Radio cannot pass to save his life.

Greg Davis knows this.

Mark knows this.

America knows this.


A&M and U.S.C. torched O.U. through the air when they played because they could burn the Okies over the top.

t.u. was blanked because Radio cannot pass and Benson was stopped by one of the top rushing 'D's in the land.



So do you think Davis will learn from the Ags and Trojans? Will he devise an offense centered around the deep ball since Radio is such a great passer and all?


Discuss.

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Radio cannot pass to save his life.

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There was one game in which we needed him to pass and he didn't come through. There were other games where we needed him to pass to win and he not only came through but did so exceedingly. It's amazing to me how aggies could watch the improvement of Reggie between his sophomore and junior seasons and act like it's impossible for Vince do so as well.

Not impossible, just improbable <wink wink>.

I'm going to get flamed for this, but I don't think texas develops their QB's very well. I never really felt like Simms had dramatic improvement in his 4 years at texas. He improved slightly from year-to-year, but I thought he still made a lot of the same mistakes his senior year that he made when he was a freshman.

Now, this could very well be that it was Simms and not the coaching staff. VY's passing did improve from '03 to '04, and probably will improve this year. But will it be by leaps and bounds, or just a little?

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Will the aggie football team improve by leaps and bounds this year or just a little?

I know its possible they improve alot, just improbable.

Nice one. How old are you, 8?

Is your next witty remark going to be something like, "I know you are but what am I?"

bishop could reportedly throw a football 78 yds or something like that.

You're only as good as your last game. VY's last game was a big win, on national TV, in which he played well, so he's getting hype.

Through the middle of last year, you'd see him, but he wasn't being hyped like that.

However, if we'd had a similar game against Tennessee, Reggie would probably getting similar pub.

As for his throwing, it's really strange. He clearly doesn't have the polished delivery of an NFL QB, but he has displayed excellent touch on passes. So, do I want him in the pocket attempting to throw through a small window in a zone? No. I don't want him to have to throw hard...ever. Do I want him rolling out against a man-to-man defense, throwing to guys in 1-on-1 situations? Yes.

The question will be the running game. You couldn't hardly play zone against tu last year because you needed lots of guys flying into the box to get CB before he really got rolling. Teams that tried to go man often got burned by a TE that got free or behind the safety that was hawking the run.

OU really seems to have this thing figured out. At times, other teams seemed to have it really cold (OSU, Kansas, ATM for a half) but you got the feeling for those teams that it was just a matter of time before CB broke loose or a TE got free and then...Boom...the route was on.

It'll be very different this year with a different kind of back (not the thumper that CB was). How different or what the impact will be? Who knows.

I'm not predicting a meltdown, but I think OU will still be a really, really, really tough game for tu to win. As always, you can throw the records out when they come to Kyle. Even though last year's loss was solid, we only lost by 13 on some really strange plays. Now you bring the same guys into Kyle, minus Benson and Johnson, and things are going to be tough for tu.

Of course, the OSU will also be a very difficult game because it's on the road and the OSU staff is excellent. You can bet they know the Michigan team that they played and beat and that tu beat like they know the back of their own hand, so they're going to have a very solid gameplan in place for tu.

I can see 3 losses. They'll probably only lose 2. Another Top 10 finish, but no BCS Bowl and no MNC.

That was a very well thought out, rational, relatively objective post. I may disagree with something here or there, but at least you took the time to list the reasons behind your opinions. That's a lot more than most on this board. Seriously, what's going on around here today?

cmack

I assumed your point was that things usually don't change that much in one offseason, and that we Texas fans who believe VY's passing was going to drastically improve were being naive. I was making the counterpoint that all you ags who believe that your team is going to be drastically improved this year, despite no evidence to the contrary are being equally naive. I guess my point went over your head.


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So I guess Greg Davis will be more than happy to have Radio's arm to fall back on now that C-Bong is gone?

Football is a game of adjustments.

You've had at least two years to see how to attack O.U.'s defense. Why doesn't Davis use this knowledge to devise an offensive scheme to occasionally let Radio burn the Sooners secondary?

Still waiting for an answer.

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VY did through a "would be TD" against OU, but unfortunately our WRs sucked (especially early in yr).

No confidence in your WRs will destroy a QB, as it did James Brown during his Sr year.

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I was making the counterpoint that all you ags who believe that your team is going to be drastically improved this year, despite no evidence to the contrary are being equally naive. I guess my point went over your head.

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Not at all. You just lumped me in with everybody else. I've linked below what I think of our team this season. Look about halfway down. I must have missed where that's going to be 'drastic' improvement.

http://www.texags.com/main/forum.reply.asp?topic_id=459153&forum_id=6&page=last#r5742755

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Thank you, SA.

We can disagree with civility and still compete with passion.

I don't see tu's success as a bad thing for Texas or A&M. I hope we'll get to the day that T+1 is the MNC and everyone in the country knows it. A&M is farther away than tu, but I believe we are trending upward.

Please don't try and blame your receivers for the lack of Radio's passing abilities.


With Benson in the backfield, your offense was designed to be ball controlled. Hence the majority of his passes were to tight ends and backs.

When it was clearly obvious the best way to attack O.U. was to go up top on their secondary, Davis still didn't want to do it. He was going to play 'smashmouth' football because it is really all he had.

This year was closer only because Johnson and your 'D' played lights out.

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When it was clearly obvious the best way to attack O.U. was to go up top on their secondary, Davis still didn't want to do it. He was going to play 'smashmouth' football because it is really all he had

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Actually, Davis still tried to play 'smashmouth' football because he is a moron who couldn't make an adjustment even if the other team started playing with 7 guys on defense instead of 11. Plus, 'smashmouth' football is good at minimizing mistakes on his part, because no chances have to be taken. This is davis' forte... minimizing risks, playing not to lose, and then losing anyway.

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This is davis' forte... minimizing risks, playing not to lose, and then losing anyway.

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Nails.

Also, if 'smashmouth' football was all we had, we wouldn't have beaten Okie St last year. Smashmouth football found us down 35-7.

I think that had more to do with Robinson's adjustments than Davis' adjustments.

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Scoring 49 point in a half is a pretty good offensive performance.

Wood

42 in a half.

In addition, the Pokes defense sucked. I watched the game and said as y'all scored the TD at halftime that t.u. could easily come back and win that game.


t.u. got on a roll, Okie Lite folded, and played not to lose after halftime.

Early in the game when Radio tried to pass he was picked twice which led to two TD's and a 28-7 defecit.

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Actually it had something to do with "radio," the guy who "can't pass to save his life" completing 18 out of his last 19 pass attempts... something reggie has never even come close to doing, regardless of the defense.

Like I said before, and I'll say it again, it is considerably eaiser to have a higher completion percentage when you dump passes to your backs and tight ends.

The six scores you had in the second half were RUSHING TD's.

The short passes are nothing more than to keep the 'D' line and backers honest to set up the run.

http://www.mackbrown-texasfootball.com/pages/stats/2004/GAME09.HTM

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Fran, who are you trying to convince? Us or yourself...

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Wood

Yes Wood.

That was the ONLY pass of any length to a WR in the game that wasn't picked. It also came in the midst of Okie Lite selling out to stop the run that t.u. was starting to enforce.

Seriously, look at all of the plays in your scoring drives in the second half. Please tell me that your idea wasn't to run the football almost exclusively. Almost all of the passes were of a short, ball control style.

Honestly, I don't have a problem with that. The simple fact of the matter is that VY put the team in a position to score and score often. Benson could not have done nearly as much without the real threat of Young taking off or a play action throw to *gasp* one of our TEs or WRs.

I find it humorous that when proclaiming RM's success OSU was a "contender" ranked #15 in the country. It was supposedly a "statement" game for a&m. However, when UT played #19 OSU they had suddenly become a bunch of scrubs.

Wood

Let us review:

WR's - (5 catches for 79 yards)
TE's, RB's, & FB's - (13 catches for 199 yards)

If you take out the ONE catch Sweed had, the WR's really had 4 catches for 32 yards.


Yeah, looks like Radio was really 'airing it out'.

DUH!

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Wood, welcome to Texags...

401 yds of offense.

Duh.

Wood

Fran, if I remember correctly, Young hit Scaife and Thomas for a few 20+ yard receptions.


I guess if you don't go deep often enough, you can't pass.

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Possibly the most backwards analysis of the texas offense in history. Benson was the key...

Who said Okie Lite was a 'bunch of scrubs'?


They were a good team that was a little overrated.


We were happy to beat tham because we were their 'homecoming' game after losing to them at Kyle the year before.


Y'all made the adjustment to do what you do best and eventually righted the ship to blast them.

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Fran, if I remember correctly, Young hit Scaife and Thomas for a few 20+ yard receptions.

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In the Okie Lite game or overall?

*hint* - I'm giving you a chance for an out on this one.



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Like I said before, and I'll say it again, it is considerably eaiser to have a higher completion percentage when you dump passes to your backs and tight ends.

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And I've said it several times before... You might have a point, except that only 5 out of the 18 passes were "dump off" completions. I know you aggies don't know how to use a tight end effectively, but a crossing pattern 8-10 yards down the field is not a "dump off" pass. 13 of Vince's 18 completions that night traveled more than 12 yards in the air, which would quallify them as "mid range" passes. Again, Reggie will very likely never have as good a game throwing the ball as Vince did in that one.

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The six scores you had in the second half were RUSHING TD's.

The short passes are nothing more than to keep the 'D' line and backers honest to set up the run.

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If you don't think the gameplan changed when we came out in the second half, I would say there is no way you were watching the game. We came out throwing first and running second. Our usual offense was to run, run, and run some more, then throw only when we had to. It was only Vince throwing the ball well that brought us back in that game, since the threat made OSU defense adjust and not stop the run as effectively as they had before Vince started throwing.

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Possibly the most backwards analysis of the texas offense in history. Benson was the key...

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You have no idea what you are talking about. Benson was struggling until Vince joined him in the backfield.