Buzz to Maryland?

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TjgtAg08
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Mr.Milkshake said:

Once it's clear the coach wants out, it is a done deal. But, Buzz's little plan flopped a bit when the team bounced early in the tourney. Maybe he still wiggles in somewhere else. IMO he went all in for this year with roster planning in order to make a move

At this point, he will have to do some very un-Buzz things to salvage relationships with the AD and others if he can't find a job, and our search is already churning behind the scenes. If he has to come back at this point, we are all cooked. Maybe we hold onto Payne, that's the only benefit.

No way we have these balls, but nothing would be better than dumping his ass with a great replacement hire and him having to go somewhere mid.


He's not going to have to do anything to come back because we cannot get rid of him unless we want to pay $16million.

It's a really crappy position to put A&M in, but from Buzz's perspective it's pretty much a dream scenario - he can try to find another job knowing he can come back to a $4.5mill/year gig with 0% chance of losing it. And if he doesn't want to rebuild, he can just retire for a year or 2 and then get another job. Or do this exact same thing again next year.

It SUCKS for us right now.
TjgtAg08
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Method Man said:

Hope the Maryland guy stays and we tell buzz to take a hike off on team bus one.


How can we? We owe him $16 mill if we want to fire him. It's just not possible.
Bunk Moreland
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Method Man said:

Hope the Maryland guy stays and we tell buzz to take a hike off on team bus one.


We don't have the money to do that.
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Method Man said:

Hope the Maryland guy stays and we tell buzz to take a hike off on team bus one.

I don't think Trev would be willing to throw 10 million down the drain like that
bobinator
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Just do what Tech did and make up something to fire him for.
BQ_90
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bobinator said:

Just do what Tech did and make up something to fire him for.

We can't figure that out for G or Joni or Jimbo they won't for Buzz
AtticusMatlock
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This is still predicated on the Maryland coach taking the Villanova job, which still hasn't happened.

Gotta love the quite from Coach Willard, though:
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"I don't know what I'm doing," he said. "I'll be honest with you. I haven't talked to my agent. I haven't talked to my wife."

Must be giving the Terp admins a lot of confidence.

NyAggie
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MarcAg said:

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cs69ag said:

Wonder why blue blood KU Turgeon did not work at Maryland?
Must have complained about the attendance when he was losing??


I live in MD and, yeah, he complained a lot. Eventually, the fanbase told him to f off. Kind of like what Willard is doing now. Buzz will do well there because he doesn't generally complain. Just #getbetter.

Of note, I lived in Kentucky when Gillespie went to Kentucky. Lived in Maryland when Turgeon went to Maryland. And i still live in Maryland..
Buzz cries about tweets all the time, not sure where you got that he didn't complain.


He doesn't complain about facilities or attendance to the public.
He does it in a subtle way. Like talking about how many Tech fans showed up in Forth Worth for the game and being taken aback by the difference in the crowd. Talked about how many Purdue fans traveled up the road to Indianapolis. I took those to be more comments about A&M fans not going to the DFW and Houston games when we have them. And for the record, those are valid comments. Why don't our fans show for those games


Because, as had been pointed out ad nauseum
On these boards, our fans generally don't care about basketball

dcg4403
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This is ALL BS and you are ALL falling for it.

Buzz is NOT taking the Maryland job.

How do I know?

Maryland is NOT paying $16M to get him out of his contract with A&M. So if that's the number needed to buy him out of A&M....no freaking way.

Just follow the money. And Buzz is just a 600 percentage coach. Sorry...but this makes zero sense.

And I actually kinda hope it is true as it gives A&M an opportunity to hire a coach that has better potentional to go much deeper in the tournament. Have no problems with Buzz staying either....just dont expect a Sweet 16 anytime soon.
Bunk Moreland
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Who's falling for what? Buzz is actively looking for a new destination. That's a fact. He may stay here because he can't find a landing spot that fits his desires but none of us are "falling" for anything.

Also, if he was assured the Maryland job and came to talk to A&M brass about it, not only would we let him walk, I'd bet we'd negotiate his buyout to make the transition easier if needed.
Southlake
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And then go get Baird…
t-rex
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Maryland won't owe $16mm. If he leaves the buyout is $2mm, or $1mm after April 1.

The buyout if A&M fires him is the larger figure. Billy quoted $16mm but that seems high since I think he has 3 years left in his contract, I would think it's more like $13mm. But either way it's more than we would likely be willing to pay.
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dcg4403 said:

This is ALL BS and you are ALL falling for it.

Buzz is NOT taking the Maryland job.

How do I know?

Maryland is NOT paying $16M to get him out of his contract with A&M. So if that's the number needed to buy him out of A&M....no freaking way.

Just follow the money. And Buzz is just a 600 percentage coach. Sorry...but this makes zero sense.

And I actually kinda hope it is true as it gives A&M an opportunity to hire a coach that has better potentional to go much deeper in the tournament. Have no problems with Buzz staying either....just dont expect a Sweet 16 anytime soon.
Thats now how it works, the coaches have all the power in this game. The 14.4mil buyout only goes one way. Buzz walking on his own is a much different price. Just like Jimbo had his own buyout if he was fired and a different dollar amount if he left.
bobinator
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We get into this detailed coaching convos and some people still don't understand the difference between a school buyout and a buyout is someone wants to hire him.
Dr. Alister MacKenzie
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dcg4403 said:

This is ALL BS and you are ALL falling for it.

Buzz is NOT taking the Maryland job.

How do I know?

Maryland is NOT paying $16M to get him out of his contract with A&M. So if that's the number needed to buy him out of A&M....no freaking way.

Just follow the money. And Buzz is just a 600 percentage coach. Sorry...but this makes zero sense.

And I actually kinda hope it is true as it gives A&M an opportunity to hire a coach that has better potentional to go much deeper in the tournament. Have no problems with Buzz staying either....just dont expect a Sweet 16 anytime soon.
I love when people who have no clue how buyouts/money actually work say stuff like "how do I know?" and "just follow the money."
MarcAg
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dcg4403 said:

This is ALL BS and you are ALL falling for it.

Buzz is NOT taking the Maryland job.

How do I know?

Maryland is NOT paying $16M to get him out of his contract with A&M. So if that's the number needed to buy him out of A&M....no freaking way.

Just follow the money. And Buzz is just a 600 percentage coach. Sorry...but this makes zero sense.

And I actually kinda hope it is true as it gives A&M an opportunity to hire a coach that has better potentional to go much deeper in the tournament. Have no problems with Buzz staying either....just dont expect a Sweet 16 anytime soon.


That's not how these contracts work. Maryland won't have to pay what's left on the contract.
Texas A&M
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I woke up this morning hoping that he was gone. Imagine my disappointment to learn that there are no new developments.
MarcAg
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Texas A&M said:

I woke up this morning hoping that he was gone. Imagine my disappointment to learn that there are no new developments.


Willard and Buzz's buyouts drop down on April 1st apparently. So might be that time before the first domino falls to see if there is a second domino.
Pumpkinhead
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Now that the smoke is legit, this feels similar to BCG (and a lesser extent Turgeon) where our basketball coach is flirting with a bunch of different other wives looking to dump us.

If he doesn't leave now, it will still linger as an issue with fans because their perception will be he no longer has enthusiasm about coaching here.
zgolfz85
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Dr. Alister MacKenzie said:

dcg4403 said:

This is ALL BS and you are ALL falling for it.

Buzz is NOT taking the Maryland job.

How do I know?

Maryland is NOT paying $16M to get him out of his contract with A&M. So if that's the number needed to buy him out of A&M....no freaking way.

Just follow the money. And Buzz is just a 600 percentage coach. Sorry...but this makes zero sense.

And I actually kinda hope it is true as it gives A&M an opportunity to hire a coach that has better potentional to go much deeper in the tournament. Have no problems with Buzz staying either....just dont expect a Sweet 16 anytime soon.
I love when people who have no clue how buyouts/money actually work say stuff like "how do I know?" and "just follow the money."


Dude said "how do I know"

Swing and a miss
t-rex
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are JT Higgins or TAU reps on Texags? If so, please reach out to Queen and Reese, give them full background on our team structure and style of play the last six years, then offer each of them giant NIL packages
Schrute Farms
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What did you tell?

The initial twitter smoke was that Buzz to Maryland was a done deal after they lose.

The real story, unfortunately, is that Buzz may have been approaching several schools over the last few weeks and Maryland is no different. He may end up at Maryland, but there's still a mess to sort through between Willard, Maryland, buyouts, and Buzz.
TjgtAg08
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Pumpkinhead said:

Now that the smoke is legit, this feels similar to BCG (and a lesser extent Turgeon) where our basketball coach is flirting with a bunch of different other wives looking to dump us.

If he doesn't leave now, it will still linger as an issue with fans because their perception will be he no longer has enthusiasm about coaching here.


I've been wondering this same thing as well. Say he doesn't get the Maryland or Xavier job, how does he come back and look players in the face and get them to buy into playing for him? He thinks fan support is mid right now, it's going to be even worse next year unless he's really successful. What about recruiting? How do you get gets to come here when you are actively and publicly looking for another job?

And unfortunately there is nothing A&M can do about it. We aren't going to eat that buyout unless it's somehow negotiated WAY down (which would be stupid from Buzz's perspective). So we are just kinda stuck.
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He's only loyal when it comes to playing Hefner and Carter even with the season on the line
zgolfz85
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TjgtAg08 said:

Pumpkinhead said:

Now that the smoke is legit, this feels similar to BCG (and a lesser extent Turgeon) where our basketball coach is flirting with a bunch of different other wives looking to dump us.

If he doesn't leave now, it will still linger as an issue with fans because their perception will be he no longer has enthusiasm about coaching here.


I've been wondering this same thing as well. Say he doesn't get the Maryland or Xavier job, how does he come back and look players in the face and get them to buy into playing for him? He thinks fan support is mid right now, it's going to be even worse next year unless he's really successful. What about recruiting? How do you get gets to come here when you are actively and publicly looking for another job?

And unfortunately there is nothing A&M can do about it. We aren't going to eat that buyout unless it's somehow negotiated WAY down (which would be stupid from Buzz's perspective). So we are just kinda stuck.


If that happens and he has to stay, he'd have to be a very different guy from who he's been on the PR front with this fanbase, if the reports are true that he's shipping himself this hard. If he doesn't get either of those jobs, he'd have some egg on his face for sure…not saying he'd care, but he would. Again, if the reports are true, and without him having and agent and especially with him not immediately squashing the rumors, all signs would point to truth there.
85AustinAg
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MarcAg said:

Texas A&M said:

I woke up this morning hoping that he was gone. Imagine my disappointment to learn that there are no new developments.


Willard and Buzz's buyouts drop down on April 1st apparently. So might be that time before the first domino falls to see if there is a second domino.
Yup. We'll know a helluva lot more come April 1 and if Buzz to Maryland doesn't happen then we are stuck with a coach that doesn't want to be here because he's interested in other jobs and his buyout is too much to fire him.
Sterling82
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TjgtAg08 said:

Pumpkinhead said:

Now that the smoke is legit, this feels similar to BCG (and a lesser extent Turgeon) where our basketball coach is flirting with a bunch of different other wives looking to dump us.

If he doesn't leave now, it will still linger as an issue with fans because their perception will be he no longer has enthusiasm about coaching here.


So we are just kinda stuck.

Now there's something you never hear!
zgolfz85
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bobinator
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I like that part of this whole gong show is SMU's fault
Method Man
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Does Maryland even want Buzz? Buzz tried to leave last year too btw. We are like the ugly couple that wants a divorce but nobody likes us
TxAg76
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Grab Underwood from the fighting Illini.
Texas roots.
Great work at SFA
Respectable work at OkSt and Illinois

No idea on contract situations
bobinator
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It's not good. He makes 4.7 already and the buyout is over 10.
TxAg76
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bobinator said:

It's not good. He makes 4.7 already and the buyout is over 10.


Well, ****….
Aggie Dad 26
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As much as I'd like to see Buzz leave, firing him wouldn't be a smart move. I'm not sure why so many are for it.
Method Man
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Aggie Dad 26 said:

As much as I'd like to see Buzz leave, firing him wouldn't be a smart move. I'm not sure why so many are for it.


We aren't going to fire him
 
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