Why do people get so caught up in journalists' takes? Now we all the sudden think because Maryland hasn't announced Buzz that it's because Buzz "has baggage" or "hasn't done anything lately"? Five days ago he was a sure thing for Maryland if the coach left.

Could it be that Buzz wasn't interested or the contract wasn't enough and now Maryland is spinning that "he wasn't good enough" or "he has too much baggage"?

The news is a joke and people fall for it and I never understand it. Maybe he leaves and maybe he doesn't but people following these journalist takes over and over is just weird to me.

Does it really matter why he doesn't end up at Maryland?

Damage has been done whether Buzz extracted himself or was rejected.

AggieCrew you have defended Buzz. Now what? He is literally screwed himself and now his career.

Buzz needed something like this to check his ego at the door. Like he preaches, be grateful that you are at a great institution and you make a lot of money coaching. He is not the coach he thinks he is. That was the downfall of Jimbo. His ego (pride)

Doesnt mean he can't reinvent himself. Nick Saben of all people did.

I like the guy but be genuine. Dont post all those youtube videos. People look at it as self promotion. High Schools coaches see the same thing.

Unless Buzz gets a bright offensive mind in as an assistant coach, his ceiling is NCAA 2nd round. Every year, his teams can't shoot. They live and die at the free throw line. His defensive scheme is fine. His offense will always be what lets this (or any) program down.

Is Alex Caruso ready to retire and try out coaching?

I think by the end of the week (by the latest), Buzz needs to make a statement, and if he stays, then say that you are committed to keep growing the program and working with Trev Alberts and the administration.

Also, he needs to do a much better job of engaging with the student population and fan base. It is not enough to post videos about you teaching a class with cadets. Perhaps the speaker at the "Big Event" (just like the VB coach Morrison or Elko did) engaged with student organizations and city organizations (e.g., Gary Blair implemented a day where elementary school kids go to a game). These are basic things you can do as a coach to encourage the fan base to support you and the team beyond the "core fans" (e.g., like me or many others here at Texags).

The guy is a good coach, and he has the chance to rebuild a new roster with different characteristics/players, which is exciting. He just needs to update some of his approach in terms of communication/engagement and not being afraid to commit to a place.

2nd Generation Ag said:

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AggieCrew you have defended Buzz. Now what? He is literally screwed himself and now his career.

Buzz needed something like this to check his ego at the door. Like he preaches, be grateful that you are at a great institution and you make a lot of money coaching. He is not the coach he thinks he is. That was the downfall of Jimbo. His ego (pride)

Doesnt mean he can't reinvent himself. Nick Saben of all people did.

I like the guy but be genuine. Dont post all those youtube videos. People look at it as self promotion. High Schools coaches see the same thing.

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Uhhhh all I said was him returning was the best chance for us to have a good team next year, but thanks for all that

Me being reasonable about his tenure here is very different from defending him, but you know that

2nd Generation Ag said:

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He is literally screwed himself and now his career.

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He still has a job regardless making close to $4.5 million a year w/ an $18 million buyout.

So 'screwed' his career is relative to how much better he could have done on top of that, as doubtless 99.99% of the population, presumably including yourself, would love to have 'screwed up' your career as Buzz has done.

agtrevino07 said:

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I think by the end of the week (by the latest), Buzz needs to make a statement, and if he stays, then say that you are committed to keep growing the program and working with Trev Alberts and the administration.

Also, he needs to do a much better job of engaging with the student population and fan base. It is not enough to post videos about you teaching a class with cadets. Perhaps the speaker at the "Big Event" (just like the VB coach Morrison or Elko did) engaged with student organizations and city organizations (e.g., Gary Blair implemented a day where elementary school kids go to a game).

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This is 100% (probably) not going to happen. Buzz Williams is loyal to Buzz Williams (and his players probably), not anyone else. Marquette writers and fans complained about it. VT writers and fans complained about it. He posts and talks about "Team Buzz," but he never in his career mentions "Team Marquette" or "Team Hokies."

A&M wants to believe he "loves A&M" and "this is his dream job," but the career and the personality artifacts don't support this. He's an above average coach who had lots of success early in his career, but he doesn't care about his current employer and has no interest in building anything with the fans, school, or program

Someone here said it right earlier. Buzz has a high floor and a low ceiling at A&M. We have (1) good enough facilities and (2) play in a good enough conference and (3) have good enough NIL and (4) attract enough good recruits for Buzz to be successful coach but not an elite coach.

Maryland is in the EXACT same boat in all those metrics. Maryland is not an ELITE school and are not an upgrade to Buzz's current situation.

Unless Buzz just wants to breath some fresh air and start somewhere new...anywhere new...resetting to buy himself 3-5 more years, there is no reason to leave A&M for Maryland.

That being said, I don't see A&M fans or admin to be as kind to Buzz for the next 3 years as they were for the last 3 years. So that might be more of a factor than Maryland's program would otherwise indicate.

I think it's funny Buzz has been on a crescendo with this program along with it's best season ever and we have people still calling for his head. And those same people claim it's wrong for him to bounce around every couple of years.

You would think that with continual improvement each year that the pitchforks would cease. One can understand why hypothetically he would want a change out of the negativity.

Aginnebraska said:

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Someone here said it right earlier. Buzz has a high floor and a low ceiling at A&M. We have (1) good enough facilities and (2) play in a good enough conference and (3) have good enough NIL and (4) attract enough good recruits for Buzz to be successful coach but not an elite coach.

Maryland is in the EXACT same boat in all those metrics. Maryland is not an ELITE school and are not an upgrade to Buzz's current situation.

Unless Buzz just wants to breath some fresh air and start somewhere new...anywhere new...resetting to buy himself 3-5 more years, there is no reason to leave A&M for Maryland.

That being said, I don't see A&M fans or admin to be as kind to Buzz for the next 3 years as they were for the last 3 years. So that might be more of a factor than Maryland's program would otherwise indicate.

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I will say this. If the UA founder/billionaire ever got serious about Maryland sports, they could become a power in a hurry. Especially basketball. It actually makes sense because he'd get those kids wearing UA shoes too (unlike a random donor without a real NIL interest other than winning).

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I think it's funny Buzz has been on a crescendo with this program along with it's best season ever and we have people still calling for his head. And those same people claim it's wrong for him to bounce around every couple of years.

You would think that with continual improvement each year that the pitchforks would cease. One can understand why hypothetically he would want a change out of the negativity.

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I think we found Buzz's burner.

Yeah, the damage caused by people following news designed for profits and not to provide accurate information?

uneedastraw said:

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Why do people get so caught up in journalists' takes? Now we all the sudden think because Maryland hasn't announced Buzz that it's because Buzz "has baggage" or "hasn't done anything lately"? Five days ago he was a sure thing for Maryland if the coach left.

Could it be that Buzz wasn't interested or the contract wasn't enough and now Maryland is spinning that "he wasn't good enough" or "he has too much baggage"?

The news is a joke and people fall for it and I never understand it. Maybe he leaves and maybe he doesn't but people following these journalist takes over and over is just weird to me.

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Literally no reporters said this.

If you don't want to believe a journalist, then fine, there are definitely some bad ones out there. But the one saying that Maryland is hesitant on Buzz because of baggage and not having done anything lately is the same one that reported Maryland's AD was leaving, then that Willard had already agreed to a deal at 'Nova even he was publicly saying otherwise, etc. He's got an incredible track record in that camp.

Could he be wrong? Sure, he's just reporting what his sources are telling him and sometimes those sources change their minds or things happen, but he's been WAY ahead of this situation for a month now.

I meant by a sure thing as he was a top candidate…now a few days later he isn't good enough.

uneedastraw said:

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Why do people get so caught up in journalists' takes? Now we all the sudden think because Maryland hasn't announced Buzz that it's because Buzz "has baggage" or "hasn't done anything lately"? Five days ago he was a sure thing for Maryland if the coach left.

Could it be that Buzz wasn't interested or the contract wasn't enough and now Maryland is spinning that "he wasn't good enough" or "he has too much baggage"?

The news is a joke and people fall for it and I never understand it. Maybe he leaves and maybe he doesn't but people following these journalist takes over and over is just weird to me.

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Nobody said Buzz to MD was a sure thing. What people said was Buzz was pushing to be considered for the position should it open up, just like he's done with every major(ish) opening dating back to Indiana earlier in the year.

None of that means those schools have to target him. Also, it's not journalists that are angling for anything, IT IS BUZZ.

uneedastraw said:

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Why do people get so caught up in journalists' takes? Now we all the sudden think because Maryland hasn't announced Buzz that it's because Buzz "has baggage" or "hasn't done anything lately"? Five days ago he was a sure thing for Maryland if the coach left.

Could it be that Buzz wasn't interested or the contract wasn't enough and now Maryland is spinning that "he wasn't good enough" or "he has too much baggage"?

The news is a joke and people fall for it and I never understand it. Maybe he leaves and maybe he doesn't but people following these journalist takes over and over is just weird to me.

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The catch is that none of this was a "journalist's take".

We hyped the hot take of someone with a thousand followers. It was a false take that Buzz to Maryland was a done deal.

The only journalist take is that Buzz contacted Maryland and expressed interest. Maryland interviewed him. Maryland will make a decision soon.

Everything else is an opinion.

BuzzFan24 said:

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I think it's funny Buzz has been on a crescendo with this program along with it's best season ever and we have people still calling for his head. And those same people claim it's wrong for him to bounce around every couple of years.

You would think that with continual improvement each year that the pitchforks would cease. One can understand why hypothetically he would want a change out of the negativity.

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that's like suggesting a POTUS could have a 100% approval rating. It simply won't happen. Negativity on an in-game thread when our offense looks like it can't hit the broad side of a barn vs regular day to day threads where the overwhelming majority of Ags want Buzz to stay, but evolve offensively, are 2 VERY different things.

I still do think you're like buzz's kid or wife, nephew, brother, family friend, etc.

He did interview, so he is a candidate. Although I guess if you don't believe the reporter on that either then you can just wave that away.

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He did interview, so he is a candidate. Although I guess if you don't believe the reporter on that either then you can just wave that away.

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The Fake News generation.

Read my take again

If he interviewed, we are now believing that he wasn't offered because he wasn't good enough? Maybe buzz didn't like the situation after the interview.

It's in marylands best interest to spin it to the negative for us and the positive for them.

Will we believe a veteran reporter with a great track record of being an insider for Maryland and whose been running that website for like 15 years and has been ahead of the national reporters on the situation there for weeks? No.

Will we believe an internet rumor about a girl having relations with her boyfriends dad and talk about them as fact based on random social media and/or message board posts? Absolutely.

Hey it's up to you on if you believe the reporter or not. I do. He's got a proven track record of not just reporting Maryland's PR spin on things. He's also not saying it definitely won't be Buzz, he's saying those are some of the concerns about Buzz and whether he's worth the absolutely massive contract he's going to demand.

Your alternative is extremely unlikely. Possible, but unlikely.

BuzzFan24 said:

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I think it's funny Buzz has been on a crescendo with this program along with it's best season ever and we have people still calling for his head. And those same people claim it's wrong for him to bounce around every couple of years.

You would think that with continual improvement each year that the pitchforks would cease. One can understand why hypothetically he would want a change out of the negativity.

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A small percentage of the fan base was calling for "his head" or "pitchforks." In general, nobody was pushing Buzz and his staff out of A&M/College Station. On the contrary, many fans, including me, have expressed their desire for Buzz to stay with us and evolve. Adminstration-wise, just think about it: A&M extended his contract until 2028 and guaranteed more than $13 million. Also, when Ross Bjork was out, Mark Welsh (A&M president) met with him and the rest of the team. Additionally, he is allowed to be a lecturer focused on leadership, so I am not sure where this perception of "pitchforks" comes from.

I am not assuming you are connecting to Buzz in any way, but if Buzz is feeling like "pitchforks" are out every year, I can't believe he is interested in Indiana or Maryland, where the pressure would be much, much higher.

If he wants loyalty from fans/school, he needs to be guarded about expressing any emotion or commitment towards our university/program.

vibe shift on this from the Maryland end today?

Looch just posted that it seems like it's happening based on sources out of Maryland

Texas A&M should hire Mark Turgeon

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Looch just posted that it seems like it's happening based on sources out of Maryland

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This is just being spun by Maryland. They're using spin of maybe hiring him to see the national reaction in an effort to smear A&M.

HossAg said:

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Looch just posted that it seems like it's happening based on sources out of Maryland

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Ha! I was just reading what some reporters were saying on Twitter and it seemed like the tone had changed a little bit.

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HossAg said:

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Looch just posted that it seems like it's happening based on sources out of Maryland

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Ha! I was just reading what some reporters were saying on Twitter and it seemed like the tone had changed a little bit.

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Yep
Sounds like buzz to Maryland is likely to happen now

We should start rumors that Maryland wants Trev Alberts.

Chris Collins > Buzz Williams.

Terps would be crazy not to hire Collins.

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HossAg said:

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Looch just posted that it seems like it's happening based on sources out of Maryland

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This is just being spun by Maryland. They're using spin of maybe hiring him to see the national reaction in an effort to smear A&M.

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I think it's happening. Pretty rare for Looch to post like this and have it fall through.

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Bunk Moreland said:

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HossAg said:

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Looch just posted that it seems like it's happening based on sources out of Maryland

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This is just being spun by Maryland. They're using spin of maybe hiring him to see the national reaction in an effort to smear A&M.

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I think it's happening. Pretty rare for Looch to post like this and have it fall through.

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Yep, looch hinting at a deal being done means the deal is done.

It's over. Deal will come out pretty quick.