Another good example are the flag poles in Tal's Hill. Two of them are outside of the field. If you hit one of them it's a home run. If you hit the third... It depends on where it lands.
quote:quote:quote:Wrong.
Nope. The pole is outside of the field of play, but fair territory. Contacted is the key.
The foul pole and foul line are both "in the field of play".
The foul poles are outside the field of play. If they were in the field a ball that bounced off of one back into the park would be playable. It is not.
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You are confusing foul territory with dead ball territory.
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Y'all putzes are missing a good game. Serious pitching duel.
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Yes. In no park are the foul poles within the field of play, they are all in fair territory.
quote:Not true. Theoretically, a much smaller fraction (than 1/4) can "touch the line", and if it (or any part) does indeed touch the line, it's fair. End of story!
If 3/4 of the ball lands foul, the ball will not touch the line.
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Fair Territory SECTION 28. That part of the playing field within and including the first- and third-base lines from home plate to the bottom of the playing-field fence and perpendicularly upwards. Both foul lines are in fair territory.
quote:If the center of the ball lands outside of the foul line, the ball will have first contacted foul territory which is, by the definition of a foul ball, a foul ball. Sorry Boerne.quote:Not true. Theoretically, a much smaller fraction (than 1/4) can "touch the line", and if it (or any part) does indeed touch the line, it's fair. End of story!
If 3/4 of the ball lands foul, the ball will not touch the line.
quote:True, but since there's no way to determine that, umpires must be content with seeing chalk fly. No chalk, it's foul. Otherwise, I agree with your premise.quote:If the center of the ball lands outside of the foul line, the ball will have first contacted foul territory which is, by the definition of a foul ball, a foul ball. Sorry Boerne.quote:Not true. Theoretically, a much smaller fraction (than 1/4) can "touch the line", and if it (or any part) does indeed touch the line, it's fair. End of story!
If 3/4 of the ball lands foul, the ball will not touch the line.
quote:Did not see it. So what was the basis for calling it fair?
the ball that started all of this yesterday kicked up no chalk. Was called foul, then, the first ever reviewed play in the CWS overturned a good call.
quote:Thanks. From the still photo, it appears the ball touched the line. Obviously, the ball would have touched foul ground first, but if the ball touched the chalk, it should be ruled fair, to follow the spirit of the rule, imo.
the ball never touched chalk as the center of it landed nearly 1.5" away from the line.
The debris kicked up by the ball was visible on the chalk line.
http://www.secsports.com/article/16343437/florida-drops-cws-opener-coastal-carolina
around 1:32 in that video.