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May not mean anything, but Jeff Toole was on Gary Blair's weekly radio show about a week ago. Heard at least part of that discussion on the radio, and believe it was the whole thing. They asked what athletic facility upgrades were planned and/or funded. Baseball was not mentioned unless the clip I heard omitted that part. A link to the full show is below. I haven't gone back to listen.

https://12thman.com/news/2019/1/29/womens-basketball-gary-blair-radio-show-jan-28.aspx

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Utay is still here?

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BrandoC said:

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Anyone have any recent information about the possible expansion that could happen? Been pretty silent for a long time.

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All about the cash flow. We need to sell out Kyle. And we need a new basketball coach.

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From a previous AD:

"I know I get a lot of comments about being interested in money, and I am. It's right up there with oxygen as far as running a good athletic program."

-Bill Byrne

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Nah. That's was ELO that said that

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If I had to hazard a guess, I'd say one of the variables that is causing some indecision is the SEC alcohol policy. The expansion concept that was being considered was heavy on club seats--in fact, it would have expanded the Diamond Club and forced a re-seating of the entire stadium. However, if the SEC is going to allow alcohol in general seating (and A&M gives every indication of selling alcohol wherever the SEC will permit it), why would you want to pay $1500 per seat more just to have access to the Diamond Club, when the folks across the aisle can have a beer, too? Who would buy outfield club seats in that scenario?

The additional reserved seating down the 3rd base line is a no brainer, but I'm not sure it will get done until they figure out where they are on club seating.

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I think a lot of people especially families, business owners, corporate accounts would buy outfield suites. The appeal of having air conditioning, food and bev catered in is well worth the price particularly for the same types that own suites at Kyle, Globelife, or Minute Maid.

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twk said:

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If I had to hazard a guess, I'd say one of the variables that is causing some indecision is the SEC alcohol policy. The expansion concept that was being considered was heavy on club seats--in fact, it would have expanded the Diamond Club and forced a re-seating of the entire stadium. However, if the SEC is going to allow alcohol in general seating (and A&M gives every indication of selling alcohol wherever the SEC will permit it), why would you want to pay $1500 per seat more just to have access to the Diamond Club, when the folks across the aisle can have a beer, too? Who would buy outfield club seats in that scenario?

The additional reserved seating down the 3rd base line is a no brainer, but I'm not sure it will get done until they figure out where they are on club seating.

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I think a lot of people especially families, business owners, corporate accounts would buy outfield suites. The appeal of having air conditioning, food and bev catered in is well worth the price particularly for the same types that own suites at Kyle, Globelife, or Minute Maid.

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The proposed expansion plan didn't include any additional suites, just club seats. They did some research, and I don't believe the market is there for additional suites (not at a price that would make it worthwhile to build them, anyway). BCS is a college town, with a lot of service businesses. While there are plenty of folks that can afford club seats, BCS doesn't have the kinds of businesses that do the kind of business entertainment that makes suites attractive.

twk said:

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awschux said:

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twk said:

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If I had to hazard a guess, I'd say one of the variables that is causing some indecision is the SEC alcohol policy. The expansion concept that was being considered was heavy on club seats--in fact, it would have expanded the Diamond Club and forced a re-seating of the entire stadium. However, if the SEC is going to allow alcohol in general seating (and A&M gives every indication of selling alcohol wherever the SEC will permit it), why would you want to pay $1500 per seat more just to have access to the Diamond Club, when the folks across the aisle can have a beer, too? Who would buy outfield club seats in that scenario?

The additional reserved seating down the 3rd base line is a no brainer, but I'm not sure it will get done until they figure out where they are on club seating.

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I think a lot of people especially families, business owners, corporate accounts would buy outfield suites. The appeal of having air conditioning, food and bev catered in is well worth the price particularly for the same types that own suites at Kyle, Globelife, or Minute Maid.

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The proposed expansion plan didn't include any additional suites, just club seats. They did some research, and I don't believe the market is there for additional suites (not at a price that would make it worthwhile to build them, anyway). BCS is a college town, with a lot of service businesses. While there are plenty of folks that can afford club seats, BCS doesn't have the kinds of businesses that do the kind of business entertainment that makes suites attractive.

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I thought they were going to replace berms with conforming grandstands, at least on one side

Yes, the left field berm was to be replaced as part of this project. But, as I said, the whole thing was driven by club seat expansion, and I have to imagine that is somewhat up in the air at the moment (changes to the tax code won't help in this respect, either, now that I think about it).

This ain't that hard. Stick some bleachers in left field. Takes one solid day of work.

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This ain't that hard. Stick some bleachers in left field. Takes one solid day of work.

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it isn't that easy. There isn't any access to the stadium from left field.

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The more people are talking about expansion plans, the more I'm just not feeling it. The moment that expansion takes place, the entirety of GA will get pushed to the outfield and this becomes just another run-of-the-mill college baseball stadium. The atmosphere will absolutely suffer for it.

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Go back and read the focus group threads. I think you are being a little paranoid.

Maybe so

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Capt. America said:

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The more people are talking about expansion plans, the more I'm just not feeling it. The moment that expansion takes place, the entirety of GA will get pushed to the outfield and this becomes just another run-of-the-mill college baseball stadium. The atmosphere will absolutely suffer for it.

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Go back and read the focus group threads. I think you are being a little paranoid.

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The same focus groups that complain about levy and nothing changes?

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The same focus groups that complain about levy and nothing changes?

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Levy was not the primary subject of the focus groups.

concessions where major focus on the one I filled out for basketball. But maybe we're talking about different things.

BQ_90 said:

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concessions where major focus on the one I filled out for basketball. But maybe we're talking about different things.

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Yes, we are.

Capt. America said:

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The more people are talking about expansion plans, the more I'm just not feeling it. The moment that expansion takes place, the entirety of GA will get pushed to the outfield and this becomes just another run-of-the-mill college baseball stadium. The atmosphere will absolutely suffer for it.

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I am 100% pro general admission/student section where it is. However, having that big of an area allotted for that limits season ticket sales. It's rare that area is full on a Tuesday night vs SFA, but if they sold season tickets there it still won't be full, but it would be sold. I think there is a need to increase chairbacks down (LF) the line to help mitigate this. It also makes for a more comfortable experience for big games that sell out.

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It's all a crock.. The focus groups, the pretending to care what fans think, the whatever

They reduced capacity and replaced it with dirt and grass

The ****ed up concessions

They reduced GA seating

They got rid of FlashSeats and replaced it with crappy StubHub

The administration, 12MF or whoever is in charge is a big joke

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AMEN!

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twk said:

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If I had to hazard a guess, I'd say one of the variables that is causing some indecision is the SEC alcohol policy. The expansion concept that was being considered was heavy on club seats--in fact, it would have expanded the Diamond Club and forced a re-seating of the entire stadium. However, if the SEC is going to allow alcohol in general seating (and A&M gives every indication of selling alcohol wherever the SEC will permit it), why would you want to pay $1500 per seat more just to have access to the Diamond Club, when the folks across the aisle can have a beer, too? Who would buy outfield club seats in that scenario?

The additional reserved seating down the 3rd base line is a no brainer, but I'm not sure it will get done until they figure out where they are on club seating.

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I think a lot of people especially families, business owners, corporate accounts would buy outfield suites. The appeal of having air conditioning, food and bev catered in is well worth the price particularly for the same types that own suites at Kyle, Globelife, or Minute Maid.

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The proposed expansion plan didn't include any additional suites, just club seats. They did some research, and I don't believe the market is there for additional suites (not at a price that would make it worthwhile to build them, anyway). BCS is a college town, with a lot of service businesses. While there are plenty of folks that can afford club seats, BCS doesn't have the kinds of businesses that do the kind of business entertainment that makes suites attractive.

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Does anyone have a link to this proposal? Just curious.

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Does anyone have a link to this proposal? Just curious.

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See images on first page

I think that will happen, sooner or later. That little part wouldn't cost a lot, but if they are going to do something more extensive, it would make sense to do it as part of a larger project, rather than doing it piecemeal.

the outfield club lounge looks like those would be the worst seats in the house. Can't see scoreboard. Get to watch the action thru a screen?

I would assume TVs and a call of the game would be on so you'd have good info. While you're not close to home your close to the field. It's the nature of any OF seat.

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the outfield club lounge looks like those would be the worst seats in the house. Can't see scoreboard. Get to watch the action thru a screen?

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No one would have their seats IN the club. The ticketed seats are above it. The view through the chain link would just be an alternative to watching it on TV while you are getting food/drinks.

twk said:

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BQ_90 said:

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the outfield club lounge looks like those would be the worst seats in the house. Can't see scoreboard. Get to watch the action thru a screen?

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No one would have their seats IN the club. The ticketed seats are above it. The view through the chain link would just be an alternative to watching it on TV while you are getting food/drinks.

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Still don't see the demand for those in addition to taking reserved sections for Diamond club.