Oh and it doesn't matter who was better.
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Last: 6 yr ago by threeanout
Florida State, Stanford, and Clemson were the best teams in their regionals too
The Sips won their stinking conference. No surprise they are advancing.
Isn't this their coaches 2nd year? Chances are he is better than what we have.
Making our Rob Childress NOT EVEN THE 3RD best coach IN OUR STATE!
Isn't this their coaches 2nd year? Chances are he is better than what we have.
Making our Rob Childress NOT EVEN THE 3RD best coach IN OUR STATE!
PATHETIC!!!
TTURed Fishing Ag93 said:
The Sips won their stinking conference. No surprise they are advancing.
Isn't this their coaches 2nd year? Chances are he is better than what we have.
Making our Rob Childress NOT EVEN THE 3RD best coach IN OUR STATE!
TCU
UT
DBU
Coog High
SMU <--- haha I kid I kid
At least the Aggies didn't get your azzes handed to you like LSU did!!!
What in the wide world is the op talking about ? We weren't a powerhouse team that got upset in Austin. We were a 3 seed that would NOT have been in the field without the three wins in Hoover. We were an 11 seed in the SEC. TEXAS won the big 12. The big 12 isn't as good as the SEC, but it's not a terrible baseball league. We lost to the 2 seed and the 1 seed in Austin. You make it sound like we were the 1 seed and you can't figure out how we lost.
Gigem
ExactlyAgs77 said:
What in the wide world is the op talking about ? We weren't a powerhouse team that got upset in Austin. We were a 3 seed that would NOT have been in the field without the three wins in Hoover. We were an 11 seed in the SEC. TEXAS won the big 12. The big 12 isn't as good as the SEC, but it's not a terrible baseball league. We lost to the 2 seed and the 1 seed in Austin. You make it sound like we were the 1 seed and you can't figure out how we lost.
We weren't very good, and it showed
BTW, we've been sent packing (or to the losers bracket) by the Big 12 for FIVE years in a row now
Yet the Big 12 is the equivalent of a Div III league?
Yikes! What does that say about us?
That's how TexAgs rationalizes it when Texas wins anything.Captain Pablo said:
Yet the Big 12 is the equivalent of a Div III league?
These are the type of posts that makes me see how delusional some of our fan base is.
We are a #3 seed and people here thinks we should be favored to win?
Do you really think this team would win the big XII? geez
We are a #3 seed and people here thinks we should be favored to win?
Do you really think this team would win the big XII? geez
Vegas had us favored to win going into the weekend.Medaggie said:
These are the type of posts that makes me see how delusional some of our fan base is.
We are a #3 seed and people here thinks we should be favored to win?
Do you really think this team would win the big XII? geez
Vegas often sets lines to entice bets, in other words it is not always about who they believe will win but what will make them money. They make money by maximizing traffic.HoustonAg2106 said:Vegas had us favored to win going into the weekend.Medaggie said:
These are the type of posts that makes me see how delusional some of our fan base is.
We are a #3 seed and people here thinks we should be favored to win?
Do you really think this team would win the big XII? geez
This team scheduled easy non-conference games, underachieved in high leverage conference games, was underwhelming in conference openers, made too many fielding and mental errors, and had virtually no big years from returners (Kilkenny an obvious exception). They also had a lot of difficulty righting the ship when things started to go sideways on them. Part of that is due to a lack of firepower on offense that caused guys to press, and some of it was also due to pitchers having to get 4 outs too many times. There were also some head-scratching coaching decisions, like putting Morris at DH Sunday. Heck, we might still be playing if not for that.
Overall, they capped an underwhelming season with an underwhelming regional. So, what did you expect?
The good news, as I see it, is that I don't see a talent deficit like we had 6 - 7 years ago.
Texas started the season 9 - 9. They played 10 games against Arkansas, LSU, and Stanford. I think challenges like that not only prepare you for the SEC and the post-season mentally/physically, but they also help the staff figure out who their guys are. Who really cares if you hit .380 against Cornell and Wright State in February? Not the selection committee - we can all see that!
Here we are in June, and I don't think RC knows who should be in the lineup yet. Kinda late for that, huh...
Oh, and '93 was our best team ever, not '89.
Overall, they capped an underwhelming season with an underwhelming regional. So, what did you expect?
The good news, as I see it, is that I don't see a talent deficit like we had 6 - 7 years ago.
Texas started the season 9 - 9. They played 10 games against Arkansas, LSU, and Stanford. I think challenges like that not only prepare you for the SEC and the post-season mentally/physically, but they also help the staff figure out who their guys are. Who really cares if you hit .380 against Cornell and Wright State in February? Not the selection committee - we can all see that!
Here we are in June, and I don't think RC knows who should be in the lineup yet. Kinda late for that, huh...
Oh, and '93 was our best team ever, not '89.
You had some great arguments until the 93 team better than 89 team
93 had truly elite pitching with granger Moore and Munsch but the talent in the field for 89 was unbelievable.
93 had truly elite pitching with granger Moore and Munsch but the talent in the field for 89 was unbelievable.
One more thing - who gives a rip about some numbers some dude put up in the BFE summer league? I was a season ticket holder in the Alaska League one year. That's basically a 3 month long fishing trip with baseball games mixed in. It has virtually nothing to do with Friday nights in the SEC. Mostly a nice little boondoggle. I'd like to hear about somebody coming back from Cape Cod knowing how to drag bunt.
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It kills me knowing we have the better team
We do?
Mortimer!Quote:
Munsch
Wicked Good Ag said:
You had some great arguments until the 93 team better than 89 team
93 had truly elite pitching with granger Moore and Munsch but the talent in the field for 89 was unbelievable.
Have no idea why that autocorrected to that.
Because the sips outperformed their stats. Their pitching is not host material. Literally, I have not seen a host team that did not have at least one good SP.
We only barely made the tournament b/c the committee had pre-set conference quotas.
According to RPI, we were the best team in the regional. And as the above poster noted, Vegas seems to believe RPI and the stats.
Yes, we laid an egg. It does not change the fact that this team had the talent to host and get to a super.
Runs scored (through 5/27, according to NCAA site, yes, sips had a good weekend)
TSU 370
A&M 358
tu 350
IU 343
Staff ERA
IU 2.95
A&M 3.23
sips 4.36
TSU 5.25
IF those stats were adjusted for conference, ours would be significantly better.
We only barely made the tournament b/c the committee had pre-set conference quotas.
According to RPI, we were the best team in the regional. And as the above poster noted, Vegas seems to believe RPI and the stats.
Yes, we laid an egg. It does not change the fact that this team had the talent to host and get to a super.
Runs scored (through 5/27, according to NCAA site, yes, sips had a good weekend)
TSU 370
A&M 358
tu 350
IU 343
Staff ERA
IU 2.95
A&M 3.23
sips 4.36
TSU 5.25
IF those stats were adjusted for conference, ours would be significantly better.
Geez, this RPI crap againAgsuffering@bulaw said:
Because the sips outperformed their stats. Their pitching is not host material. Literally, I have not seen a host team that did not have at least one good SP.
We only barely made the tournament b/c the committee had pre-set conference quotas.
According to RPI, we were the best team in the regional. And as the above poster noted, Vegas seems to believe RPI and the stats.
Yes, we laid an egg. It does not change the fact that this team had the talent to host and get to a super.
Runs scored (through 5/27, according to NCAA site, yes, sips had a good weekend)
TSU 370
A&M 358
tu 350
IU 343
Staff ERA
IU 2.95
A&M 3.23
sips 4.36
TSU 5.25
IF those stats were adjusted for conference, ours would be significantly better.
If we were a better team we would not have gotten our ass kicked like we did
When our pitching is really good, like at Hoover, we can play with most anyone and certainly could have won this regional. But we can't forget periods when our pitching struggled, not to mention defense and offense. It all averaged out to a pretty good team that needed to click on all cylinders to beat teams with comparable talent. Unfortunately they didn't bring the Hoover mojo with them to Austin.
Every metric that disagrees with you isn't "crap". People who make their money on this kind of stuff agreed with it. They were wrong in this instance because our pitchers had bad days (it happens, as inopportune as it was), but they're doing something right overall.Captain Pablo said:Geez, this RPI crap againAgsuffering@bulaw said:
Because the sips outperformed their stats. Their pitching is not host material. Literally, I have not seen a host team that did not have at least one good SP.
We only barely made the tournament b/c the committee had pre-set conference quotas.
According to RPI, we were the best team in the regional. And as the above poster noted, Vegas seems to believe RPI and the stats.
Yes, we laid an egg. It does not change the fact that this team had the talent to host and get to a super.
Runs scored (through 5/27, according to NCAA site, yes, sips had a good weekend)
TSU 370
A&M 358
tu 350
IU 343
Staff ERA
IU 2.95
A&M 3.23
sips 4.36
TSU 5.25
IF those stats were adjusted for conference, ours would be significantly better.
If we were a better team we would not have gotten our ass kicked like we did
Calling RPI crap is like calling Sagarin or Vegas betting lines crap.
Upsets happen all the time in baseball. About half the national seeds make it to the CWS. Less than 60% of regional hosts make the supers. (most regional seeds are favored, thus the example)
Sometimes the inferior team has a great weekend. Results within a small sample are not inherent truth.
Upsets happen all the time in baseball. About half the national seeds make it to the CWS. Less than 60% of regional hosts make the supers. (most regional seeds are favored, thus the example)
Sometimes the inferior team has a great weekend. Results within a small sample are not inherent truth.
t.u. has had Gustafson and Garrido, we have had Johnson and a pitching coach. If winning is important, it starts with the decisions being made on who should coach. Do not try to rationalize Childress' meager success because if you have the pitchers he's had and you don't win, then you should try basketball.
Two of college baseballs all-time winningest coaches were hired and had great careers in DildoKissyville.
Both won NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS. If I'm gonna have to hear my best friend rag on me with "poor Aggies" then I'm gonna tell it like it is.
Meanwhile in Aggieville we had a great coach who replaced Tom Chandler, and now have someone who doesn't even have a set rotation of starting pitchers to begin the year with, although he's a pitching coach. The rotation changed faster than underwear.
Telling a highly recruited pitcher to "pound the strike zone" is as effective in the long term for a team as starting Joz in the rotation (pissing off other guys who knew they were better) and then substituting other freshmen later who WERE better.....it comes down to coaching when teams are evenly matched. Coaching as a head coach is more than knowing to tell your pitcher to stride longer to keep the ball down or throw with your legs and not your arm like a pitching coach does.....it is about instant and continuous talent evaluation, building and maintaining team chemistry, having a work ethic that does not allow for getting the crap beat out of you and showing no emotion. A team assumes the qualities of the coach. This one is unassuming and didn't even get into a yelling match when Clemens jeered at the dugout and coach dismissed it.....so the team is unassuming because their coach is ok with a smart aleck kid making fun of them. 75% if the coaches I played for would have found a way to get back in that game, just to pay that back.
Two of college baseballs all-time winningest coaches were hired and had great careers in DildoKissyville.
Both won NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS. If I'm gonna have to hear my best friend rag on me with "poor Aggies" then I'm gonna tell it like it is.
Meanwhile in Aggieville we had a great coach who replaced Tom Chandler, and now have someone who doesn't even have a set rotation of starting pitchers to begin the year with, although he's a pitching coach. The rotation changed faster than underwear.
Telling a highly recruited pitcher to "pound the strike zone" is as effective in the long term for a team as starting Joz in the rotation (pissing off other guys who knew they were better) and then substituting other freshmen later who WERE better.....it comes down to coaching when teams are evenly matched. Coaching as a head coach is more than knowing to tell your pitcher to stride longer to keep the ball down or throw with your legs and not your arm like a pitching coach does.....it is about instant and continuous talent evaluation, building and maintaining team chemistry, having a work ethic that does not allow for getting the crap beat out of you and showing no emotion. A team assumes the qualities of the coach. This one is unassuming and didn't even get into a yelling match when Clemens jeered at the dugout and coach dismissed it.....so the team is unassuming because their coach is ok with a smart aleck kid making fun of them. 75% if the coaches I played for would have found a way to get back in that game, just to pay that back.
Shoulda plunked him after the first HR. 1 base beats 4 every time. His Daddy would surely understand!Uncle Gunnysack said:
im not a fan of childress but his response to the clemens asshat was one that i couldnt agree with more. 'you dont like them celebrating, make a better pitch', or something to that effect. we did nothing to shut them up and deserve to be tormented
Eff tu
His daddy wouldn't understand throwing a ball at someone (although he did hit Piazza in the head). Might understand throwing a bat, though.AggieDadx3 said:Shoulda plunked him after the first HR. 1 base beats 4 every time. His Daddy would surely understand!Uncle Gunnysack said:
im not a fan of childress but his response to the clemens asshat was one that i couldnt agree with more. 'you dont like them celebrating, make a better pitch', or something to that effect. we did nothing to shut them up and deserve to be tormented
Agsuffering@bulaw said:
Calling RPI crap is like calling Sagarin or Vegas betting lines crap.
Upsets happen all the time in baseball. About half the national seeds make it to the CWS. Less than 60% of regional hosts make the supers. (most regional seeds are favored, thus the example)
Sometimes the inferior team has a great weekend. Results within a small sample are not inherent truth.
This is a very accurate post...hence Stanford, Florida State, Clemson, and maybe Ole Miss tonight
Unless Mississippi beats Tennessee Tech tonight, the sips will be hosting the super.
mullokmotx said:
Unless Mississippi beats Tennessee Tech tonight, the sips will be hosting the super.
Now that particular turn of events would certainly pump a lot of gangrene into Aggie craws!
Tennessee Tech all but destroyed Ole Miss earlier this afternoon by a score of 15-5, garnering 16 hits!!
Uh, that is not at all how it works. Wow.jkag89 said:Vegas often sets lines to entice bets, in other words it is not always about who they believe will win but what will make them money. They make money by maximizing traffic.HoustonAg2106 said:Vegas had us favored to win going into the weekend.Medaggie said:
These are the type of posts that makes me see how delusional some of our fan base is.
We are a #3 seed and people here thinks we should be favored to win?
Do you really think this team would win the big XII? geez
Are you trying to say that Oddsmakers do not adjust the Line for say the Patriots or The Cowboys based on how they feel the general public is going to bet?johnnyblaze36 said:Uh, that is not at all how it works. Wow.jkag89 said:Vegas often sets lines to entice bets, in other words it is not always about who they believe will win but what will make them money. They make money by maximizing traffic.HoustonAg2106 said:Vegas had us favored to win going into the weekend.Medaggie said:
These are the type of posts that makes me see how delusional some of our fan base is.
We are a #3 seed and people here thinks we should be favored to win?
Do you really think this team would win the big XII? geez
johnnyblaze36 said:Uh, that is not at all how it works. Wow.jkag89 said:Vegas often sets lines to entice bets, in other words it is not always about who they believe will win but what will make them money. They make money by maximizing traffic.HoustonAg2106 said:Vegas had us favored to win going into the weekend.Medaggie said:
These are the type of posts that makes me see how delusional some of our fan base is.
We are a #3 seed and people here thinks we should be favored to win?
Do you really think this team would win the big XII? geez
uh yes that is exactly how it works the bookmaker hopes to even the bets on both sides and they profit from the juice they will be happy with that day in day out all day long
they move the line to entice the bets to even out on each side
Um, yes it is. Vegas is in the business to make money not in prognosticating who will win or lose sporting events. They set lines to maximize profits and lessen risks.johnnyblaze36 said:Uh, that is not at all how it works. Wow.jkag89 said:Vegas often sets lines to entice bets, in other words it is not always about who they believe will win but what will make them money. They make money by maximizing traffic.HoustonAg2106 said:Vegas had us favored to win going into the weekend.Medaggie said:
These are the type of posts that makes me see how delusional some of our fan base is.
We are a #3 seed and people here thinks we should be favored to win?
Do you really think this team would win the big XII? geez
Get a grip, dude. Yes, tu is garbage, but A&M was on the outside looking in until the run thru the SEC tournament. The tournament folks seemed to get the Austin regional just right, with the #1 seed knocking off the #2 seed in the final game. You can be bitter about the Ag's starting pitching in games 2 and 3 but that's the way it goes sometimes. The 11th best team in the SEC this year didn't have enough to get out of the Regional, nothing to lose sleep over. Or did you run your mouth before the first pitch and end up eating crow?
Stats are for losers. When it really matters, RC folds like a cheap tent. We have never competed for a national championship.
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