Charlie Woods to attempt to qualify for local PGA Tour event
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Last: 11 mo ago by Trinity Ag
Wonder where he sits in national ranking for 15 yo?
Hell as long he doesn't WD he's already better than his dad.
Yea I don't really agree. No one with a brain thinks he's going to be anything close to Tiger. Tiger was special since around age 3.
I think Charlie getting his tour card would be a huge accomplishment, and winning just once on tour would validate him (and Tiger)…anything more than that would be icing.
No one actually thinks Charlie Woods will or should win 15 Majors over the next 30 years.
I think Charlie getting his tour card would be a huge accomplishment, and winning just once on tour would validate him (and Tiger)…anything more than that would be icing.
No one actually thinks Charlie Woods will or should win 15 Majors over the next 30 years.
_lefraud_ said:
Yea I don't really agree. No one with a brain thinks he's going to be anything close to Tiger. Tiger was special since around age 3.
I think Charlie getting his tour card would be a huge accomplishment, and winning just once on tour would validate him (and Tiger)…anything more than that would be icing.
No one actually thinks Charlie Woods will or should win 15 Majors over the next 30 years.
This response is exactly the previous posters point. Given how Charlie is finishing against his age group in Florida, I bet there's less than a 1% chance he ever qualifies on his own for a PGA Tour event.
That was me. I was surprised as I didn't think I said anything controversial and especially not knocking the kid. Kinda like LeBron's kid who is a good college player and is a fish playing like a fish who one group think is a failure and another (ESPN) plays as "next". Both dumb.
Maybe he can have a better career than Gary Nicklaus?
In all seriousness I hope he plays as long as he wants and is able to and not because he feels pressure to do so because of who his dad is. He has a long ways to go to be the best in his age group still. Tiger had talent but also an incredible work ethic. Who knows if Charlie has that drive.
In all seriousness I hope he plays as long as he wants and is able to and not because he feels pressure to do so because of who his dad is. He has a long ways to go to be the best in his age group still. Tiger had talent but also an incredible work ethic. Who knows if Charlie has that drive.
Or the talent to even be a good college golfer.
Charlie Woods vs. Smylie Kaufman? I'd pay to see that.
oof. Thought he'd do a little better than that. Certainly wasn't expecting him to make the cut but thought it'd be closer to 78-79.
Would not mind if joined A&Ms golf team.
Clavell said:
Would not mind if joined A&Ms golf team.
Unless he gets a lot better, he would never be in the starting 5 based on his current scores. He is a really good golfer but he is still way behind high level D1 golf let alone PGA tour golf. He could get better over the next 3 years but it isn't like he hasn't had the best equipment, training and development already for a 15 year old.
Ag_07 said:
Hell as long he doesn't WD he's already better than his dad.
Type it out and re-read before you post next time
Other than a 12, not a awful card
Did he have a Tin Cup moment or what?
475 yard par 5, at Lost Lake Golf Club. I'm guessing Charlie found the Lost Lake!
+8 is awful
CapCity12thMan said:
+8 is awful
Not for a 15 year old playing a tour qualifying event.
if you're good enough to even think you have a chance... +8 is awful
Ag_07 said:CapCity12thMan said:
+8 is awful
Not for a 15 year old playing a tour qualifying event.
His dad played in a PGA event when he was 16 and shot +5 for two rounds. Charlie is a good high school golfer but no where near PGA tour material. I wish him well but I seriously doubt he will be the 11th son to win a PGA tour event like his dad (that starts with Young Tom Morris so the list is actually shorter than 11). This is a tough sport to have to be as good as dad especially when dad is one of the best players of all time.
I'm not going to bury the kid after a bad day. Take the 12 out and he's pretty much where I figured he play- high 70's. He has a long way to go at the moment but plenty of time to get better. Lets see how much of that work ethic from his dad he inherited.
Cam Kuchar (Matt Kuchar's son) is one who has a shot at a pro career.
Didn't he make it through a local US Open qualifier last year?
powerbelly said:
Didn't he make it through a local US Open qualifier last year?
Yes he did with a -3 score
https://golficity.com/cameron-kuchar-fires-3-69-in-u-s-open-local-qualifier/#:~:text=Cameron%20Kuchar%2C%20the%2015%2Dyear,National%20Golf%20Club%20in%20Florida.
I feel bad for him - apparently it was a straight circus out there today with all sorts of non golf fans walking right next to him on the fairway with only two deputy sheriffs to control the crowd.
I also didn't realize that he really has only been serious about golf since Covid - apparently he mainly played soccer growing up.
I also didn't realize that he really has only been serious about golf since Covid - apparently he mainly played soccer growing up.
No need to feel sorry for Charlie.
He's living and will live best life for the rest of his life doing things and experiencing life 99.99% of the people can only dream about.
He's living and will live best life for the rest of his life doing things and experiencing life 99.99% of the people can only dream about.
bowhuntr said:
I feel bad for him - apparently it was a straight circus out there today with all sorts of non golf fans walking right next to him on the fairway with only two deputy sheriffs to control the crowd.
I also didn't realize that he really has only been serious about golf since Covid - apparently he mainly played soccer growing up.
Read some of this earlier. People were wanting him to sign autographs mid round and being generally stupid.
I have listened to very little Texags radio over the years but happened to hear that segment. Gabe saying if he practiced for a while he wouldn't be surprised to see Johnny on the first page of the leader board at the US Open on sunday.jj9000 said:
Don't underestimate people who don't follow golf as closely as the folks on this board. Remember, JFF is only 3 or 4 strokes from getting his Tour card (so says Bock).
Yes he did. One of the most absurd statements made on that show. The subsequent thread on the topic became equally absurd.jja79 said:I have listened to very little Texags radio over the years but happened to hear that segment. Gabe saying if he practiced for a while he wouldn't be surprised to see Johnny on the first page of the leader board at the US Open on sunday.jj9000 said:
Don't underestimate people who don't follow golf as closely as the folks on this board. Remember, JFF is only 3 or 4 strokes from getting his Tour card (so says Bock).
I find Charlie's development interesting to watch play out in real time because it's a case study in the contrast of 1) the golf eras that Tiger/Charlie grew up and 2) their access to resources during their upbringings.
Off the top, I totally agree that comparing Charlie to Tiger isn't fair. Tiger was the best player among his peers basically starting at age 5. No one will ever win 3 Junior Ams, 3 Ams and each major 3+ times again.
That doesn't mean Charlie can't develop into a very good player. That remains to be seen.
Charlie's game right now, to me, is reflective the current era of the game. His swing is very refined for his age. It's been tailored by JT's dad (among others) and optimized for Trackman. He hits it a long way. He also has very impressive versatility in his short game (from what I've seen anyway). Having a world class short game facility in the backyard and the ability to pick the brain of the man with the greatest short game of all time contributes to that. Long story short, he has the tools.
The bad news is so do 1000s of other kids around his age. My instinct is that Charlie is more honed in on mastering golf shot skills than the other skills needed to contend/win golf tournaments. Mental toughness. Risk management. Routine. How do you turn 76 into 72. How do you hit the uncomfortable fairway or make the critical 5 foot bogey putt to keep your round going.
Those are the skills that Tiger seemed to master at an early age. If there was a course in front of him and a field of players around him, he knew what he needed to do to get the ball in the hole in the fewest amount of strokes. Rain. Shine. Cold. Hot. Bermuda. Bent. Windy. Calm. Pristine course conditions. Hard pan army courses. Didn't matter.
That's not to say Tiger didn't have swing coaches growing up. But swing instruction was different back then. It would be interesting to see a parallel universe where Tiger was raised in the current era with unlimited access to all the best resources to improve his game. My hunch is he wouldn't have turned out as good. Could be wrong though.
The odds are against him, but I still think Charlie could put it all together and become a formidable college player. Wouldn't totally rule out seeing him on tour one day either. I started playing competitively a little later than many of my peers (around age 14) and my game didn't start to come together and mature until I was around 17. Hormones start to subside a little and the brain becomes more of an asset than a liability. I guess we'll see.
Off the top, I totally agree that comparing Charlie to Tiger isn't fair. Tiger was the best player among his peers basically starting at age 5. No one will ever win 3 Junior Ams, 3 Ams and each major 3+ times again.
That doesn't mean Charlie can't develop into a very good player. That remains to be seen.
Charlie's game right now, to me, is reflective the current era of the game. His swing is very refined for his age. It's been tailored by JT's dad (among others) and optimized for Trackman. He hits it a long way. He also has very impressive versatility in his short game (from what I've seen anyway). Having a world class short game facility in the backyard and the ability to pick the brain of the man with the greatest short game of all time contributes to that. Long story short, he has the tools.
The bad news is so do 1000s of other kids around his age. My instinct is that Charlie is more honed in on mastering golf shot skills than the other skills needed to contend/win golf tournaments. Mental toughness. Risk management. Routine. How do you turn 76 into 72. How do you hit the uncomfortable fairway or make the critical 5 foot bogey putt to keep your round going.
Those are the skills that Tiger seemed to master at an early age. If there was a course in front of him and a field of players around him, he knew what he needed to do to get the ball in the hole in the fewest amount of strokes. Rain. Shine. Cold. Hot. Bermuda. Bent. Windy. Calm. Pristine course conditions. Hard pan army courses. Didn't matter.
That's not to say Tiger didn't have swing coaches growing up. But swing instruction was different back then. It would be interesting to see a parallel universe where Tiger was raised in the current era with unlimited access to all the best resources to improve his game. My hunch is he wouldn't have turned out as good. Could be wrong though.
The odds are against him, but I still think Charlie could put it all together and become a formidable college player. Wouldn't totally rule out seeing him on tour one day either. I started playing competitively a little later than many of my peers (around age 14) and my game didn't start to come together and mature until I was around 17. Hormones start to subside a little and the brain becomes more of an asset than a liability. I guess we'll see.
Well put, Deluxe.
After playing golf at a relatively high level as a junior, I can tell you that being the best at 14-15 guarantees you nothing. The example I go to all the time is Chris Stroud. He was a "good" player at 14-15, but he never won anything. Never even came close, actually.
BUT, he liked to practice more than anyone not named Vijay Singh. By the time he was a Senior, he was a recruitable college golfer (went to Lamar). He's ended up making a damn good career out of playing pro golf. There was absolutely NO indication that he had that sort of ability and/or future at Charlie Woods' age. Golf development isn't linear, by any means.
After playing golf at a relatively high level as a junior, I can tell you that being the best at 14-15 guarantees you nothing. The example I go to all the time is Chris Stroud. He was a "good" player at 14-15, but he never won anything. Never even came close, actually.
BUT, he liked to practice more than anyone not named Vijay Singh. By the time he was a Senior, he was a recruitable college golfer (went to Lamar). He's ended up making a damn good career out of playing pro golf. There was absolutely NO indication that he had that sort of ability and/or future at Charlie Woods' age. Golf development isn't linear, by any means.
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