said:He gets to bat if they want him to.Randy Rhodes said:
He doesn't get to bat right?
I'd rather face him as a pitcher than a hitter. That takes a big bat out of their lineup
I believe if they start with no DH they can not designate one later. Correct?
I don't know how they officially designate it but their box scores show him getting full game ABs and it lists him as P/DHAgBQ-00 said:jkag89 said:He gets to bat if they want him to.Randy Rhodes said:
He doesn't get to bat right?
I'd rather face him as a pitcher than a hitter. That takes a big bat out of their lineup
I believe if they start with no DH they can not designate one later. Correct?
You're superhumanTAMUallen said:GarryowenAg said:That's a bold statement, cotton. I'd much prefer him than the whistler.TAMUallen said:Daniel Plainview said:
That yelling Florida fan sounds like a winner.
I'm going to get bold here but if you are sitting in front of him, I'd say he'd be close to being as annoying as whistler
Whistler I can actually tune out a lot of times
I remember we did this with Stripling maybe? He'd go play outfield when he was relieved.
And then obviously Monty has the ability to do it. Two way guys are cool.
And then obviously Monty has the ability to do it. Two way guys are cool.
Sean98 said:Fair. I don't think any of us expect to be the #1 ERA staff this year. And I didn't expect Prager to go 0.00 even this far. But I didn't love what I've seen from our starters. BALL has really been flying this weekend though for both teams. And our bullpen has really kept us in games to give us a chance. For both pens to go scoreless 4, 5, 6, 7 & 8 was pretty amazing tonight.bullard21k said:The Marksman said:I'm confused where you're getting this take from. Our ERA was at the top of the country coming into this series and pretty much all of UF's runs this series are off of our starters. Where is this "our bullpen is struggling" narrative coming from?bullard21k said:jkag89 said:While not exactly clean innings, they been very good this series.bullard21k said:
Our BP is scaring me lately
Lately doesn't mean just the last 2 days. And sdao has not looked sharp at all lately.
Stewart emerging as a dependable arm would be huge. We really need another guy who you can rely to come mid to late innings and slam the door to limit damage
Our BP the past week hasn't been great.
The starting rotation ERA was also the top of the country coming into this weekend and has been completely slapped around
So while we have been good it's not like it's unheard of that we can at least be a little concerned that both the starters and BP numbers have been at least a little bit inflated due to a pretty weak schedule.
You have every right to be a little nervous. I think mostly you were the last to comment on the RP when a half dozen other chicken littles had declared our season was over because our relievers could get no outs against teams with a pulse.
I liked what I saw from Stewart tonight. Was in a complete jam and made some great pitches with movement and location even his off speed stuff.
Those types of pressure cookers on the road against a top 10 squad is going to pay dividends down the road
I don't recall this with Stripling. We've had a lot more position players come in as relievers (Pennington, etc) than we have starters who also played on their other days. There's been a free through the years for sure but none are immediately jumping to mind.Decay said:
I remember we did this with Stripling maybe? He'd go play outfield when he was relieved.
And then obviously Monty has the ability to do it. Two way guys are cool.
Rubber match tomorrow. Night everyone
What I've learned thus far:
Starting pitching is adequate, but far from elite. Both starters were hammered out of the game in 2.1 innings which is a full notch below not good. Tanner was particularly flat and elevated in the zone which = batting practice.
Bullpen is much improved and looking more like a strength this season vs last year's liability.
Appel and Schott should swap places in the batting order.
DH is a black hole. Schloss will earn his pay figuring this out. DH remains 0'fer the weekend. Targac has played himself out of the lineup. Who will step up?
Kent, who obviously struggled at the plate tonight, should start at either SS/2nd base depending upon Camarillo's OPS, but either one regardless. He's one of our best defenders and still hovering around .300. Good problem to have since we appear to be loaded with young talent who can slide into the 4 spot.
We don't have a pure first baseman, again (can't remember when last we did). Either we insert a hot bat over there to impersonate a first baseman or a below average hitter with a decent glove, but we are particularly poor at this position.
This team can go as far as the pitching will take us, and maybe a bit farther with an offense that could well average 8+ runs per game in SEC play. That's a long way. If we continue to improve in each phase of the game, this team could play for a natty. The potential is exciting enough to get a new stadium built.
Starting pitching is adequate, but far from elite. Both starters were hammered out of the game in 2.1 innings which is a full notch below not good. Tanner was particularly flat and elevated in the zone which = batting practice.
Bullpen is much improved and looking more like a strength this season vs last year's liability.
Appel and Schott should swap places in the batting order.
DH is a black hole. Schloss will earn his pay figuring this out. DH remains 0'fer the weekend. Targac has played himself out of the lineup. Who will step up?
Kent, who obviously struggled at the plate tonight, should start at either SS/2nd base depending upon Camarillo's OPS, but either one regardless. He's one of our best defenders and still hovering around .300. Good problem to have since we appear to be loaded with young talent who can slide into the 4 spot.
We don't have a pure first baseman, again (can't remember when last we did). Either we insert a hot bat over there to impersonate a first baseman or a below average hitter with a decent glove, but we are particularly poor at this position.
This team can go as far as the pitching will take us, and maybe a bit farther with an offense that could well average 8+ runs per game in SEC play. That's a long way. If we continue to improve in each phase of the game, this team could play for a natty. The potential is exciting enough to get a new stadium built.
Can probably get 1 or 2 more from Stewie too. His pitch count was only in the 30s. Monty if they feel good about him. Antolick is probably there too. Hell if we were really desperate both our starters only threw around 50 pitches (they likely did threw a bullpen to get that up after the fact tho). I also only have Rudis down for 29 yesterday so I'm sure he can go an inning or 2 if necessary.
Even in my arguing mood there's not much to argue with there. Pretty solid evaluation.
A&M has no chance tomorrow. Easy win for Florida
Why are you here?Randy Rhodes said:
A&M has no chance tomorrow. Easy win for Florida
Decay said:
I remember we did this with Stripling maybe? He'd go play outfield when he was relieved.
And then obviously Monty has the ability to do it. Two way guys are cool.
The last pitcher I remember playing both was Brooks Raley.
Sean98 said:I don't recall this with Stripling. We've had a lot more position players come in as relievers (Pennington, etc) than we have starters who also played on their other days. There's been a free through the years for sure but none are immediately jumping to mind.Decay said:
I remember we did this with Stripling maybe? He'd go play outfield when he was relieved.
And then obviously Monty has the ability to do it. Two way guys are cool.
Okay i looked at some rosters and saw Brooks Raley as OF/RHP. I swear we did it with Stripling too but it's been a while so no promises my memory is accurate.