Next thing you know they will not let the fish order lattes at the Quad Starbucks...
This is where I'm sitting. Feels like they violated the training plan and certainly should be held accountable for that but it doesn't seem to raise to the level of a hazing charge that can bring with it actual criminal charges by the DA.AGhistorian said:
So if these cadets violated the approved training plan, and conducted these activities in a manner that was not authorized during FOW then they would be in the wrong. Now there may be an argument, between is this being hazing and some other type of disciplinary matter, but either way not following the approved training plan isn't a good thing.direction things are headed in.
Exactly, nor do I expect that he will be able to address these charges even after they are decided on. Even if the students choose to open up about the case in public, university officials will be prevented from addressing it.AGhistorian said:
It tells me that a staff member posting any information on a specific student conduct case would be both a violation of University Rules, and The Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act (FERPA).
AGhistorian said:
It tells me that a staff member posting any information on a specific student conduct case would be both a violation of University Rules, and The Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act (FERPA).
chickencoupe16 said:AGhistorian said:
It tells me that a staff member posting any information on a specific student conduct case would be both a violation of University Rules, and The Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act (FERPA).
I'm not up to speed on the University Rules, but FERPA leaves room for a statement to be made. No, he couldn't say "John Johnson kicked multiple footlockers, damaging both the footlockers and their contents." but a broad discussion of how the Corps seeks to remain tough but keep up with the times can certainly be had. I think these charges are just another example of the changes seen in the Corps that many of us view as detrimental to the experience.
CharlieBrown17 said:chickencoupe16 said:AGhistorian said:
It tells me that a staff member posting any information on a specific student conduct case would be both a violation of University Rules, and The Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act (FERPA).
I'm not up to speed on the University Rules, but FERPA leaves room for a statement to be made. No, he couldn't say "John Johnson kicked multiple footlockers, damaging both the footlockers and their contents." but a broad discussion of how the Corps seeks to remain tough but keep up with the times can certainly be had. I think these charges are just another example of the changes seen in the Corps that many of us view as detrimental to the experience.
G-Ram posts plenty and addresses far more on here than I would as Commandant.
I don't see why you would expect him to comment on a thread about an on going hazing investigation.
2004FIGHTINTXAG said:
Let's try to keep name calling out if it. Especially on this board. We can disagree and argue our points without calling names.
I'm not a fan of what's been going on at A&M either.
Internet tough guy calls out O-7 Flag Officer on college affiliated entertainment board. Wow.Dumb_Loggy said:
Ramirez is a putz and will continue to push his SJW agenda right alongside Young.
B Company in the 80's was the worst of the 4 outfits in the band, even behind A CompanyQuote:
Full disclosure - I'm a B-Company StreetFighter so I'm naturally a little biased.
ABATTBQ87 said:B Company in the 80's was the worst of the 4 outfits in the band, even behind A CompanyQuote:
Full disclosure - I'm a B-Company StreetFighter so I'm naturally a little biased.
B Company has been the best since the 1976 split into 4 outfits.ABATTBQ87 said:B Company in the 80's was the worst of the 4 outfits in the band, even behind A CompanyQuote:
Full disclosure - I'm a B-Company StreetFighter so I'm naturally a little biased.
CanyonAg77 said:B Company has been the best since the 1976 split into 4 outfits.ABATTBQ87 said:B Company in the 80's was the worst of the 4 outfits in the band, even behind A CompanyQuote:
Full disclosure - I'm a B-Company StreetFighter so I'm naturally a little biased.
So all the bashing of the Commandant for weakening the Corps was much to do about nothing.CharlieBrown17 said:
Rumor has it all cadets have been returned to outfits and leadership positions from this event.
aggiejim70 said:
A Co, B Batt, whatever. Why can't all you New Army BQ's just play nice.
Beyond RUMINT, anyone know how this actually turned out?CharlieBrown17 said:
Rumor has it all cadets have been returned to outfits and leadership positions from this event.
74OA said:Beyond RUMINT, anyone know how this actually turned out?CharlieBrown17 said:
Rumor has it all cadets have been returned to outfits and leadership positions from this event.
Yep.CharlieBrown17 said:
The academies also have way less autonomy at the cadet level. They're told what/when/how to train by active duty stationed there.
I would submit that the ability to fail has been mostly removed from our cadets, as opposed to my day.Naveronski said:
...and the ability to fail and learn from it ends up making our officers better than theirs.