E-1, E-2, Sq-17. If you're son is not interested in a contract. If he is interested in pursuing a scholly tell him to join C-2, K-2 or H-1. Do not let your son join N-1 unless you want them to never pick up someone of the opposite sex

^^^^ Well formulated advice right here. I like the way you used absolutely no reasoning to justify your claims and then felt like bashing another highly recommended outfit, because why? They're integrated? Classy.

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My understanding with removing the prior system of just assigning outfits was that cadets stopped caring about recruiting in the 90's somewhere.

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Are there any numbers about how many cadets are recruited and whether they finish their four years?

I find it hard to fathom someone with no previous exposure to the Corps joining up and being successful based on a phone call or summer seminar meeting.

Did i say anything about integration?

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Are there any numbers about how many cadets are recruited and whether they finish their four years?

I find it hard to fathom someone with no previous exposure to the Corps joining up and being successful based on a phone call or summer seminar meeting.

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Well aside from phone push and summer recruiting, there are JROTC competitions that cadets can volunteer for on the weekends, trips to various events, and stuff like winter recruiting. Again, I wasn't around back then, but I know we had a hard enough time getting volunteers for events like JCAP and the Aggie Eagle program while I was a freshman/sophomore. Stuff started improving by the time I was a junior though.

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Do not let your son join N-1 unless you want them to never pick up someone of the opposite sex

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Don't really understand all the N-1 bashing going on around here. I was actually talking with one of the bulls just a few weeks ago and he was saying how many problems multiple outfits are having (including some of the ones mentioned above), with the exception of a few. And he specifically noted that N-1 was doing really well, along with one other unit.

I'm guessing ccmu was a knight? Or as we called them, a 'carnie'?

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Don't really understand all the N-1 bashing going on around here. I was actually talking with one of the bulls just a few weeks ago and he was saying how many problems multiple outfits are having (including some of the ones mentioned above), with the exception of a few. And he specifically noted that N-1 was doing really well, along with one other unit.

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Aside from the Corps and MUC leaders next year who are from N-1, I believe E-2's CO next year is also from N-1. So, it's pretty clear that this outfit is still doing quite well. This fact also probably helps explain the jealousy/bashing of N-1 in this thread.

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E-2's CO next year is from N-1? Highly doubt that.

Sorry, but it's still true. And, I'm sure E-2 will still be just fine.

I find it hard to believe that at least one rising senior from the outfit isn't qualified to be CO. Sounds like Ramirez is trying to screw E-2 after they got in trouble this last year. I have a feeling it won't go so well having a CO from another outfit. E-2 and N-1 are completely different types of outfits.

Yep, it's a leadership challenge, but I'm optimistic that they'll be big boys and rise above it.

Ramirez's plan to put guys in random outfits as CO is foolish. It was pretty rare to have a CO from a different outfit when I was in the Corps and that was not too long ago. Not a big fan of Ramirez and how he's running things.

Ditto. I bet Ramirez is trying to punish e-2 for getting some alcohol violations recently.

I don't know what happened with E-2, but the same thing would have happened back in my day if we had not been a little lucky and smart enough to cover our asses and drink in a "controlled environment." In fact, the same thing will happen in the real world, too.

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I find it hard to fathom someone with no previous exposure to the Corps joining up and being successful based on a phone call or summer seminar meeting.

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CanyonAg, I know that I'm an exception, but I joined the Corps based on the advice of an old Ag neighbor and signed up before I ever saw a CT or even stepped foot on the campus. I'm pretty sure that my tea sip dad continued to wonder for years afterward how he managed to let that happen.

Multiple outfit COs were from other outfits, or were removed and replaced with cadets from other outfits, when I was there not too long ago. Either the entire junior class was implicated in something stupid, didn't have good enough grades, didn't interview well with the selection board, or some combination of the above. But E-2 was used to send leaders to other outfits back then. More proof that stuff changes year over year.

One thing is for sure though, it is in E-2's best interest to work with the new CO and not try and rebel against him.

And for those of you former E-2 guys, at least they didn't pick an N-1 wag.

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I find it hard to believe that at least one rising senior from the outfit isn't qualified to be CO. Sounds like Ramirez is trying to screw E-2 after they got in trouble this last year. I have a feeling it won't go so well having a CO from another outfit. E-2 and N-1 are completely different types of outfits.

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Careful there, Rebel, Scruffy isn't going to like you criticizing Ramirez and the handling of E-2.

Not worried about Scruffy. From what current E-2 guys told me, the junior class isn't the best but they felt like there were some good choices out of the group for CO. They also said Ramirez was pretty adamant about bringing in a CO from another outfit due to the trouble E-2 got into earlier in the year. Just glad it's not a wag and that the 1st SGT is a current member or E-2 so hopefully he will help turn things around and be CO next year.

In all honesty it all comes down to your sons personality. I like to think I had a pretty successful undergrad experience and I was in D-1.

Which in the eyes of the GM outfits was a total abomination, most of our outfit was in the cav and march-ins were a joke.

But we had a blast, and honestly if I'd been in one of the more anal outfits there is no way I would have enjoyed my time at A&M as much as I did. Plus most of us did just fine in life no need to nerd out in sq20 Togo to grad school or be successful.

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TexRex knows what I'm talking about

It appears to me that General Ramirez may be agreeing with me. Looks like he's trying to standardize unit sizes.

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Highly intelligent post...I am sure my wife would find it rather insightful as well...

There are a lot of great outfits to choose from though, IMHO...

When I joined N-1, it was by chance. We barely had 30 people total in the outfit. When I was a zip, we had 35 fish. The outfit has grown substantially over the last few years and it has been because of a combination of factors. Many of the previous classes put forth a lot of effort to build the outfit to what it is...many former members can hardly believe what it has grown into. We had a blast I would do it all over again, without hesitation. We took it seriously but we didn't take it seriously, if that makes sense...

That being said, there are a lot of other outfits that I wouldn't hesitate sending my kids too...C-2, H-1, E-2, K-2, P-2...all were well run outfits when I was on the quad. Lots of good people in all of those outfits. But it depends on what you are looking for...N-1 took things like drill very seriously and while I was there had a strong connection with FDT. P-2 was the same. H-1 was about PT...Bloody Cross, etc...C-2, well that was just a bunch of good guys who didn't know anything about halloween...E-2 and K-2, pretty much staples on the quad.

What you will find more often than not is that whatever outfit your kid joins, the personality will start to mirror that of the outfit. I think Q's are a great example of this! Gig 'Em!

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My story...the only reason I joined N-1 was because the cadet I was suppose to meet with didn't show up and the recruit that the N-1 Zip was suppose to meet with didn't show up...

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^ improper use of a blue star! Ban yourself!
Figured it out, damn rookies!

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Wouldn't be the first time. Probably won't be the last either. Sometimes it just happens that way. Back in my era, we did have outfits struggle to find a single member with a 2.3 Cumulative GPR.

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Great story yawny06. I didn't know anybody in the Corps and didn't know anything about any of the outfits. So I had no idea what it meant when MAJ Brewer put me in B-Company.
I didn't know enough to realize the quality of that "favor".