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DiskoTroop
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Backyard Gator said:

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Can you tell me more about the brisket confit?

Doesn't confit mean to slow cook it in fat? So they render some tallow and cook it in that?


I'm guessing that's the white people way to say Barbacoa.

Doubt it. Do you honestly not know the difference between barbacoa and brisket?




Look up confit, study Barbacoa, and tell me that taco in the picture doesn't look, all to be damned, like barbacoa.

While traditionally cheek, among other bits of the head meat, barbacoa is the dish, not the cut. You can absolutely make brisket barbacoa.
Backyard Gator
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DiskoTroop said:

Backyard Gator said:

DiskoTroop said:

Backyard Gator said:


Can you tell me more about the brisket confit?

Doesn't confit mean to slow cook it in fat? So they render some tallow and cook it in that?


I'm guessing that's the white people way to say Barbacoa.

Doubt it. Do you honestly not know the difference between barbacoa and brisket?




Look up confit, study Barbacoa, and tell me that taco in the picture doesn't look, all to be damned, like barbacoa.

While traditionally cheek, among other bits of the head meat, barbacoa is the dish, not the cut. You can absolutely make brisket barbacoa.

Forget the cut, they smoke their briskets in a monstrous smoker on-site, so it's definitely not barbacoa.

Maybe look at their menu, or watch a video about their restaurant, do some basic research before you try to lecture other people about a restaurant, especially when you're wrong.
NColoradoAG
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Guys, new rule, you have to do at least 30 minutes of research on a bbq joint across their menu, bbq websites, and YouTube before you can comment in this thread.

DiskoTroop
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Backyard Gator said:

DiskoTroop said:

Backyard Gator said:

DiskoTroop said:

Backyard Gator said:


Can you tell me more about the brisket confit?

Doesn't confit mean to slow cook it in fat? So they render some tallow and cook it in that?


I'm guessing that's the white people way to say Barbacoa.

Doubt it. Do you honestly not know the difference between barbacoa and brisket?




Look up confit, study Barbacoa, and tell me that taco in the picture doesn't look, all to be damned, like barbacoa.

While traditionally cheek, among other bits of the head meat, barbacoa is the dish, not the cut. You can absolutely make brisket barbacoa.

Forget the cut, they smoke their briskets in a monstrous smoker on-site, so it's definitely not barbacoa.

Maybe look at their menu, or watch a video about their restaurant, do some basic research before you try to lecture other people about a restaurant, especially when you're wrong.


Yeah their menu says brisket confit, which suggests suadero, which absolutely uses brisket or flank, then is sliced, crisped on a griddle, then served. But all photos, including the one above show shredded meat that's does not appear to be crisped at all, like barbacoa.

The method is somewhat irrelevant however since the presentation is clearly more like barbacoa.

In other words you can call a meatloaf a burger if you want since they're both ground beef, but it's still a meat loaf if large and sliced with a glaze.

In this case, call it suadero or confit if you like, what's on those tortillas looks like barbacoa.
DiskoTroop
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NColoradoAG said:

Guys, new rule, you have to do at least 30 minutes of research on a bbq joint across their menu, bbq websites, and YouTube before you can comment in this thread.



Online menu mentions nothing about this dish. Yelp photos of menu and food show it sparingly. If someone can find a photo of it that DOESN'T look like barbacoa, it'll be the first one I've seen.

Call it what you want... Long cooked in liquid (braise) renders fat too. Not a traditional confit but it wouldn't be the first time a restaurant used a fancy French word to church up their menu.
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DiskoTroop said:

NColoradoAG said:

Guys, new rule, you have to do at least 30 minutes of research on a bbq joint across their menu, bbq websites, and YouTube before you can comment in this thread.



Online menu mentions nothing about this dish. Yelp photos of menu and food show it sparingly. If someone can find a photo of it that DOESN'T look like barbacoa, it'll be the first one I've seen.

Call it what you want... Long cooked in liquid (braise) renders fat too. Not a traditional confit but it wouldn't be the first time a restaurant used a fancy French word to church up their menu.

As much fun as it's been seeing yall bicker, it really doesn't matter.

I'll post a picture of the 'Costra'.
DiskoTroop
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LoOk At ThIs DeLiCiOuS hAmBuRgEr
Backyard Gator
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Thank you for the picture.

Is that word before tortilla supposed to be 'flour'? I can't read it.
RGV AG
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Barbacoa can be other cuts of meat besides the typical tejano head/cheek/tongue trinity. That is why in the past, and still some to this day, will advertize "barbacoa de cabeza" or on menus "barbacoa de cachete". Quite a few places in STX will throw other cuts of meat into barbacoa, when I would make it in the crockpot at home I would put some pieces of roast and such in order for it to appeal more to the wifa and daughter (which she would eat eagerly until she saw me pulling the hide off a tongue and then it was no mas barbacoa).

In most of Mexico if you ask for or order barbacoa it is going to be sheep/lamb/mutton, no beef.

In the RGV after early Saturday morning football practice a usually large group of us would go to one of the southside meat markets and get several pounds of barbacoa. We would tell the white boys on the team that it was BBQ fajita shavings so that they would eat it, they never complained and grew to love it. I wonder if some of them figured it out later on.

ETA, Costras in Spanish are scabs, like in the scab on a cut.
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Just saw that Brotherton's is shutting down.
AustinCountyAg
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anyone been watch Pitmasters on the foodnetwork? The couple that owns 2M in San Antonio is on the show and absolutely been killing it. I'd venture to guess they've won around 70% of all of the competitions thus far.

Speaking of 2M, the wife and I were in the area over the weekend and thanks to the OB board they led us to try 2M. I had never heard of the place before it was recommended over there. It was great. The brisket was awesome, homeade tortillas were legit, and the sides were great as well. The BBQ syrup/sauce was damn good. Ate lunch on a Thursday around 12:30 and was surprised we only had to stand in line maybe 10 minutes at most. I'd bet the Pitmasters show is going to make them even more busy.

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I was looking for some bbq south of Fort Worth that would be open for dinner. Found a spot I wasn't familiar with - Smoke 'N Ash BBQ in south Arlington. I love some Texas BBQ fusion, but I ain't ever seen Tex-Ethiopian on the menu before.



I wanted to get the platter for 2, but I restrained myself and put together this plate of awaze glazed Tex-Ethiopian bbq with brisket, rib tips, and ribs. The presentation might not look great, but this was some very good barbecue - especially those rib tips.

I asked the waitress what her favorite sides were and she said "the beans and cole slaw" and I was like nah man, I need some Ethiopian sides. The food was very good and they're using different flavors than the other spots that just follow the familiar Aaron Franklin formula. It was a cool stop. They had a bunch of other meats, including lamb and a full menu of "Classic Texas style barbecue" as well as a full Ethiopian Menu without the smoked meats.

It begs for another visit and I'd love to take the family out here. Might have to put together a Six Flags trip.

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I haven't been there yet, but they've gotten recent recognition from both Michelin and James Beard so they must be legit.
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AustinCountyAg said:

anyone been watch Pitmasters on the foodnetwork? The couple that owns 2M in San Antonio is on the show and absolutely been killing it. I'd venture to guess they've won around 70% of all of the competitions thus far.


Been watching as well and enjoying it. Didnt see last night's episode yet. Pretty interesting competition set up. I dont know how the competitors will survive cooking for 7 straight days. It doesn't hurt that Jess Pryles is pretty easy on the eyes.

It was really smart for Esaul to bring his wife for the Comp. She started a brick and mortar bakery 5 or so years after they opened 2M and has formal pastry training. Thats a huge advantage in the competition IMO even if they're only cooking live fire.
Backyard Gator
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Either someone on here mentioned them, or they've been featured recently in the news, because I've actually heard about this place.

Did you try to injera bread?
CDub06
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That's the injera rolled up in the center. It was fine. Not as spongy as others I've had. I wasn't sure if I was supposed to eat the sides with my fork or the injera.
Backyard Gator
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CDub06 said:

That's the injera rolled up in the center. It was fine. Not as spongy as others I've had. I wasn't sure if I was supposed to eat the sides with my fork or the injera.

I'd have googled that for sure.
Matsui
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Yes I'm watching it and agree they are killing it.
Matsui
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I'm glad you found it. The spot is legit. I hope they continue to have success.
agcrock2005
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In Spring tomorrow morning then heading back to north Fort Worth. Leaving Spring about 10, where should I stop? Bar A? NM: They're closed Monday, just like all the other good places.
AustinCountyAg
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2m did work in last nights pitmasters. Should've won the entire meal competition at the end but I think the judges just gave it to the Canadians just to try and make the show more interesting.
CyAg
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Sure seemed that way.
Backyard Gator
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Anyone tried DeMaria's in Waco?

I may have to drive down there at some point.
Martin Cash
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Terry Black's Houston location now open on Shepherd Dr. between 13th and 14th.
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Martin Cash said:

Terry Black's Houston location now open on Shepherd Dr. between 13th and 14th.

Highly confused by his plans and vision for that location. Saw an interview where he said a boutique hotel, gym, bathhouse.....wtf....were all in the works for there
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htxag09 said:

Martin Cash said:

Terry Black's Houston location now open on Shepherd Dr. between 13th and 14th.

Highly confused by his plans and vision for that location. Saw an interview where he said a boutique hotel, gym, bathhouse.....wtf....were all in the works for there

That's the plan, and the bath house would be underground. Boutique hotel I could see, since those are trendy right now. Terry Blacks has big expansion plans.
Backyard Gator
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TXAG 05 said:

htxag09 said:

Martin Cash said:

Terry Black's Houston location now open on Shepherd Dr. between 13th and 14th.

Highly confused by his plans and vision for that location. Saw an interview where he said a boutique hotel, gym, bathhouse.....wtf....were all in the works for there

That's the plan, and the bath house would be underground. Boutique hotel I could see, since those are trendy right now. Terry Blacks has big expansion plans.

So they're going from BBQ to full-on hospitality complexes now?

Is this supposed to be an underground public bath house?
CDub06
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Steakhouse too. Hotel has been the plan all along. A small boutique bbq themed hotel.
Bulldog73
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It's good, but not a top 50 style place. Their brisket is served with "gravy" as they call it. Really just drippings. Jasper's is also pretty decent.
Backyard Gator
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Bulldog73 said:

It's good, but not a top 50 style place. Their brisket is served with "gravy" as they call it. Really just drippings. Jasper's is also pretty decent.

When you say "not top 50 style", for you mean it is non-traditional in that it isn't like most Central Texas BBQ joints? I know they made the TM Top 50 list in 2003.

I'm aware they basically braise the beef bollito di manzo-style before smoking it in their brick smoker, it's a process that evolved from when their ancestors were in Sicily.
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Martin Cash said:

Terry Black's Houston location now open on Shepherd Dr. between 13th and 14th.


Went tonight for dinner, got brisket, turkey, and jalapeño cheese sausage. It was good, but not better than Pinkertons, Pit Room, or Truth. Nice building and lots of cutting stations so the line moves a lot quicker than other places. It's close to the house, but not sure I'll be back since I can be at Pinkertons in the same amount of time or drive a little longer and be at Truth or Pit Room
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Trevinos in Jacksboro closed for the second time
Mathguy64
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Sitting in the RV in Bastrop. We are planning a crawl through Lockhart tomorrow. I don't expect great, I expect history.
Mathguy64
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We did Brisket, ribs and a link at Original Blacks and Smitty's

Blacks was better. The sausage was tighter and the brisket was better with a much better bark. The ribs at Smitty's were better. The link at Smitty's was just loose in the casing.




ETA we were going to do Kreuz' but we tapped out. I have had it before. Brisket, clod and link.

The history of Smitty's market is cool stuff. Similar vibes to the history in Taylor at Louie Mueller's. Cool stuff.
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After yesterday's old school, we hit Leroy and Lewis.

Barbacoa, German and Chorizo sausages, frito pie and chorizo papas. Just great stuff.


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