*****ColleyvilleAg06 Bubble Watch*****

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Updated Saturday Morning


1 Seeds

1) Auburn (Lock) I thought coming into the home stretch that Auburn had such a dominant lead in the resume department that the only way they could lose it would be Duke winning out and Auburn losing 2. Well even after that has happened, just taking a fresh look at the numbers, I still think Auburn is the overall #1, although it is much closer than before and it would not shock me to see Duke #1 overall (especially given that Duke owns the H2H). Auburn is still a 100% lock as a 1 seed even after the 0-2 week. (Saturday SEC Semis Tennessee)

2) Duke (Lock) Number 1 in all the quality metrics but lack the elite wins to surpass Auburn for #1 overall. Locked into the 1 seed line and perhaps an outside shot at #1 overall. (Saturday ACC Final Louisville)

3) Houston (Lock) Locked in as a 1 seed, and locked in at #3 overall. (Saturday Big 12 Final Arizona)

4) Florida (Lock) Strong finish to the year #3 in all resume counts and #4 in all quality metrics. Limited damage in the non-conference so if they fall to a 2 seed, that's why. Sure would be fun if it came down to the matchup with Alabama on Saturday and that's what the committee went with. (Saturday SEC Semis Alabama)


2 Seeds


5) Alabama (Lock) Bama makes it interesting for the last 1 seed spot by winning at Auburn to get the best win of anyone all season. It feels strange that it wouldn't move them up a single spot and it feels downright absurd that a team with 11 Quad 1A wins would not be a 1 seed. No doubt it will be a heated debate Alabama vs. Florida for the last spot on the 1 line. It sure would be fun if it came down to Saturday night at the SEC Semis but I'm not sure I have that much faith in the committee. (Saturday SEC Semis Alabama)

6) Tennessee (Lock) Vols are truly deserving of a 1 seed also, having beaten both Florida and Alabama, but the profile from a numbers standpoint is clearly a step behind. Locked in as a 2 seed. (Saturday SEC Semis Auburn)

7) Michigan State (Lock) MSU is as locked into the 2 seed line regardless of the Big 10 tournament. Anything else would be truly shocking. (Saturday Big 10 Semis Wisconsin)

8) St. John's (Lock) I have had St. John's as the last 2 seed for going on close to 3 weeks now and they just keep winning to justify it. Won 8 in a row including beating Creighton, UConn and Marquette twice both away from home. They don't have the quantity of elite wins but 17-4 vs. Quad 1 +2 is better than anyone else below them. (Saturday BE Final Creighton)

3 Seeds



9) Texas Tech (Lock) Great quality metrics, better than St. Joeseph's . They can be elite when healthy. 9-4 vs. Quad 1 is eye opening. (Regular Season Over)

10) Kentucky (Lock) Elite resume numbers 8 quad 1A wins, 11 quad 1. #9 in WAB should keep them as a 3 seed with an outside chance at a 2. (Regular Season Over)

11) Texas A&M (Lock) A&M was pretty much locked into the 3 line before the SECT and I don't think Thursday changes that. 16 quad 1 and quad 2 wins . 5 quad 1A wins, top 10 in the resume ranks, all the numbers indicate they are still a step ahead of the Big 10 teams but with Maryland and Wisconsin still alive in the Big 10 tournament, its possible to get passed depending on how much the committee considers wins over the weekend. 2 seed feels like an extreme long shot the way St. John's has taken command, wouldn't be entirely out of the question but probably >1% chance. 80% 3 seed, 19% 4 seed. Would go back up to over 90% chance for a 3 if Maryland and Wisconsin both lose. (Regular Season Over)

12) Iowa State (Lock) Only 2 quad 1A wins, and down to #25 in KPI so being a 4 seed would not be a shocker. They also have some injury concerns the committee may be factoring in. They will be watching the Big 10 tournament closely to protect their seed. (Regular Season Over)

4 Seeds


13) Maryland (Lock) Great quality numbers, big win at Michigan to close the year and then pounded Illinois in the Big Ten Tournament to cement their spot on the 4 line and represent the conference's best chance to get to a 3 seed (not counting MSU locked in as a 2. (Saturday Big 10 Semis Michigan)

14) Wisconsin (Lock) Not much separates the 2nd tier Big 10 teams. Wisconsin will have a great argument to be the 2nd highest Big 10 team with a win on Saturday. (Saturday Big 10 Semis Michigan State)

15) Oregon (Lock) Predictive metrics still stink but they have racked up some great wins this year 8 quad 1. #12 in WAB but quality #s in the mid 30s. 11th best pure resume numbers. (Regular Season Over)

16) Clemson (Lock) lack of high-end wins (4 quad 1) and a Q3 loss cap the ceiling for this profile. That quad 3 loss to Georgia Tech in 3OT is their only loss since January 7th before falling in the ACCT. That may speak more to how weak the ACC is than anything though. Losing to Louisville puts their spot as the last 4 a bit in jeopardy especially with Arizona coming on. (Regular Season Over)

5 Seeds


17) Arizona (Lock) Faded a bit down the stretch with 5 losses in the last 9 games but a strong performance in the Big 12 tournament. Might be too late to push them back up to a 4 depending on if they get full consideration from the committee for the wins. (Saturday Big Final Houston)

18) Purdue (Lock) Resume slipped a bit down the stretch, and looks a step behind the Wisconsin/ Maryland/Oregon trio. (Regular Season Over)

19) Ole Miss (Lock) 6 Quad1A wins, only Alabama, Auburn and UK have more. Only 1 loss outside of Quad 1. Quality numbers lack a bit but there is enough here to be a 6 seed or perhaps even a 5. (Regular Season Over)

20) Michigan (Lock) Lost the last 3 games of the regular season and the quality numbers took a huge tumble (now sitting at 30+ across the board) (Saturday Big 10 Semis Maryland)



6 Seeds

21) Louisville (Lock) I am a bit higher on Louisville than others and could easily see them as high as a 5 Their resume avg is 16.3 which is higher than Maryland, Arizona, and everyone below a 5. That is a bit surprising given they are 0-3 vs. Quad 1A. They do have 4 quad 1 wins and no bad losses though. Only 1 loss since December 14th. (Saturday ACC Final Duke)

22) BYU (Lock) The hottest team in college basketball, racking up elite wins lately after they had started the season 0-7 vs. quad 1. Made that 6-7 before losing in the Big 12 semis to Houston. (Regular Season Over)

23) UCLA (Lock) Impressive 5-3 vs. quad 1A and 9 Quad 1 wins. All of the resume numbers are in the 20s so there isn't too much of a compelling case to go higher than a 6. (Regular Season Over)

24) St. Mary's (Lock) A loss in the WCC final to Gonzaga wouldn't normally be one that would hurt but #19-30 is so close that I do think this allows a few profiles to slip ahead of them and drops the Gaels back to a 6 seed. (Regular Season Over)


7 Seeds


25) Illinois (Lock) Impressive close to the year blowing out Michigan in Ann Arbor and then beating Purdue. Illinois should be a 6 or 7. (Regular Season Over)

26) Kansas (Lock) 6 quad 1 wins, #18 in the quality metrics, 7 feels like an underseed but with the quality of the 5 and 6 lines I am not sure who you displace. (Regular Season Over)

27) Gonzaga (Lock) Gonzaga had 1 quad 1 win 2 weeks ago but pick up 3 quad 1 wins in their last 4 games to go along with elite (top 10) quality metrics. Their resume will still lag, and you have to wonder if they will get full credit for the tournament wins, but I also believe the committee doesn't want to make a 1 seed play Gonzaga in the 1st weekend. (Regular Season Over)

28) Memphis (Lock) Quality numbers (Avg. 49.7) and 3 quad 3 losses cap this profile as a 7 seed. (Saturday AAC Semis Tulane)


8 Seeds


29) Missouri (Lock) They probably wish they didn't play 8 quad 4 games (more than anyone else in the top 9 seed lines other than St. Mary's. That really hurts their overall profile. Under .500 vs quad 1+2 also pushes them down a bit. There is still so much good on this resume but I wouldn't be shocked at all to see them land as low as an 8 seed given how strong the 6 and 7 lines are. (Regular Season Over)

30) Marquette (Lock) Lose the last 2 to UConn and St. John's to end the year. Should be a 7 or 8 on Selection Sunday. (Regular Season Over)

31) Mississippi State (Lock) It doesn't feel right to put Mississippi State this low but the 5, 6, 7 seed lines are just so competitive this year and this resume feels a touch behind right now. (Regular Season Over)

32) UConn (Lock) From a pure numbers standpoint this resume is no better than an 8 seed. Will they get any kind of bump for their recent tournament success? Several metrics in the mid 30s (Regular Season Over)


9 Seeds


33) Creighton (Lock) Solidly an 8 or 9 seed. 6-5 vs. quad 1 with no bad losses. A little too much of the resume is built on quad 3 and 4 success to be more than an 8. (Saturday Big East Final St. John's)

34) New Mexico (Lock) The win over UCLA and winning the MWC regular season will earn the Lobos a 9 seed. (Regular Season Over)

35) Georgia (Lock) 4 straight big wins to end the year including beating Florida sent the Bulldogs soaring up the seed lines. An early exit in the SECT shouldn't hurt too much. I am a bit higher on Uga but I think a lot of that is folks waking up to see how much the numbers improved over the last 2 weeks. (Regular Season over)

36) Baylor (Lock) Baylor should be breathing a bit easier after beating K State in the Big 12 tournament and probably has done enough to avoid Dayton. With a KPI of 48 though don't be surprised to see them seeded a bit lower though. (Regular Season Over)




10 Seeds


37) Utah State (Lock) - Quality metrics around 50 are a bit scary for an at large team but 9-7 vs. quad 1 + 2 and no bad losses means they are a lock and should be safe enough to avoid Dayton. (Regular Season Over)

38) Oklahoma (Lock) A roller coaster ride for Sooner fans after starting 13-0 non-conference, then 4-12 in conference, felt like they needed to win each of their last 2 conference games vs. Mizzou and Texas and they did just that. 7 Q1 wins with non-conference wins over Michigan, Arizona and Louisville feels like it will be enough. (Regular Season Over)

39) Drake (Missouri Valley Auto bid Secured) Drake avoids all drama associated with Selection Sunday and clinches the auto bid. Should be near the 10 line. 2-0 vs. Quad 1 beating Vanderbilt on a neutral court and winning at Kansas State. Only 3 losses all year and they are all quad 3 losses. Terrible quality numbers in the mid-60's (Regular Season Over)

40) West Virginia (Lock) 4 quad 1A wins, 6 quad 1, and no bad losses. Always a great recipe for avoiding Dayton. Quality metrics in the mid 40s will keep WVU in the 10 seed range even after the early exit to the Big 12 tournament. (Regular Season Over)


11 Seeds

41) Arkansas (Lock) Back-to-back big wins over Vanderbilt and Miss State to end the year moves the Hogs to lock status. 4 Quad 1A wins @Michigan, @Kentucky, @Texas and vs. Mizzou. (Regular Season Over)

42) Vanderbilt (Lock) The loss to Texas in the 1st round of the SECT means that Vandy may be an 11 seed and potentially could wind up in Dayton. Quality numbers into the 40s look very Daytonesque. I am still confident their 5 quad 1 wins and no bad losses have them dancing. (Regular Season Over)

Last 4 at large In


43) Indiana Fairly safe coming into tournament week but a first round exit leaves the Hoosiers vulnerable to bid thieves. (Regular Season Over)

44) San Diego State - Struggled in conference play including an early exit to the MWC tournament. If they ultimately get in it feels like they can thank that November win vs. Houston as the difference. (Regular Season Over)

45) UC San Diego Big West Placeholder Only played 5 games all year above quad 3, splitting with UC Irvine, winning at Utah State and losing at San Diego State and beating CSUN on the road. They also picked up 2 quad 3 losses along the way. They have continued to take care of business winning 13 straight to give themselves a legitimate at large chance. It remains to be seen if they could absorb a loss in the conference tournament…if it was in the finals to UC Irvine, it wouldn't do much damage. (Saturday Big West Final UC Irvine

12 seeds

46) Boise State 2 good wins in the non-conference over St. Mary's and Clemson. 2 quad 3 losses and only a 8-6 record vs. quad 1 and 2 means that they will have a nervous wait if they don't secure the auto bid. Bouncing both San Diego State and New Mexico from the MWC tournament is a nice feather in the cap will they get full credit for the wins? (Saturday MWC Final Colorado State)

47) VCU (Atlantic 10 placeholder) Rams fall 1 win short of being able to enter tournament week with wiggle room. Quality metrics in the high 20s but they don't have a quad 1 win so unless they get the auto bid it is going to be a nervous wait on Selection Sunday. If they don't win the A10 tournament I give them about a 50% chance to sneak in. (Saturday A10 Semis Loyola-Chicago)

48) Xavier Winners of 7 straight to end the year to be on the right side of the bubble going into the conference tournament but they went 0-1 there to leave them very vulnerable to other teams jumping over them and/or a bid thief or 2. (Regular Season Over)

Projecting 20 one bid leagues regardless of conference tournaments, for spots 49-68 (will be adjusted for stolen bids and some at large bids above this line will go away)

One bid leagues, with approximate seed range, will reorder exact seed line close to selection Sunday

49) Southland McNeese 12 seed
50) Big South High Point Dangerous 12/13 seed that I want no part of terrible matchup
51) Atlantic Sun Lipscomb 13 seed
52) Sun Belt Troy 14 seed
53) Coastal UNCW 14 seed
54) Horizon - Robert Morris 14/15 seed
55) Big Sky Montana 15 seed
56) Summit Omaha 15 seed
57) Southern Wofford 15/16 seed
58) OVC SIUE 16 seed (Possibly in Dayton)
59) Patriot League American 16 seed in Dayton
60) NEC St. Francis (PA) 16 seed in Dayton



61) America East Saturday Maine vs. Bryant 15/16 seed
62) Conference USA Saturday Liberty vs. Jax State seed (Liberty a possible 12)
63) MAAC Saturday 15/16 seed Mt. St Mary's vs. Iona
64) MAC Saturday 13/14 seed Akron vs. Miami (OH)
65) MEAC Saturday 16 seed, possible in Dayton SC State vs. Norfolk State
66) SWAC Saturday 16 seed in Dayton Alabama State vs. Jackson State
67) WAC Saturday 13/14 seed Utah Valley vs. Grand Canyon
68) Ivy Sunday likely 13 seed

Possible Bid Thieves (Teams that are not already in and would take away a spot from a team in now by getting an at large)

A year after 5 true bid thieves, it looks increasingly likely we have the opposite this year with as few as 1 if Memphis gets the auto bid.

American: Tulane, North Texas, UAB

Mountain West: Guaranteed bid thief - Boise State, Colorado State

A10 likely a 1 bid league no matter what, VCU has a slim shot to get an at large to make it a 2 bid league:
St. Joseph's, Loyola-Chicago, George Mason

Big West: UC Irvine (will likely be a 1 bid league anyways but this was always the exact scenario that would potentially put 2 BW teams in.



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69) Colorado State Colorado State has stayed on the very fringe of this bubble watch for a month now working their way up from #100 to just 1 spot out. The problem is that their side of the MWC bracket was the weak side so they didn't do much in terms of needle moving wins. And if they lose to Boise State in the final that means CSU would need to rely on being the 5th MWC team in, which seems like it is asking a lot with a 3 bid ACC. (Saturday MWC Final Boise State)

70) North Carolina What a way to lose and potentially end the season. Getting blown out by 24, come all the way back with a chance to win it at the line, clank one and a lane violation on the 2nd. Absolutely brutal. Fall to 1-12 vs. quad 1. They also have a quad 3 loss. I think ultimately UNC will be in the first 5 out Feels like they probably need to beat Duke to stay in. We will see how the rest of the bubble does the next 2 days to see how many spots are still available but looks like ultimately the Tar Heels will be just out. (Regular Season Over)

71) Texas Horns had the #285 non conference and took 2 losses. Then they went 6-12 in the SEC. With those 6 wins and the 2 in the tournament they did get to 7 quad 1 wins which is clearly the highlight of the resume. Minnesota also has 7 quad 1 wins and they won't make the NIT though. Ultimately this just feels like a resume that would typically be a first four out resume, but someone needs to play their way in to get those last spot or 2. (Regular Season Over)

72) Ohio State Lose the first game of the Big 10 Tournament to Iowa to fall to 17-15 on the season. I think had they won that game they would have snuck into Dayton but just 11-15 vs. quad 1 + 2 + 3, Even with 6 quad 1 wins typically you don't get an at large if you can't go .500 vs the top 3 quads. Buckeyes likely headed to the NIT. (Regular Season Over)

73) UC Irvine Well we made it to the exact scenario that could possibly lead to 2 Big West bids. The much more realistic path is UCI beating UCSD, as the UCI at large case will be thin - the quality metrics stink (94h in the BPI and 80 in Torvik) but the resume numbers will at least make it a conversation 39th in KPI. The win at UC San Diego counts as a quad 1A win. (Saturday Big West Final UCSD)

74) Wake Forest Faded badly down the stretch with the resume numbers falling to near 50 and the quality numbers near 70. The neutral court win over Michigan carried them for a bit but with Michigan also fading this looks like a NIT resume. (Regular Season Over)



Eliminated in the last week:
Nebraska (Sunday 3/9)
San Francisco (Monday 3/10)
Dayton (Friday 3/14)
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Awesome! Been waiting for this!
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Thanks for putting this together. You always do a great job!

I posted the same in the other games thread, but the cut line for the SEC teams involved will be fascinating to watch and I'm sure glad we aren't involved!
Texas and Vandy might come to regret their non-con scheduling at 7-11, while I'm not sure OU and Georgia can win enough games. Arkansas may have the best chance just based on remaining schedule and I don't love their chances.
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Thanks for all your work on this!

It's interesting to think what would the SEC prefer. All of the top five teams trade wins with each other and take care of the bubble teams and have five 1 and 2 seeds and less teams in. Or those bottom four all sneak some wins in and get 14 teams in, regardless it's the strongest conference ever it seems.
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I'm curious how the seeding will actually look and if the SEC will take a collective reduction in seed # to prevent so many possible #1 vs #2 seed matchups being from the same conference.

Hasn't the committee historically done everything in their power to prevent a #1 and #2 seed in the same bracket being from the same conference? That's impossible with potentially 5 SEC teams in the top 8. The pessimist in me says one of the five arbitrarily gets dropped to a 3 for no reason other than optics...
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Marsh said:

I'm curious how the seeding will actually look and if the SEC will take a collective reduction in seed # to prevent so many possible #1 vs #2 seed matchups being from the same conference.

Hasn't the committee historically done everything in their power to prevent a #1 and #2 seed in the same bracket being from the same conference? That's impossible with potentially 5 SEC teams in the top 8. The pessimist in me says one of the five arbitrarily gets dropped to a 3 for no reason other than optics...
We are in rare territory as far as the number of high seeds from one conference. However, 2/3 is along the same bracket line. A 2/3 seeds plays a 1 seed in the Elite Eight regardless, so no, it won't matter in this case. We would likely get lined up with one of the SEC teams, but if there was only one SEC 2 seed, perhaps we'd be put in Duke's bracket.
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Thanks for the rundown, particularly on the various metrics.
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Jonah2012 said:

Thanks for all your work on this!

It's interesting to think what would the SEC prefer. All of the top five teams trade wins with each other and take care of the bubble teams and have five 1 and 2 seeds and less teams in. Or those bottom four all sneak some wins in and get 14 teams in, regardless it's the strongest conference ever it seems.


More teams = more money. I am sure they would love it if Kentucky lost in Austin this weekend.
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The NCAA bracketing rules state that a conferences top 4 teams cannot be in the same region if they are in the top 4 seed lines. There is no rule preventing a 1 and a 2 both being in the south region if that 2 seed is the 5th best team from the SEC.
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Great work as always. Seed Watch and the games of the week may be delayed until tomorrow because I'm dealing with a sick kid situation at home.
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I was afraid I was going to be too duplicative with yours - looks like I picked a good week to debut the bubble watch
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Colleyville and bobinator, among others, help make this board the best on TexAgs imo. Really appreciate ya'll's work.
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nah, I was going to start changing it as things narrow down anyway, taking a closer look at team's remaining schedules and which games are the ones to watch that might actually move the needle for us
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Love geeking out to this stuff. So looking forward to the next couple weeks
"I didn't come here to lose!" Charley Moran
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OP edited with some additional detail on those just missing the cut, I will continue to build this out a bit more as i have time.
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ColleyvilleAg06 said:


Thoughts on Tuesdays win I still can't believe we were down 9 at half and by the 8 minute timeout I felt completely comfortable and no stress about cruising to a win. The win didn't do much from a metrics standpoint but good to avoid a loss, watch a few more teams around us take an L and keep chugging towards some huge quad 1A opportunities down the stretch to clinch a 2 seed or potentially even challenge for a 1.

If you are looking for a quick primer on A&M's seeding, my prognostication is roughly a finish in the last 7 games would be equal to the following seeds (subject to the rest of the national landscape so +/- 1 seed line

7-0 or 6-1 = 1 seed
5-2 = 2 seed
4-3 = 3 seed
3-4 = 4 seed
2-5 = 5 seed
1-6 = 7 seed
0-7 = 9 seed

Given we are comfortably in the field, I will keep this BW a bit more brief than prior years and focus the analysis on those near A&M's seed and around the last 4 in/out and the rest just list a ranking, but happy to talk more about each individual team in the more detailed posts.

This is just to get the conversation started. I will add some more detail on those near the cut line tomorrow.

1 Seeds

1) Auburn (Lock) clear #1 with an insane 13 quad 1 wins (no one else has more than 8)
2) Alabama (Lock) 6-1 in quad 1A games and a pretty clear #2
3) Duke (Lock) outstanding predictive numbers
4) Florida (Lock) Lacked the non conf SOS and high-end elite wins that the rest of the SEC had, until the last week winning at Auburn and at Mississippi State to for now claim the 4th
5) one seed.fbfb

2 Seeds
6) Tennessee (Lock) Even after losing on Tuesday night Tennessee has both a better resume than A&M and clearly better predictive #s. But the gap has closed considerably
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7) Texas A&M (Lock) Outstanding resume numbers (better than even Duke) but lagging predictive numbers (for a 2 seed). Ultimately it feels like A&M will get rewarded for going out of conference and racking up several high end wins on a neutral court (Purdue, Texas Tech, Creighton).
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8) Houston (Lock) Predictive metrics darling (#2, #1, #3), it will be interesting to see where the committee has them during the sneak peak reveal on Saturday morning. There are 38 teams that have at least 2 quad 1A wins this season. Houston is not one of those teams. Their lone Q1A is at Kansas which is great but beyond that…they have built their resume on pounding bad teams

9) Purdue (Lock) Very similar overall profile as A&M, A&M has a bit better on the resume numbers, Purdue has better predictives. I am glad A&M owns the head to head on a neutral (Indy) court.

3 Seeds
10) Iowa State (Lock) 7-4 vs quad 1, 9th in SOR, solid overall resume but still behind the top 8, the last team that feels currently in the same league as A&M if this was selection Sunday
11) Arizona (Lock) great predictives, subpar resume #s, didn't do much in non conference but has been elite in the Big 12
12) Michigan (Lock) - rocketing up the seed list particularly after knocking off Purdue, predictive numbers wont give them consideration for anything more than a 3 seed right now
13) Kentucky (Lock) 7 quad 1A wins ties Auburn for the most in the country. That number alone hides a lot of warts with this resume which otherwise would be a few spots lower.

4 Seeds
14) Wisconsin (Lock)
15) Texas Tech (Lock)
16) Kansas (Lock)
17) St. John's The loss to Villanova on Wednesday knocks them down a full seed line and they only have 1 quad 1 game left on the schedule


5 Seeds
18) Marquette
19) Ole Miss
20) Illinois
21) Michigan State

6 Seeds
22) UCLA
23) Missouri
24) Memphis
25) Clemson

7 Seeds
26) Louisville
27) UConn
28) Maryland
29) Creighton

8 Seeds
30) St. Mary's
31) Mississippi State
32) Baylor
33) Oregon

9 Seeds

34) Gonzaga
35) Utah State
36) New Mexico
37) Nebraska

10 Seeds
38) Ohio State
39) West Virginia
40) San Diego State
41) Drake (Missouri Valley Placeholder if they lose and drop out it does NOT open up a slot for someone else as MVC will still have a bid)


11 Seeds
42) Vanderbilt
43) Oklahoma

Last 4 in
44) SMU It is very rare a "power" conference team will have NCAAT worth numbers (top 45 across the board in resume and predictive, yet has not yet scored a single quad 1 win. But then again is the ACC really still a power conference?

45) Arkansas 3 quad 1A wins against Michigan, Kentucky and Texas all away from home, for now have the pigs in. Just 4-7 in the SEC, and if the magic number is 7 wins it is hard to find 3 more wins on this schedule without stealing one somewhere.

46) BYU pretty good predictive numbers for a bubble team, 3 quad 1 wins look nice but not all quad 1 are created equal UCF, West Virginia and Baylor don't exactly move the needle.

47) Georgia similar boat as Arkansas. The wins over Kentucky and St. John's are nice but the losses are piling up and at 4-8 in the SEC you have to squint a bit to see where they can pick up at least 2 more wins needed to have a case.


Projecting 22 one bid leagues regardless of conference tournaments, for spots 47-68 (will be adjusted for stolen bids and some at large bids above this line will go away)

One bid leagues
48) Atlantic 10 -note, several bubble teams that are out now could work their way in to make this a 2 bid league
49) Atlantic Sun
50) America East
51) Big Sky
52) Big South
53) Big West Note, 2 bubble teams that are OUT right now but could possibly win out and get at large consideration
54) Conference USA
55) Coastal
56) Horizon
57) Ivy
58) MAAC
59) MAC
60) MEAC
61) NEC
62) OVC
63) Patriot League
64) SWAC
65) Southern
66) Southland
67) Summit
68) Sun Belt
69) WAC


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70) Texas The horns have much better predictive number (29th in BPI!) than Georgia, Arkansas or even Vanderbilt but at a certain point it has to translate to wins and so far there haven't been enough of them for Texas. Really only 3 good wins to hang their hat on vs. A&M, Mizzou and at Oklahoma and not much even in the decent win category. The path here is to win the 3 @South Carolina, Georgia and Oklahoma, if they can do that they will be in the hunt. Given their lack of results in non conference, the magic number for Texas to get a bid may be 8 SEC wins however which means they may need 1 more in addition to those 3.

71) Wake Forest They were hanging their hat on the "no bad losses" thing and then they took a horrible loss on Wednesday night to Florida State on their home court. Those are the kind of losses that get brought up on Selection Sunday as the reason you are headed to the NIT. The resume numbers are not bad…the predictives are horrendous (71 in KenPom, 71 in Torvik). The rest of the schedule has 2 difficult games @SMU and @Duke, and a ton of just can't take a bad loss games. They need to go 5-1 in these last 6 to feel any kind of comfortable on Selection Sunday.

72) VCU Only 1 quad 1 win, earlier this year at Dayton, no quad 1 games left. Realistically they need to win out, including beating Dayton again and beating George Mason, both home games. If they do that they should be in as an at large. The predictive numbers (mid 30s) are already good enough to get in if they can boost the SOR (53) and WAB (57).

73) Indiana The Hoosiers got their biggest win of the year at Michigan State this week. No losses outside of Quad 1 but there are still some real stinkers in there (losing by 25 to Iowa, 28 to Louisville, 17 to Nebraska, 9 to Northwestern). The profile has some good to it (38th in KPI, and some bac 60th in Torvik). Hard to see this one NOT being one of the last 4 in/first 4 out.

74) North Carolina Similar profile as Indiana, 1 pretty good win (neutral court vs. UCLA) but ultimately just too many losses. They don't have as many bad blowout losses like the Hoosiers (except for this weeks stinker at Clemson) but they do have one black eye of the loss at home to Stanford (Quad 3). Only 1 Quad 1 game left, to end the season at home vs. Duke. The rest of the schedule is 4 quad 3s, a quad 4 and a quad 2. Vs. that weak schedule they probably need to win out to have a realistic chance.

75) Kansas State K State was left for dead in late January with a 7-11 record with only 1 of those wins better than quad 3. Since then they have won 6 straight including picking up 4 quad 1 wins. The profile has gotten a lot better but is still in the mid 50s across both resume and predictive numbers (2 quad 3 losses will do that) so they still have a ways to go. Not an easy remaining schedule with 4 quad 1 games left, but if they can split those and win the other 3 to get to 19 wins I like their chances.


76) UC San Diego Only played 4 games all year above quad 3, splitting with UC Irvine, winning at Utah State and losing at San Diego State. They also picked up 2 quad 3 losses along the way. They do have 1 quad 2 game left at CSUN. They absolutely have to win out to have any chance at an at large but if they do, their resume numbers which are currently in the mid 50s, may get good enough to give them a chance.

77) UC Irvine Similar situation as UCSD. In addition to splitting the season series with UCSD the lost their other quad 1 game at Oregon State and picked up 2 quad 2 wins at UNI and at CSUN. All quad 3 and 4 the rest of the way so they have to win out to have any chance. They are up to 35 in KPI but that feels like an anomaly (56 in SOR, 52 in WAB) and significantly worse in the predictives (99 in BPI. 68 in KenPom, 85 in Torvik).

78) San Francisco
79) George Mason
80) Cincinnati
81) USC
82) Boise State
83) UCF
84) Pitt
85) Xavier
86) Arizona state
87) Dayton
88) Villanova
89) Santa Clara
90) Iowa
91) TCU
92) Rutgers
93) Oregon State
94) Colorado State
95) Georgetown




These teams are not really in the same category as those above them, there is a considerable gap in profile strength but they are still technically alive since they have so many elite wins left on their schedule if they were to win out, but effectively there is no realistic path. Not eliminating them quite yet, since they can technically get to an at large

96) Northwestern
97) LSU
98) Utah
99) Washington
100) Penn state
101) Minnesota
102) Oklahoma State
103) South Carolina

I pretty much agree on everything you posted. I was very surprised you have Gonzaga and Saint Mary's at the 8/9 seed line. I assume they will move up as carnage continues to happen around them. I have them there too and thought my model was off.
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Right now, I have three teams that are in play for the final 1 seed: Houston, Purdue, and Florida. Can A&M put themselves in that discussion? Absolutely. We have the schedule in front of us that will propel us forward if we do very well.
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St. Mary's is close to the 7 line. 31st in SOR and 30th in BPI with limited top end wins i think will hurt them. Best win is over Gonzaga on their home floor...other than that...beating Nebraska on a neutral court

They can move up quite a bit if they win at Gonzaga next weekend. If they lose that i think a 7 is the absolute cap of where they can get to.

For Gonzaga they are 41, 49 and 48 in the resume numbers. Outstanding predictives (12, 11, 18 They end the year with 3 straight quad 1 opportunities and will be one of the teams with the wildest range of outcomes going into those 3 games with anything from out of the tournament altogether if they lose all 3 to playing thier way up to a 5 seed by winning out. The predictive models expect them to win out so any losses are going to tank those numbers.
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LouisvilleAg said:

Right now, I have three teams that are in play for the final 1 seed: Houston, Purdue, and Florida. Can A&M put themselves in that discussion? Absolutely. We have the schedule in front of us that will propel us forward if we do very well.
If today was selection Sunday i feel very confident Florida would be selected in front of those 2, and we will see them as the 4th #1 seed during the Saturday reveal.

If they are not a one seed on Saturday that is a pretty big blow to the league as it signals that even with a clearly better resume they are not going to put 3 one seeds from the SEC.
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ColleyvilleAg06 said:

LouisvilleAg said:

Right now, I have three teams that are in play for the final 1 seed: Houston, Purdue, and Florida. Can A&M put themselves in that discussion? Absolutely. We have the schedule in front of us that will propel us forward if we do very well.
If today was selection Sunday i feel very confident Florida would be selected in front of those 2, and we will see them as the 4th #1 seed during the Saturday reveal.

If they are not a one seed on Saturday that is a pretty big blow to the league as it signals that even with a clearly better resume they are not going to put 3 one seeds from the SEC.
I think the one thing that hurts Florida is the SOS. Is this factored in at all? I don't think so.

Florida - 41
Houston - 24
Purdue - 2
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Strength of Schedule is absolutely a factor but Florida has won more games.

In Strength of record Florida is #3. Houston is #7 and Purdue is #11.

At the end of the day 3 losses vs. the #41 schedule is more impressive than 6 losses vs. the #2 schedule.
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Man I would love to be a 2 seed and have the expectation be making the sweet 16
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Since they are doing the sneak peak on Saturday, might as well add my top teams to Colleyville's:

Definite 1 seeds:
Auburn
Alabama
Duke

Either 1 or 2 seeds:
Florida
Houston
Purdue

2 seeds:
Tennessee
Texas A&M

3 seeds:
Iowa State
Kansas

3 or 4 seeds:
Wisconsin
Texas Tech
Arizona
Michigan

4 seeds:
St. John's
Kentucky
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OP updated with Gonzaga/Memphis/Maryland wins and Nebraska/San Francisco losses
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OP updated with continuing to build this out with narratives on the 4 and 5 lines.
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I think because you've got the current state of things so well locked down that seed watch is going to focus a lot more on each team's projections.
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Missed on Kansas and Kentucky. Had everyone else right.
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Updated with the games through Saturday night (with the exception of UC Irvine playing in Hawaii)
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OP updated as well as the 3rd post to update current metrics.

Lots of eliminations of the fringe bubble contenders the last 2 days. St. John's and Maryland earn lock status.
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ColleyvilleAg06 said:

The NCAA bracketing rules state that a conferences top 4 teams cannot be in the same region if they are in the top 4 seed lines. There is no rule preventing a 1 and a 2 both being in the south region if that 2 seed is the 5th best team from the SEC.


I did not know this rule. It just highlights the importance of beating and staying ahead of Tennessee.
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ColleyvilleAg06 said:

OP updated as well as the 3rd post to update current metrics.

Lots of eliminations of the fringe bubble contenders the last 2 days. St. John's and Maryland earn lock status.
To me, there are 6, maybe 7 teams that have a legit shot at the 1 seed.

Obviously Auburn as they are pretty much a lock for a 1 seed and the top 1 seed. After that, there are 5 other teams in my model that are really close to each other:

Alabama
Duke
Houston
Florida
Tennessee

A&M has an outside shot at a 1 seed because they play 3 teams above them. Win all three and there is a legit shot. Win 2 of 3 and they get to go against Duke. Win 1 of 3 or any other result, they will be destined for Auburn's bracket. At this point, barring an absolute collapse, they will not be worse than a 3 seed.
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I think we've all been sleeping on Wisconsin.
 
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