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In reply to cena05 • 10:21a, 2/23/24
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It's a bit overplayed. All of us get bourbon through various means.

Someone here buy it off secondary and then post "look what I found on the shelf." Some take employees out to lunch and bring them food during their shift. Some blow the manager in the back. Some people enjoy standing in line for a couple days drinking with their friends for a big drop. Some have a connection with their local mom and pop that they get their bottles from.

It's all gooood.
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In reply to KDubAg • 10:22a, 2/23/24
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Assuming George T Stagg and not the Stagg Jr. because $800 for Stagg would be insane.
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In reply to AgCzar • 10:30a, 2/23/24
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I'll ask when I go back. Still learning all the variations.
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10:45a, 2/23/24
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I don't really have an opinion on the Spec's drops but i do wish they would fix their ****ing search so that you can check all local stores rather than just one at a time.

Im happy to stop into a store and see what is on the shelf but that is about the extent of my effort. If folks want to put in more effort than that and are rewarded for it, good for them.

I switched to bourbon 20+ year ago because it was cheap and available. That certainly isn't the case anymore and I don't care to keep up with whatever new label of rebranded MGP is on the shelf. I'll just stick to the readily available old favorites if i do drink bourbon but these days all i really buy is American Single Malts, which so far even the best bottles will just linger on the shelf.
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In reply to KDubAg • 10:48a, 2/23/24
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George T Stagg comes in basically a wine bottle. Stagg jr (or now just Stagg) is in a more stock bottle and just says STAGG on the label. Secondary for GTS is around 800. Secondary for Stagg is around 150-200? not quite sure of the current rate.
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In reply to AgDev01 • 10:59a, 2/23/24
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AgDev01 said:
I don't really have an opinion on the Spec's drops but i do wish they would fix their ****ing search so that you can check all local stores rather than just one at a time.

Im happy to stop into a store and see what is on the shelf but that is about the extent of my effort. If folks want to put in more effort than that and are rewarded for it, good for them.

I switched to bourbon 20+ year ago because it was cheap and available. That certainly isn't the case anymore and I don't care to keep up with whatever new label of rebranded MGP is on the shelf. I'll just stick to the readily available old favorites if i do drink bourbon but these days all i really buy is American Single Malts, which so far even the best bottles will just linger on the shelf.


There is so much trash on the shelf at TW/Specs.

On a good day I'm happy to walk out with a bottle Fortaleza.
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11:22a, 2/23/24
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How's the Henry McKenna?
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In reply to KDubAg • 11:23a, 2/23/24
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Idk if they haggle much, but if you could get them closer to 150 for the Stagg, I would walk out with that one.
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In reply to KDubAg • 11:26a, 2/23/24
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Not worth $75 that's for sure.

It's sitting on the shelves for MSRP.
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In reply to Aggie Therapist • 11:28a, 2/23/24
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Aggie Therapist said:
AgDev01 said:
I don't really have an opinion on the Spec's drops but i do wish they would fix their ****ing search so that you can check all local stores rather than just one at a time.

Im happy to stop into a store and see what is on the shelf but that is about the extent of my effort. If folks want to put in more effort than that and are rewarded for it, good for them.

I switched to bourbon 20+ year ago because it was cheap and available. That certainly isn't the case anymore and I don't care to keep up with whatever new label of rebranded MGP is on the shelf. I'll just stick to the readily available old favorites if i do drink bourbon but these days all i really buy is American Single Malts, which so far even the best bottles will just linger on the shelf.


There is so much trash on the shelf at TW/Specs.

On a good day I'm happy to walk out with a bottle Fortaleza.
When is the last time you saw a Fortaleza on the shelf?
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In reply to reedsterg • 11:35a, 2/23/24
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Like two weeks ago at Total Wine.
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In reply to Aggie Therapist • 11:38a, 2/23/24
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Not worth $75 that's for sure.

It's sitting on the shelves for MSRP.


I really like it, I'd say it's worth $60 though.
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In reply to KDubAg • 11:38a, 2/23/24
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I really enjoy the McKenna because I'm a heaven hill fan, but it's a SiB so it can vary. I have two bottles currently, one is good and one is phenomenal. So you're taking a chance, but if you're lucky you'll be glad you got it.

AT is right though, they are more available than they used to be and you may be able to find it cheaper. I'm personally not going to hate it at $74 though because current msrp is $67-$69.
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In reply to Aggie Therapist • 11:40a, 2/23/24
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I haven't seen Fortaleza on the shelf in two years. I've found more Blantons, OWA, and W12 on shelves than Fortaleza.
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In reply to FTAco07 • 11:43a, 2/23/24
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FTAco07 said:
I haven't seen Fortaleza on the shelf in two years. I've found more Blantons, OWA, and W12 on shelves than Fortaleza.
Same here, I make a lap down the tequila aisle every time I'm in a store just to check and never see it.
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In reply to FTAco07 • 11:45a, 2/23/24
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FTAco07 said:
I haven't seen Fortaleza on the shelf in two years. I've found more Blantons, OWA, and W12 on shelves than Fortaleza.


I literally have the opposite problem lmao
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In reply to reedsterg • 11:46a, 2/23/24
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It wasn't in the tequila aisle. It was on the end cap shelves facing the register.

I miss stuff on the end caps all the time unless I see someone with a bottle walking around and ask "hey where did you find that".
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In reply to KDubAg • 12:46p, 2/23/24
Not sure where you are located but quite a bit of stores around houston have that McKenna 10 for $50ish. That case looks eerily familiar to a small liquor store on the west side just inside bw8 if I am not mistaken
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1:43p, 2/23/24
Specs on highway 6 and huffmeister has a lot of stuff out today apparently.

If anyone is able to go and wants to get a bottle of EHT for me I would be grateful
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2:12p, 2/23/24
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What are everyone's overrated high $ bottles (over $400 secondary)?

For me they are:

CYPB
Weller SiB
OFBB
ORVW
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In reply to KDubAg • 2:15p, 2/23/24
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I never was the biggest fan of finished bourbons, but High West has that process down. If you can get a store pick from them, I highly recommend it.
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In reply to Phat32 • 2:33p, 2/23/24
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Phat32 said:
What are everyone's overrated high $ bottles (over $400 secondary)?

For me they are:

CYPB
Weller SiB
OFBB
ORVW


Agree with all except ORVW. That's a damn good pour.
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In reply to Phat32 • 2:39p, 2/23/24
Phat32 said:
What are everyone's overrated high $ bottles (over $400 secondary)?

For me they are:

CYPB
Weller SiB
OFBB
ORVW


Weirdly I like the CYPB, over the likes of W12 and other offerings. The SiB I still have yet to figure out why it's so expensive. Agree that it by no means warrants the cost IMO
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In reply to aggiebrother33 • 3:00p, 2/23/24
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CYPB is fantastic!
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In reply to FireJimbonow • 3:12p, 2/23/24
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I just picked up a single barrel and a larceny barrel proof. Appreciate your heads up!
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In reply to Tksymm7 • 3:15p, 2/23/24
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Sounds like it's raining EHT and Heaven Hill products
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In reply to Aggie Therapist • 3:45p, 2/23/24
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I was on my way home from work this afternoon (couldn't sit in the office any longer with this weather), and said F it, I'm tired of striking out lol.
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4:18p, 2/23/24
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I'm not a fan in general of having to source bottles from the secondhand market, etc.

Free market should be raising prices until the scalper's economic incentive is removed.
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In reply to Naveronski • 4:37p, 2/23/24
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Im not a fan of the secondary market and don't participate but it is hard to deny that it does make things available to folks who are willing to spend the money.

I also don't think it is as easy as raising prices. Prices have been going up across the board yet Buffalo Trace, while raising prices, certainly hasn't increased them enough to find an equilibrium. Part of that is because the scarcity adds so much to their desirability.

If they raise prices to the point where EHT SB is now regularly on the shelf at most places for 125 or so are people going to buy it or will they buy it once or twice then eventually start going with something else that is a bit cheaper? I think once people get used to seeing it they would start to choose other things especially if it is well over the current MSRP. See McKenna 10 or HH BiB as examples. Even ECBP is quickly getting there as well. I've certainly bought bottles that i didn't really want but had to get just because i could. FOMO is real.
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In reply to AgDev01 • 4:40p, 2/23/24
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FOMO and the fear of passing up a bottle you might not see again for 6 months.

Also in full disclosure, I got the Larceny and EHT Single Barrel for basically $65.00 a piece. Which I would assume is MSRP or dang near it.
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In reply to Tksymm7 • 4:44p, 2/23/24
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and at those prices i would happily buy both regularly.
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4:57p, 2/23/24
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Nothing that I could get my hands on around me.
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5:10p, 2/23/24
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Today's purchases:

2023 Michters Bomberger's
WFP
CYPB
W12
ER10

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5:11p, 2/23/24
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FLATOUT with the sac drag
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5:17p, 2/23/24
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At a conference in San Diego. Found Bookers at the bar.
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