Where did you find it?

Local chain here in Midland had two bottles. Enjoyed my first sampling last night. May have to pick up the other bottle

Hey Dry Fly, I was at one of my local shops in Houston yesterday looking for Pappy and they had 5 to 6 bottles.

^What the. Where?

I'd like to know where too.

Just to clarify, they had BMH. I was looking to see if they got their fall shipment of Pappy in yet.

So, you're keeping the location a secret? You can PM me if you want to divulge.

Ok, got it now.

Please do not post the location here. If you do, I will be compelled to go buy some.

Specs on Brodie had six bottles of Black Maple Hill.

The Specs in CS had a hald dozen bottles the otehr day.

Mathguy - did you have a taste test or five there?

No. I was really in looking to see if any BTAC had snuck in under the radar.

Dreaded DP

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In Response to DryFly's Commenents:

"Yes I have tried it and I also had a conversation with the Texas rep for Buffalo Trace at the Specs downtown in Houston last week and he said the exact same thing. Don't believe me or him? Well, I read an interview with the master distiller at BT and he said it as well. One would think he knows what he's doing. Are Pappy 15 and 20 different than Weller 12? Sure, but not so much that it warrants the difference in price. That's what the people at BT have to say. Why do they sell Pappy for more? Because they can.

The story on Pappy is very similar to that of BMH. It has a kicks @ss label and a cult following. People want it because they can't get it. People want what they can't get and the price goes up. When the price goes up, people think that means higher quality, which makes them want it even more, which means the price goes up, and on and on and on..."

Brother, you are wrong on just about everything. First off, do you really believe what a Buffalo Trace Rep at the Downtown Houston Specs tells you??? He is a SALESPERSON selling a product. I have probably spoken to him before, and sadly know more about the bourbon he sells than he does. He is trying to sell you Weller 12, which is on the shelf. Pappy is not on the shelf, it sells itself. No, they don't sell Pappy more because they can, because it is different. Yes, the current ORVW 10/107 and 12 Year Lot B are Buffalo Trace Distillate. But keep this in mind, Weller 12 is probably comprised of dumps that include 100+ barrel that are not Quality Controlled. Julian VW tries every barrel that goes into the VW line. Basically, when you buy a VW product, you are getting Honey Barrels. Also, in prior years, Pappy 15 and 20 have not been 100% Buffalo Trace juice, rather a combination of S-W, Bernheim, and possibly some BT mixed in. Is Pappy worth the secondary market pricing, probably not, but it is in a class of its own. I buy Weller 12 by the case as my House Bourbon, based on the recipe and VALUE of its pricing, but it is night and day from Pappy 15 and 20.

Come on now, current Black Maple Hill bottling's is not the same story as PVW.

Keep on Keeping on and don't believe everything you read on the internet...

Another Comment about current NAS Black Maple Hill - It is basically "sourced" bourbon sold to KBD who then sell it to a guy that lives in a house on a hill in California and rebottles it for him. Therefore, there are 2 middlemen in this bottling getting their piece of the pie. The only thing you are buying is a LABEL with a forest in the background...

I opened my Stagg Junior tonight after the D managed to get that last three and out with three minutes to go.

I like it. The profile reminds me very much of Stagg Senior, but it's almost like it's the culls from what was going to be Senior, as if it wasn't going to mature correctly. What I'm trying to say is that the flavor is there, but not as intense. Of course, it's hot, but not as much as I would have thought. Perhaps I diluted mine a bit much, but I only added a small splash of filtered water. (At 137 proof, you have to add a splash). There's nice brown sugar and vanilla, maybe a bit of cinnamon, but surprisingly to me, not as much oak.

A second (small) pour without water confirms the above. Nice, but...

Still, I only paid $42 so I'm pleased. Thoughts from anyone else who's had it?

Stagg, Jr is a brute, no doubt. It has the profile of Sr, but half the age. As much as I hate adding anything to bourbon, this one needs a few drops of spring water. It's a fun one to work with though...

After the Aggie victory tonight, I made a pour of Pappy 20 and then followed that up with some WL Weller Centennial from S-W = Bourbon Coma...

Don't know how much Hudson gets play on this thread, but considering most of y'all are in Texas and I don't think Hudson distributes there, probably isn't seen much down south. Anyway, I've been a fan of Hudson's Baby Bourbon in the past, but just got some of their Four-Grain Bourbon as a gift recently and it's damn phenomenal. Very smooth, very drinkable, needs no help from water or ice to make it go down easy. Highly recommend a trial if you come across it, or you're in the Northeast

The BT rep wasn't trying to sell me anything. In fact, we spent a lot of time talking about non-BT distillery products. You may be right on many points, but not that one.

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The BT rep wasn't trying to sell me anything. In fact, we spent a lot of time talking about non-BT distillery products. You may be right on many points, but not that one.

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Fair enough. Maybe we could have a drink sometime and discuss what he told you. Wait, the BT rep wasn't trying to sell you anything? I guess he wasn't a good salesman then, just kidding!

He was walking past me and noticed I had a bottle of Stag in my hand. He made a comment that I had a good bottle of whiskey and the conversation went from there. We spent most of the time just talking about whiskey in general.

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Don't know how much Hudson gets play on this thread, but considering most of y'all are in Texas and I don't think Hudson distributes there, probably isn't seen much down south

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I see Hudson all over the place in Texas, but it's $50+ for that little bottle.

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I see Hudson all over the place in Texas, but it's $50+ for that little bottle.

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Same here. I'm not going to pay 50+ for 375 ml, especially for some yankee whiskey.

Ha!

Same here as well. That's like buying salsa made in New York City.

Co-worked grabbed me a bottle of Four Roses Private Sepection Single Barrel (barrel strength). Supposedly it's only available at the distillery. I love FRSB and can't wait to try this.

Four Roses has a pretty solid private barrel selection program, so there are many stores and bar that have their own.

The one Poison Girl did was pretty stellar, so I can only imagine how good Four Roses gift shops private barrel is. Consider yourself lucky to have snagged a bottle!

I'm stoked to have it it! Warehouse VE, Barrel 24-3P, and Recipe OESK (described as spicy characters including cinnamon & rich pipe tobacco).

Re: The Weller 12 v. Pappy Debate

http://thebourbontruth.tumblr.com/post/56551148475/who-dang-stole-my-12-year-old-weller-i-think-it-was

Also, agree with most about Hudson. I am not paying $100 per 750 ml for just any bourbon. For those that have had it, do you think it is worth that price?

"Re: The Weller 12 v. Pappy Debate"

To be fair, the "debate" is Weller 12 vs Pappy 15/20.

Not Weller 12 vs a small batch Pappy 12.

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They tap the magic wand and the formerly $28 Weller 12s are magically transformed into 12 Year Van Winkle for $70 and resold for $200.

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To be fair, the "debate" is Weller 12 vs Pappy 15/20.

Not Weller 12 vs a small batch Pappy 12.

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Weller 12 is often compared to Van Winkle Lot B 12 yr. No one halfway familiar with either product really compares Weller 12 to PVW 15 or 20, other than they are now distilled at the same place.

I agree Quantum ace