Very poor leader of the Aggie Baseballers. Coach Childress needs to move on hopefully this month. I find it hard to believe that tu, Texas Tec, etc. make it to the College World Series and we are drinking cold beer on the summer circuit. Where is the true story about the many times Aggie baseball folded this year. Looked like the football team last year. Did I hear correctly that tu has been to Series 37 times and (not sure) we have been 5 times.

And all 36+ times were while Childress was coach. They be good

I am so sick of the "money whip" "we deserve it because of x and y"

We don't deserve ***** You earn it. If you don't think Childress can get the job done fine. If you think he has met his ceiling fine
But just stop *****ing every time something happens in college baseball like the world is going to end. And have a solution other than "well we pay someone to make those decisions" because if that is your answer then the decision has been made by that someone

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And all 36+ times were while Childress was coach. They be good

I am so sick of the "money whip" "we deserve it because of x and y"

We don't deserve ***** You earn it. If you don't think Childress can get the job done fine. If you think he has met his ceiling fine
But just stop *****ing every time something happens in college baseball like the world is going to end. And have a solution other than "well we pay someone to make those decisions" because if that is your answer then the decision has been made by that someone

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You mad

Not mad. Tired. Tired that every topic has evolved into a Childress thread. Every year like clockwork

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Very poor leader of the Aggie Baseballers. Coach Childress needs to move on hopefully this month. I find it hard to believe that tu, Texas Tec, etc. make it to the College World Series and we are drinking cold beer on the summer circuit. Where is the true story about the many times Aggie baseball folded this year. Looked like the football team last year. Did I hear correctly that tu has been to Series 37 times and (not sure) we have been 5 times.

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it's interesting that you choose tu and tech as our comparisons for success and not miss st, florida, or arkansas. woodward cited competing in the SEC as his measuring stick for success for jimbo. after next year if woodward makes a change he won't be talking about tech and tu. he'll be talking about the rest of our conference.

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Not mad. Tired. Tired that every topic has evolved into a Childress thread. Every year like clockwork

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Well what else do you want to talk about?

It's a big topic. It's a relevant topic. People want better, and you just need to get used to it. Don't read it if it bothers you

My final thought on the Texas aspect on all of this is:

1. They struggled mightily through the middle portion of their season. The Arkansas series really was the turning point, in that after they got everything handed to them in Fayette-Nam, they:

A. Bought into something
B. Played inspired and with a fire
C. Rallied together as a team
D. And now will play in the CWS under the leadership of a coach that is in his second year at the institution.
Nevermind the fact that he resembles a garden knome. Maybe they started rubbing his head after bp.


My final thought on our situation:

1. RC will be back next year, as he should be.
2. Next year, all the chips need to go into the middle of the table on the day that the team reports in January.
3. Play the hand ( expectations should be at least a CWS game won next year.).

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Where are all the 12th Man Foundation tags?

Weird.

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Throwing money at this crap is even worse!

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it's interesting that you choose tu and tech as our comparisons for success

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So you don't think Clemson and South Carolina should compare themselves to each other? What about FSU, Miami, and Florida? Penn State and Pitt? Iowa and Iowa State? Utah and BYU?

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it's interesting that you choose tu and tech as our comparisons for success

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So you don't think Clemson and South Carolina should compare themselves to each other? What about FSU, Miami, and Florida? Penn State and Pitt? Iowa and Iowa State? Utah and BYU?

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it's pretty simple. if you make it your goal to win the SEC and get a coach that thrives on competing in the SEC, the rest will follow...






or you could strive to be like tech and tu more i suppose and just make it to omaha.

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it's interesting that you choose tu and tech as our comparisons for success

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it's pretty simple. if you make it your goal to win the SEC and get a coach that thrives on competing in the SEC, the rest will follow...

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or you could strive to be like tech and tu more i suppose and just make it to omaha.

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Uh you do realize tu has more National Titles than the rest of the SEC combined minus LSU. LSU and tu are pretty much in their own category. I don't know about anybody else but 36 CWS appearances and 6 National Titles sounds pretty damn good. Tech can kick rocks.

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it's interesting that you choose tu and tech as our comparisons for success

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it's pretty simple. if you make it your goal to win the SEC and get a coach that thrives on competing in the SEC, the rest will follow...






or you could strive to be like tech and tu more i suppose and just make it to omaha.

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Or, be like A&M and strive to make a Regional every year

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it's interesting that you choose tu and tech as our comparisons for success

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it's pretty simple. if you make it your goal to win the SEC and get a coach that thrives on competing in the SEC, the rest will follow...






or you could strive to be like tech and tu more i suppose and just make it to omaha.

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Or, be like A&M and strive to make a Regional every year

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Ehh, that's a tired line. I'd rather shoot for the SEC title, and see what happens after that.

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it's interesting that you choose tu and tech as our comparisons for success

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it's pretty simple. if you make it your goal to win the SEC and get a coach that thrives on competing in the SEC, the rest will follow...






or you could strive to be like tech and tu more i suppose and just make it to omaha.

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Uh you do realize tu has more National Titles than the rest of the SEC combined minus LSU. LSU and tu are pretty much in their own category. I don't know about anybody else but 36 CWS appearances and 6 National Titles sounds pretty damn good. Tech can kick rocks.

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And you must realize that the SEC has almost as many championships since the last tu championship as tu does in its entire history. Strive to be like the programs that have won lately than the ones that did 30+ years ago. That's the formula for success in today's game.

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it's interesting that you choose tu and tech as our comparisons for success

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it's pretty simple. if you make it your goal to win the SEC and get a coach that thrives on competing in the SEC, the rest will follow...






or you could strive to be like tech and tu more i suppose and just make it to omaha.

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Uh you do realize tu has more National Titles than the rest of the SEC combined minus LSU. LSU and tu are pretty much in their own category. I don't know about anybody else but 36 CWS appearances and 6 National Titles sounds pretty damn good. Tech can kick rocks.

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And you must realize that the SEC has almost as many championships since the last tu championship as tu does in its entire history. Strive to be like the programs that have won lately than the ones that did 30+ years ago. That's the formula for success in today's game.

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That's just a weird post

What exactly is your point? Do you not think Rob and the players are "striving to win championships", whether it be conference or otherwise

What's the damn difference between "striving to be like the SEC champs" and "striving" to be like any other champion

Isn't the point to "strive" to win the games you play? regardless of who you play?

It's not that hes not "striving", it's that he's not getting it done

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it's interesting that you choose tu and tech as our comparisons for success

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it's pretty simple. if you make it your goal to win the SEC and get a coach that thrives on competing in the SEC, the rest will follow...






or you could strive to be like tech and tu more i suppose and just make it to omaha.

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Uh you do realize tu has more National Titles than the rest of the SEC combined minus LSU. LSU and tu are pretty much in their own category. I don't know about anybody else but 36 CWS appearances and 6 National Titles sounds pretty damn good. Tech can kick rocks.

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And you must realize that the SEC has almost as many championships since the last tu championship as tu does in its entire history. Strive to be like the programs that have won lately than the ones that did 30+ years ago. That's the formula for success in today's game.

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That's just a weird post

What exactly is your point? Do you not think Rob and the players are "striving to win championships", whether it be conference or otherwise

What's the damn difference between "striving to be like the SEC champs" and "striving" to be like any other champion

Isn't the point to "strive" to win the games you play? regardless of who you play?

It's not that hes not "striving", it's that he's not getting it done

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The point is, given our current station in the SEC, and given that the SEC has produced a national champion 5 times since 2009, it seems that we should measure ourselves first against our SEC mates before the likes of tu of tech.

As usual, you're just here to bash RC; which is somewhat related to my point, but not completely.

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Or you could strive to win a national championship and get a coach that thrives on competing nationally and you'll probably pick up some SEC championships along the way.


By the way, South Carolina won the 2010 national championship without winning any SEC titles. They finished 2nd in their division, 3rd overall, and went 0-2 in the SEC tournament.

Vanderbilt won the 2014 national championship having finished 3rd in their division and going 1-2 at the SEC Tournament.

And no one cares about or remembers any of those failures.

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it's pretty simple. if you make it your goal to win the SEC and get a coach that thrives on competing in the SEC, the rest will follow...






or you could strive to be like tech and tu more i suppose and just make it to omaha.

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Or you could strive to win a national championship and get a coach that thrives on competing nationally and you'll probably pick up some SEC championships along the way.


By the way, South Carolina won the 2010 national championship without winning any SEC titles. They finished 2nd in their division, 3rd overall, and went 0-2 in the SEC tournament.

Vanderbilt won the 2014 national championship having finished 3rd in their division and going 1-2 at the SEC Tournament.

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So you don't think competing against other SEC teams those years prepared those teams for national title runs? I think there's a correlation between competing in this conference and competing for a national title consistently. I think it's less so in the conferences like the big 12, and that's evidenced by national titles.

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it's interesting that you choose tu and tech as our comparisons for success

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it's pretty simple. if you make it your goal to win the SEC and get a coach that thrives on competing in the SEC, the rest will follow...






or you could strive to be like tech and tu more i suppose and just make it to omaha.

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Uh you do realize tu has more National Titles than the rest of the SEC combined minus LSU. LSU and tu are pretty much in their own category. I don't know about anybody else but 36 CWS appearances and 6 National Titles sounds pretty damn good. Tech can kick rocks.

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And you must realize that the SEC has almost as many championships since the last tu championship as tu does in its entire history. Strive to be like the programs that have won lately than the ones that did 30+ years ago. That's the formula for success in today's game.

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That's just a weird post

What exactly is your point? Do you not think Rob and the players are "striving to win championships", whether it be conference or otherwise

What's the damn difference between "striving to be like the SEC champs" and "striving" to be like any other champion

Isn't the point to "strive" to win the games you play? regardless of who you play?

It's not that hes not "striving", it's that he's not getting it done

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The point is, given our current station in the SEC, and given that the SEC has produced a national champion 5 times since 2009, it seems that we should measure ourselves first against our SEC mates before the likes of tu of tech.

As usual, you're just here to bash RC; which is somewhat related to my point, but not completely.

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LOL. I guess the "you don't post enough on game threads" strategy of discounting opinions fell flat. I expect the "you're striving to be better than the wrong teams" method will as well

And I didn't "bash" RC. Geez you're easily triggered. What are you, his mommy?

It is worth noting how other in-state programs are doing. They are our main recruiting adversaries.

As for RC, everybody has made their case and minds aren't gonna change

It doesn't matter. RC is going to be either extended or fired next season. And whether you "strive" to be like SEC teams, or "strive" or to outperform Texas teams doesn't matter

You need to just "strive" to beat the teams you play, and then go do it

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it's pretty simple. if you make it your goal to win the SEC and get a coach that thrives on competing in the SEC, the rest will follow...






or you could strive to be like tech and tu more i suppose and just make it to omaha.

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Or you could strive to win a national championship and get a coach that thrives on competing nationally and you'll probably pick up some SEC championships along the way.


By the way, South Carolina won the 2010 national championship without winning any SEC titles. They finished 2nd in their division, 3rd overall, and went 0-2 in the SEC tournament.

Vanderbilt won the 2014 national championship having finished 3rd in their division and going 1-2 at the SEC Tournament.

And no one cares about or remembers any of those failures.

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So you don't think competing against other SEC teams those years prepared those teams for national title runs? I think there's a correlation between competing in this conference and competing for a national title consistently. I think it's less so in the conferences like the big 12, and that's evidenced by national titles.

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I think there are better ballplayers in the SEC

That is primarily what accounts for their success

I am glad we are in the SEC, I think difficult competition in both non-conference play and conference play helps prepare for the post-season---the SEC certainly provides difficult conference games. I aspire to compete in every game we play.

But I measure baseball programs by, and my aspirations are focused on, the national level. That includes SEC schools but also will include other schools and Texas and elsewhere.




I think the frustration about TCU, Tech, and Texas around here has as much to do as anything with those in-state rivalries being real, meaningful, and still intense despite how often and where we play or don't play those schools.

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it's interesting that you choose tu and tech as our comparisons for success

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it's pretty simple. if you make it your goal to win the SEC and get a coach that thrives on competing in the SEC, the rest will follow...






or you could strive to be like tech and tu more i suppose and just make it to omaha.

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Uh you do realize tu has more National Titles than the rest of the SEC combined minus LSU. LSU and tu are pretty much in their own category. I don't know about anybody else but 36 CWS appearances and 6 National Titles sounds pretty damn good. Tech can kick rocks.

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And you must realize that the SEC has almost as many championships since the last tu championship as tu does in its entire history. Strive to be like the programs that have won lately than the ones that did 30+ years ago. That's the formula for success in today's game.

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That's just a weird post

What exactly is your point? Do you not think Rob and the players are "striving to win championships", whether it be conference or otherwise

What's the damn difference between "striving to be like the SEC champs" and "striving" to be like any other champion

Isn't the point to "strive" to win the games you play? regardless of who you play?

It's not that hes not "striving", it's that he's not getting it done

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The point is, given our current station in the SEC, and given that the SEC has produced a national champion 5 times since 2009, it seems that we should measure ourselves first against our SEC mates before the likes of tu of tech.

As usual, you're just here to bash RC; which is somewhat related to my point, but not completely.

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LOL. I guess the "you don't post enough on game threads" strategy of discounting opinions fell flat. I expect the "you're striving to be better than the wrong teams" methos will as well

And I didn't "bash" RC. Geez you're easily triggered. What are you, is mommy?

It is worth noting how other in-state programs are doing. They are our main recruiting adversaries.

As for RC, everybody has made their case and minds aren't gonna change

It doesn't matter. RC is going to be either extended or fired next season. And whether you "strive" to be like SEC teams, "strive" or to outperform Texas teams doesn't matter

You need to just "strive" to beat the teams you play, and then go do it

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I wasn't defending RC on this thread. You've got your finger quick on that I'm a victim of the game thread mafia trigger, of which I haven't professed to be on this thread.

We're in agreement on this next year being a make or break season. So, that's good.

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I am glad we are in the SEC, I think difficult competition in both non-conference play and conference play helps prepare for the post-season---the SEC certainly provides difficult conference games. I aspire to compete in every game we play.

But I measure baseball programs by, and my aspirations are focused on, the national level. That includes SEC schools but also will include other schools and Texas and elsewhere.




I think the frustration about TCU, Tech, and Texas around here has as much to do as anything with those in-state rivalries being real, meaningful, and still intense despite how often and where we play or don't play those schools.

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That's fair and addresses the broader issue of "just win". This argument has gotten blurred from its origin.

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Where are all the 12th Man Foundation tags?

Weird.

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Throwing money at this crap is even worse!

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So beeching on Texags gets things done? Cool I will stop giving money. I wonder if that works at the church and school too.

It's a Texags miracle!

ttu and tu driving nails in Corn's coffin.

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So beeching on Texags gets things done? Cool I will stop giving money. I wonder if that works at the church and school too.

It's a Texags miracle!

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Love the sarcasm.

If my church sucked and completely lost it's way, uh yeah, I'd certainly stop giving to it.

Fortunately mine has no evidence of doing so.

I'd give 10% of God's to another church.

So you used to give and got frustrated?

And if I thought my church had "lost its way" I would get involved and give more time and money to help it get back on track. Guess we are just different.

I for one can care less if the SEC does well or care less if an SEC team wins the CWS.

Similarly, I could care less when the Eagles won the SB.

The Eagles/SEC team winning a NC puts us more in the bottom Cellar. We are starting to sound like Vanderbilt who finds accomplishments in others in the conference doing well.

I do find it humorous that some here do not want to compare our program to TT or texas, while others think them doing well puts a nail in our sports coffin.

We are beginning to be a schizophrenic fanbase, very similar to Vanderbilt/Kansas.

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I for one can care less if the SEC does well or care less if an SEC team wins the CWS.

Similarly, I could care less when the Eagles won the SB.

The Eagles/SEC team winning a NC puts us more in the bottom Cellar. We are starting to sound like Vanderbilt who finds accomplishments in others in the conference doing well.

I do find it humorous that some here do not want to compare our program to TT or texas, while others think them doing well puts a nail in our sports coffin.

We are beginning to be a schizophrenic fanbase, very similar to Vanderbilt/Kansas.

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Can't

CAN'T care less

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So you used to give and got frustrated?

And if I thought my church had "lost its way" I would get involved and give more time and money to help it get back on track. Guess we are just different.

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Not everyone has your money, doctor

And most don't flaunt it like you do

What they have is a keyboard that enables them to give a simple opinion, which is no more or less valid than yours

Your money doesn't change that, regardless of your ability to give money and influence athletic department decisions

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So you used to give and got frustrated?

And if I thought my church had "lost its way" I would get involved and give more time and money to help it get back on track. Guess we are just different.

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Not everyone has your money, doctor

And most don't flaunt it like you do

What they have is a keyboard that enables them to give a simple opinion, which is no more or less valid than yours

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Cool. When I didn't have money I still gave what I could and donated time. I just do not understand how people who seem so passionate give so little of either. And type away. I just think you could accomplish so much more in other places.

And do not I have the ability to give my opinion on their opinion without the personal jabs? Please show me on this thread where I flaunted my money or my influence? You sure project a lot. And please show me where I have given any opinion on coaches, players, the program, etc.? And I certainly have an opinion on your opinion based on nothing but your own assumptions.

Go away sip.

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That is attributable to Augie. That was his mindset.

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And if I thought my church had "lost its way" I would get involved and give more time and money to help it get back on track. Guess we are just different.

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Yes. I'm guessing your next question will be you need to know how much?

Obviously you/me put more into church as we can, but if that doesn't work, maybe after 14 years, time to stop supporting. Don't ya think?

We are different. I won't make a snarky remark about it, though.