What's really funny about it, is up here in okie-land, sips call in to the radio show around the time of the OU/tu game just to let the okies know that the OU game is not as big a deal to them. They say that A&M is their big rivalry and the OU/tu game isn't as big a deal as that one. tsips are just trashy people who think it makes them special that they "don't care" about winning certain games. Pathetic really.

A&M/tu is like a sibling rivalry, with tu being the older, gay "brother"

OU/tu flat out hate each other

A&M/tu is more about state bragging rights, whereas OU/tu is just about beating the other guy senseless

DANGIT!!

thanks for the heads up Toy

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No, I said that last quote.

Midnight Bevo - Great post, well said.

Toy - "I've never attended a Hex Rally, nor a Torchlight parade - they're glorified pep rallies, just like the yell practices."

No disrespect but we treat yell practices as more than a glorified pep rally. I would bet most ags only missed a few yell practices during college.

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Texas Fight was an improvement in Farmers Fight, and has outlasted it.

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I'll agree that Texas Fight is more well known than Farmer's Fight but it wasn't created b/c of Farmer's Fight only. The article doesn't mention the War Hymn but it hinted at with this comment...

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I wrote 'Texas Fight' ... in an attempt to counteract the songs and yells of the Texas Aggies, which were not too complimentary to our Student Body

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that bolded part is obviously the war hymn, not Farmer's Fight.

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First those links are more than 10 years old and just never got scrubbed during site updates

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the one from utexas.edu says 25 June 2003

I went to the yell practice prior to T+1 in CS and they had some speakers to pump up the team/crowd, then Fran spoke some, the little dog barked a little etc....Everything you do at a pep rally.

Dont forget...lights go off and we make out. No pep rally I ever went to in high school. Heck, if the lights went out in my high school someone would have started a fight and a few wallets would have went missing. Maybe a shanking too.

in the movie 'Varsity Blues' the Aggie Wary Hymn is played in the pep rally scene.

Aggie War Hymn 1
Texas Fight 0

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So are you gonna provide proof that both 'Texas Fight' and 'The eyes of Texas' are both more well known than the stadium swaying 'Aggie War Hymn'?

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Obviously it would be impossible to 'prove' it, but I did find some evidence to support it:

http://forums.sportingnews.com/viewtopic.php?p=64747

http://www.centralohio.com/ohiostate/stories/20030917/football/276670.html (see the caption on the right side of page)

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For the most part you are our neighbors, co-workers, friends. We go to the same church, drink together and are proud to be from Texas. There is a huge difference.

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Don't try and turn this into a lovefest midnightbevo.

classic case of penile envy by tu

tu dominates in a sport with guys wearing speedos!
6:48 and a Benjamin

a central ohio link patch?

see my post above yours and tell me if Texas Fight was ever used in a movie.

NorthshoreAg, hence the glorified part.

GQ, the list has nothing to do with central ohio

GQ, dont forget this usage of the Aggie song.

Just a wild guess, but I think Texas fight might've been used in this movie.

but you don't know for sure do you?

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Obviously it would be impossible to 'prove' it, but I did find some evidence to support it:

http://forums.sportingnews.com/viewtopic.php?p=64747

http://www.centralohio.com/ohiostate/stories/20030917/football/276670.html (see the caption on the right side of page)

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Wow. You're right, Cornell and the USCGA fight songs are definately in the top 25 of well known songs. Northern Illinois? "The Clemson Fight Song"? Do they mean Tiger Rag, because that I can go along with.

What a bogus source.

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GQ, the list has nothing to do with central ohio

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I'm well aware but my point is it is not a very significant link like ESPN, FoxSports, CSNews and such. you gave me centralohio.com

A&M is mentioned in the 2nd or 3rd paragraph

I wonder why they didnt film Man of the House at A&M....


..oh wait!

there are so many MEN at A&M

at tu there is the 1 straight man

So this is how it looks so far.

Midnightbevo has made a valiant effort at saving face for tu but nothing I posted can really be discounted since I provided links afterall, all of which were FROM the utexas.edu website.

tu's tower lighting preferences - not discounted
tu's creation of Hook'em b/c of Gig'em - not discounted (just an 'ours is better' cry)
tu's creation of Texas Fight song b/c of A&M's - not discounted (just another 'ours is better' cry)
tu's creation of Hex Rally to counter Bonfire - some disagreement here, but you have to consider it WAS created FOR the A&M game and was a pre A&M/tu game activity like Bonfire, and was created after Bonfire, timeline wise, so it's not hard to speculate the original statement.
tu's anti-A&M t-shirts - not discounted (honestly no way to argue this one when those shirts were seen at the 06 game, and don't worry sips I won't say they were created BECAUSE OF the sawem off shirts )

tu's naming of Bevo b/c of branding - well, there's articles that say different stories but who honestly gives a sh*t at this point, the fact we stole the thing and branded it is the best part anyway

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What's really funny about it, is up here in okie-land, sips call in to the radio show around the time of the OU/tu game just to let the okies know that the OU game is not as big a deal to them.

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We like to poke both nests. Gets you all stirred up. One of the benefits of having 2 rivals

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A&M/tu is like a sibling rivalry,

OU/tu flat out hate each other

A&M/tu is more about state bragging rights, whereas OU/tu is just about beating the other guy senseless

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Yes.

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All that said I have never said A&M isn’t a rival. I don’t even say OU is bigger. They are just different



I then go on to say that OU/tu is just about the game then.......

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I agree, but since football is king in Texas, the rivalry is bigger



You always contradict yourself?

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Wasn’t me.

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Midnight Bevo - Great post, well said.

Toy - "I've never attended a Hex Rally, nor a Torchlight parade - they're glorified pep rallies, just like the yell practices."

No disrespect but we treat yell practices as more than a glorified pep rally. I would bet most ags only missed a few yell practices during college.

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Thanks. And while you might see them as more than a glorified pep rally(I would say pep rally on steroids for yell practice), the outside world doesn’t. No shame in that. Most schools(obviously including us) have some form of glorified pep rally.

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Texas Fight was an improvement in Farmers Fight, and has outlasted it.



I'll agree that Texas Fight is more well known than Farmer's Fight but it wasn't created b/c of Farmer's Fight only. The article doesn't mention the War Hymn but it hinted at with this comment...
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I wrote 'Texas Fight' ... in an attempt to counteract the songs and yells of the Texas Aggies, which were not too complimentary to our Student Body



that bolded part is obviously the war hymn, not Farmer's Fight.

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Try your own link again:

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"Long before I entered The University of Texas in 1909 and until about the year 1928 the Aggies had one of the most effective and awe inspiring songs used by any student body any where any time. 'Farmers Fight' at that time was their sacred College song. ... It was to them what 'The Eyes of Texas' had always been to us. The song was a repetition of the words 'Farmers Fight' sung to the well known bugle call 'Taps' in the same slow tempo as the bugle call is used by the army for lights out at night.
"Returning to Marlin, TX after World War One I resumed my practice of attending most of the Texas foot-ball games, especially those with A. & M. It occurred to me that an effective way to strike back at the Aggies was to write a 'Texas Fight' song in answer to their 'Farmers Fight' using the same bugle call 'Taps' changed to lively march time and having 'Texas' throughout the song instead of 'Farmers'. 'Texas Fight' (Texas Taps) is the result."

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First those links are more than 10 years old and just never got scrubbed during site updates



the one from utexas.edu says 25 June 2003

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Well the exact same picture and caption were on the site when I started school(well before 2003). At any rate this one is more recent
http://www.utexas.edu/friends/fun.php

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Wow. You're right, Cornell and the USCGA fight songs are definately in the top 25 of well known songs. Northern Illinois? "The Clemson Fight Song"? Do they mean Tiger Rag, because that I can go along with.

What a bogus source.

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Yeah the guy who researched it for 10 years is a bogus source…However not all of those are actually fight songs. The Eyes is a school song. Some places don’t make the distinction, some do.


http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0040333/
Roy Rogers over Dawson’s Creek.

Midnightbevo,

I know MY article mentions Farmer's Fight, but like I said that same article mentions 'songs' not song and how they don't speak highly of the UT student body. Well that can't be Farmer's Fight b/c it makes no mention of tu. Only the Aggie War Hymn, that I know of, has a negative remark of tu so that also played a part even if not mentioned.

Hopefully that makes sense. And it doesn't change the fact it was created b/c of an A&M song.

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tu is a younger brother who is just different in a funny sort of queer way. Not that there is anything wrong with that.

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Yeah the guy who researched it for 10 years is a bogus source…However not all of those are actually fight songs. The Eyes is a school song. Some places don’t make the distinction, some do.

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So, you discredit your source right there, he calls all school songs "fight songs." What a genius.

To say that this guy's results are valid is like saying the guy researched pop singers for the last 10 years and found out the top 25 included sanjaya and milli vanilli. Sure some people like them but they are no where near the top 25. Take Northern Illinois. Why are they even considered? I'll bet few people outside of the MAC or Big 10 area have even heard their fight song.

The US Coast Guard? What division of football do they play? Do they play against the US Nat'l guard?

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Roy Rogers starred in a 1948 film titled Eyes of Texas.[2]

The song is played repeatedly in the 1956 movie Giant.[3]

The song is on the soundtrack of Dimitri Tiomkin version of The Alamo, which was nominated for the Academy Awards of Best Music (Original Song) and for Best Music (Scoring of a Dramatic or Comedy Picture) in 1961.[4]

Elvis Presley sings it as part of a medley with "The Yellow Rose of Texas" in Viva Las Vegas from 1963.

In Steven Spielberg's 1974 movie The Sugarland Express, as the slow-speed police chase comes into a small town thronged with supporters of the fugitive couple, the marching band is playing "The Eyes of Texas." The score was conducted by John Williams.

As background to an inaugural ball for newly elected president Lyndon Johnson in the opening scene in the movie "Path to War."

Sung by Roy Orbison and Hank Williams Jr. to calm a rowdy group at a country-western bar in the film Roadie.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Eyes_of_Texas

Eyes: 7
War hymn: 2(one gay locker room scene, one Dawson's Creek)

GQ,

The guy saif that he created it as play off of Famers Fight. And gainno argument that you did some things first we jsut did them better.

And if you want to get technical The Eyes was around earliest, and there is no doubt The War Hymn was a respone(its right there in the lyrics) so at best you can say we did something in response to something you did in response to us!

Everything you listed is old as dirt, 1948, 1956, 1963?

What year did Varsity Blues come out? 1999 or 2000 right. And it was a pep rally scene.

As for the tower lighting you git us there. Of course we light the whole thing orange for Christmas too. Christmas and beating the Aggies, 2 things that are fun to celebrate but you pretty much expect them every year!

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Everything you listed is old as dirt, 1948, 1956, 1963?

What year did Varsity Blues come out? 1999 or 2000 right. And it was a pep rally scene.

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Right because all the new movies are better than the old ones.

The fact that you are putting a James Vanderbeek movie above Elvis, Giant, The Alamo etc tells me all I need to know...you are a 13 year old girl.

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And gainno argument that you did some things first we jsut did them better.

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of course a sip is gonna think sip stuff is better. too bad you guys arent' that original to come up with all that FIRST.

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And if you want to get technical The Eyes was around earliest, and there is no doubt The War Hymn was a respone(its right there in the lyrics) so at best you can say we did something in response to something you did in response to us!

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all this spinning is making me dizzy.

does that really help your argument? if that bold statement is true all it means is your original song wasn't good enough then right? you had to respond to an A&M song to find a better one.

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The fact that you are putting a James Vanderbeek movie above Elvis, Giant, The Alamo etc tells me all I need to know...you are a 13 year old girl.

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it's a football movie based in Texas and they chose the A&M War Hymn. THAT has a little more merit, in this particular discussion, than an Elvis medley, nothing against the king of rocknroll though.

and what's with the 13yr old girl smack? you are on the wrong site for that perv