BoozingAg said:
How the **** could anyone not have been on board with the Kennedy firing
I mean anyone besides chester
Money?
Politics?
Personal friendships?
Combinations thereof?
As for fans, there were dumbasses that wanted Kennedy retained
BoozingAg said:
How the **** could anyone not have been on board with the Kennedy firing
I mean anyone besides chester
Because we don't make as much money as they doBoozingAg said:
Why? Why do we have to do this every time? Why can't coaches just be held accountable for their performance without what BMA their friends with or go to church with coming into play?
TexasAGGIEinAR said:
Everyone shut the hell up with the Childress talk and stick to the actual subject of the thread. Go create another thread to talk about the same tired sh*t over and over again. We need a hitting coach. OM's just said no. Any others known to be on a short list? Thanks and please whine and make lame rebuttals to my disliking of every thread turning to Childress discussion.
BoozingAg said:
The fact Childress is a lame duck coach is why we just got rejected so I have no idea how you expect to not have a conversation about it
BoozingAg said:
The fact Childress is a lame duck coach is why we just got rejected so I have no idea how you expect to not have a conversation about it
One it was not near that low. Two if it was, it made the few that reached base all that more important, yes?BoozingAg said:jkag89 said:What!?!?!?! I thought only A&M snuffed out promising rallies on the base paths. well that is what one would think reading our game threads..Quote:
A lot of the replies, presumably Ole Miss fans, wanted Clement to get hired away the same way most of us wanted Rob to get hired away
Yeah not really with our .187 team BA we didn't really have enough base runners to get upset about that
I thought you would be happy that another RC buddy/crony would not be in the Aggie dugout,since that is exactly how you would be portraying this if Clement was returning to Olsen.BoozingAg said:
The fact a guy that's worked under RC before just turned him down really ought to be a wake up call to some of you.
jkag89 said:I thought you would be happy that another RC buddy/crony would not be in the Aggie dugout,since that is exactly how you would be portraying this if Clement was returning to Olsen.BoozingAg said:
The fact a guy that's worked under RC before just turned him down really ought to be a wake up call to some of you.
Sandman98 said:BoozingAg said:
The fact Childress is a lame duck coach is why we just got rejected so I have no idea how you expect to not have a conversation about it
If you were an Ole Miss guy you'd be asking that Bianco be fired. That assumes you're consistent in your measurements of head coaches and that you have a ****ing clue about what you're watching.
Why do y'all ask this like it's some barometer on the value of my posts? I have no comment on the Ole Miss baseball program. I don't follow it closely enough to have any sort of real hard opinions on them, other than there is no way they should be any sort of measuring stick for us.Wicked Good Ag said:
So Boozing would you be asking for Bianco to be fired if you were an Ole Miss fan ??
Um no, simply showing how whatever happens in this you find a way to put a negative spin on things or twist it to fit your version of events.BoozingAg said:jkag89 said:I thought you would be happy that another RC buddy/crony would not be in the Aggie dugout,since that is exactly how you would be portraying this if Clement was returning to Olsen.BoozingAg said:
The fact a guy that's worked under RC before just turned him down really ought to be a wake up call to some of you.
Strawman
BoozingAg said:Why do y'all ask this like it's some barometer on the value of my posts? I have no comment on the Ole Miss baseball program. I don't follow it closely enough to have any sort of real hard opinions on them, other than there is no way they should be any sort of measuring stick for us.Wicked Good Ag said:
So Boozing would you be asking for Bianco to be fired if you were an Ole Miss fan ??
Maybe he's happy where he is and he doesn't want to go through packing up and moving his family just to take the same job he has now only at a different school.BoozingAg said:
The fact a guy that's worked under RC before just turned him down really ought to be a wake up call to some of you.
On the other hand nothing else has been so I doubt this will be either
His wife must have hated her time in aggieland to not want to return.ftworthag02 said:
So we're not as a high demand program as you might think. Or the wife shot it down
Yeah, you never do that.jkag89 said:Um no, simply showing how whatever happens in this you find a way to put a negative spin on things or twist it to fit your version of events.BoozingAg said:jkag89 said:I thought you would be happy that another RC buddy/crony would not be in the Aggie dugout,since that is exactly how you would be portraying this if Clement was returning to Olsen.BoozingAg said:
The fact a guy that's worked under RC before just turned him down really ought to be a wake up call to some of you.
Strawman
Why did you only go back to 2015 and not 2013, our first season in the SEC?Wicked Good Ag said:BoozingAg said:Why do y'all ask this like it's some barometer on the value of my posts? I have no comment on the Ole Miss baseball program. I don't follow it closely enough to have any sort of real hard opinions on them, other than there is no way they should be any sort of measuring stick for us.Wicked Good Ag said:
So Boozing would you be asking for Bianco to be fired if you were an Ole Miss fan ??
I ask because it helps to make decisions when not biased based upon being a fan first.
I have been on record saying not sure about firing Childress because I think the hitting has been the issue.
If you go straight by the numbers of post season we finished
2015. 9th
2016. 9th
2017. 7th
2018. 33rd
2019. 17th.
Now these are all ties and really not indicative of actual totality of the seasons.
For instance our metrics in 2015 and 2016 would have put us in the top of the CWS participants but missed by two tough games
2017 our metrics put us last at the CWS which is where we finished
If you see a downhill pattern in the last two years then I clearly see problems but I also saw the problems being on the offensive side and Childress gives autonomy to assistants in that regard. Maybe as the head coach he shouldn't do that but I also think a new hitting coach might very well be a huge benefit to the program
Not really - especially given the context of the quotes. I get it, you will argue with anybody that thinks it's time for RC to leave, no matter the circumstance or context. It's what you do.Aggies2009 said:The concept of "burden of proof" exists as a philosophical idea, not only in a courtroom lmaoschmellba99 said:I know exactly how it works. But this isn't the courtroom, now is it. And if such a vehement refute to a message board claim comes so quickly, my message board legaleese ass feels like I can ask such a question. Which I can. And I did.Aggies2009 said:I don't know if you know how burden of proof works, but it usually is the responsibility of the person who makes a claim.schmellba99 said:Along the same vein, prove he wasn't on the hot seat.chester said:
Never saw this reported anywhere. Prove it!
Quoting your anti-Childress friends' rants is not proof.
That said, I think Childress is definitely on the "hot seat" in that if he doesn't do something next season, he won't be back the year after because of the way his contract is set up.
You can ask someone to prove a negative, but it's a very bad argument tactic that anyone with any basic understanding of logic will look at and dismiss. Your call, though!
LSU with Aranda - first right of refusal. It is one of the things (along with pay, let's not beat around the bush) that kept him in Baton Rouge when we were pursuing him.Aggies2009 said:Has anyone ever hired an assistant and told them, "If the head coach is fired next year, you're the new head coach"? Seems like a weird idea that wouldn't work, but could be what we're going for with MC.twk said:For a coach that thinks he is one move away from a head coaching job, this is actually a real attractive situation. You know what we're going to have on the mound. All you've got to do is turn one of the worst offensive clubs in D1 into a mediocre or better club, and you'll get the credit for turning the team around. Is there a risk it could go south? Sure, but a guy that is confident in his abilities, and given enough rein by the head coach, would see this as a real opportunity.schmellba99 said:Depends - maybe he and Bjork have a good working history and his coming here gives him a leg up on being the next in line?Captain Pablo said:
Surprised Clement would consider coming here, given that Rob is on the hot seat
I have no idea if that is true, just thinking about a reason why a guy could take a gamble on going to a program where the head coaching seat is, at least by most outward appearances, on somewhat shaky ground. I know nothing about Clement, maybe he's a gambler and wants to move up, maybe he thinks about it and says thanks but no thanks.
Wicked Good Ag said:BoozingAg said:Why do y'all ask this like it's some barometer on the value of my posts? I have no comment on the Ole Miss baseball program. I don't follow it closely enough to have any sort of real hard opinions on them, other than there is no way they should be any sort of measuring stick for us.Wicked Good Ag said:
So Boozing would you be asking for Bianco to be fired if you were an Ole Miss fan ??
I ask because it helps to make decisions when not biased based upon being a fan first.
I have been on record saying not sure about firing Childress because I think the hitting has been the issue.
If you go straight by the numbers of post season we finished
2015. 9th
2016. 9th
2017. 7th
2018. 33rd
2019. 17th.
Now these are all ties and really not indicative of actual totality of the seasons.
For instance our metrics in 2015 and 2016 would have put us in the top of the CWS participants but missed by two tough games
2017 our metrics put us last at the CWS which is where we finished
If you see a downhill pattern in the last two years then I clearly see problems but I also saw the problems being on the offensive side and Childress gives autonomy to assistants in that regard. Maybe as the head coach he shouldn't do that but I also think a new hitting coach might very well be a huge benefit to the program
BoozingAg said:Why did you only go back to 2015 and not 2013, our first season in the SEC?Wicked Good Ag said:BoozingAg said:Why do y'all ask this like it's some barometer on the value of my posts? I have no comment on the Ole Miss baseball program. I don't follow it closely enough to have any sort of real hard opinions on them, other than there is no way they should be any sort of measuring stick for us.Wicked Good Ag said:
So Boozing would you be asking for Bianco to be fired if you were an Ole Miss fan ??
I ask because it helps to make decisions when not biased based upon being a fan first.
I have been on record saying not sure about firing Childress because I think the hitting has been the issue.
If you go straight by the numbers of post season we finished
2015. 9th
2016. 9th
2017. 7th
2018. 33rd
2019. 17th.
Now these are all ties and really not indicative of actual totality of the seasons.
For instance our metrics in 2015 and 2016 would have put us in the top of the CWS participants but missed by two tough games
2017 our metrics put us last at the CWS which is where we finished
If you see a downhill pattern in the last two years then I clearly see problems but I also saw the problems being on the offensive side and Childress gives autonomy to assistants in that regard. Maybe as the head coach he shouldn't do that but I also think a new hitting coach might very well be a huge benefit to the program
And yes that's absolutely a loaded question.
BoozingAg said:
You think we finished 17th in seasons in which we were a 3 seed? I mean using the same logic you could just as easily say we finished 48th.
LOL
under appreciated post.AgEng06 said:powerbelly said:RC's job status is germane to hiring a new hitting coach.Wicked Good Ag said:
I am so glad that the thread about a new potential hitting coach has at least 30% of the thread not dealing with Childress job status drama
Bolt initial two seasons in the SEC were also rather successful. We'll never know how you would actually have reacted to a Clement hire but it is rather safe to say the first rocky patch you would resort to your old standby, you are just to damn predictable.Quote:
Clement would've been different than his previous buddy hires. He's been in the SEC and been successful.
Wicked Good Ag said:BoozingAg said:
You think we finished 17th in seasons in which we were a 3 seed? I mean using the same logic you could just as easily say we finished 48th.
LOL
Regional finalist would be 17th
Or because we were a three seed in 17 then as a CWS participant we finished 48th ??
That's fudging the numbers quite a bit...what makes us the best regional finalist that lost in a regional those years?Wicked Good Ag said:BoozingAg said:
You think we finished 17th in seasons in which we were a 3 seed? I mean using the same logic you could just as easily say we finished 48th.
LOL
Regional finalist would be 17th
Or because we were a three seed in 17 then as a CWS participant we finished 48th ??
schmellba99 said:Not really - especially given the context of the quotes. I get it, you will argue with anybody that thinks it's time for RC to leave, no matter the circumstance or context. It's what you do.Aggies2009 said:The concept of "burden of proof" exists as a philosophical idea, not only in a courtroom lmaoschmellba99 said:I know exactly how it works. But this isn't the courtroom, now is it. And if such a vehement refute to a message board claim comes so quickly, my message board legaleese ass feels like I can ask such a question. Which I can. And I did.Aggies2009 said:I don't know if you know how burden of proof works, but it usually is the responsibility of the person who makes a claim.schmellba99 said:Along the same vein, prove he wasn't on the hot seat.chester said:
Never saw this reported anywhere. Prove it!
Quoting your anti-Childress friends' rants is not proof.
That said, I think Childress is definitely on the "hot seat" in that if he doesn't do something next season, he won't be back the year after because of the way his contract is set up.
You can ask someone to prove a negative, but it's a very bad argument tactic that anyone with any basic understanding of logic will look at and dismiss. Your call, though!