Another VY/RM Thread

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LonghornDub
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Patch - Don't confuse hostile ag with facts.

West Horn - Way to go. You're trying to get a bet like mine with ce1994. UT/A&M straight up with no points. It's kind of like stealin', only better.

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footballfan
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I acknowledged that both are good college QB's. But using "winning" as the stat to define how good they are, is wrong and anyone with an IQ over 100 should know that. By that logic Tee Martin is better than Peyton Manning and there is a loooooong list of examples just like that one. You just make yourself look stupid bringing up the "winning" stat. Winning is determined by a large number of players on the team, not just the QB.

Again, they are both good college QB's, but imho only Reggie has a shot at being a NFL QB.
LonghornDub
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football fan - You were doing pretty good until that last line.

Your football IQ just dropped into the single digits.

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Hostile_Aggie
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No Patch, Dilfer won a championship....
Hostile_Aggie
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Longhorn Dub, you have to acknowledge one of two things:

1: Your team sucks and VY is responsible for them being good, which is the only way he would be better than Reggie

2: You have a first class team with tons of talent that wins games with a great defense and All-American RB.

Which will be?
INIGO MONTOYA
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VY just "happened to be there" in the Rose Bowl....and what was RM doing on T+1?
Guy on a Buffalo
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Hostile, get an Ag Tag and stop stealing my material.
highwayman
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INUGO, haven't you heard? VY did have a great game in the Rose alright, but it was against a slow, POS michigan defense.
highwayman
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Hostile, Marino is better because of his overall superior W-L record.
Hostile_Aggie
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Apparently, winning big games only matters when it applies to VY winning the Rose Bowl. Typical...
Hostile_Aggie
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Hostile, get an Ag Tag and stop stealing my material.


Huh
Hostile_Aggie
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Longhorn Dub, you have to acknowledge one of two things:

1: Your team sucks and VY is responsible for them being good, which is the only way he would be better than Reggie

2: You have a first class team with tons of talent that wins games with a great defense and All-American RB.

Which will be?


Well Longhorndumbass?
MacD
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The Reggie vs. Vince phenomenon on Texags is increasingly bizarre. Get over it. You can post all the stats in the world about Reggie, but it doesn't change the fact that they each have different styles of play in which stats don't always reflect their true impact.
Hostile_Aggie
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Interesting, as at one time last week there were 12 topics on page 1 about Texas A&M and either Fran or Reggie. You guys obsess over us just as much, difference is there are almost no Aggies on Hornfans.
Guy on a Buffalo
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Huh


I'm saying that you should get and Ag Tag...


























































...and some original material.

The Trent Dilfer/Dan Marino comparison was mine from another thread (although I think I might have said Brad Johnson at the time), and if you post one more pic from aggies9496.com I think I'm gonna puke (not that you have this thread, but it seems to be your main source of material besides me).
Hostile_Aggie
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My bad then, but that was simply the first comparison that popped into my head. wasnt trying to steal material from you.
footballfan
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Dub - my last line (re their NFL QB prospects) is just fine. That doesn't detract from VY as a college QB. It just means that imo, he doesn't have the skills to be a NFL QB. For now you can disagree, in a few years you'll know that I'm right.

There is a long lists of great college QB's who couldn't make it in the NFL. See most recently Jason White. VY is still a damn good college QB; as is Reggie.

If you could switch them, it would be interesting to see how well the horns and Ags would do.....
West Horn
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Hostile Aggie,

Your question is a false dichotomy.

Obviously, how good a team is depends on the entire team. HOWEVER, the QB position has a FAR greater impact on the W/L record than any other position on the field; this is why wins and losses are valid (not perfect) QB statistics. Look at baseball: wins are used to evaluate pitchers, despite the fact that pitchers depend on their teammates to produce runs.
LonghornDub
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Hostile Ag, you ignorant ****. We had both a great QB AND a great team last year. Did we go about 11-1 and win the Rose Bowl or am I missing something?

It takes both to do that good. I know it's been a long time for you Ags to remember what a good season is like, but go back and read your history. You'll discover that's what it takes at A&M too.

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highwayman
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...and some original material.

The Trent Dilfer/Dan Marino comparison was mine from another thread (although I think I might have said Brad Johnson at the time), and if you post one more pic from aggies9496.com I think I'm gonna puke (not that you have this thread, but it seems to be your main source of material besides me).



Ass!

Guy on a Buffalo
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Patch, go eat some cock and get over it.
flnk06
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If W/L's are all that matter for a QB, does that mean Matt Mauck was the bets QB in 2003? Was Craig Krenzel the best QB in 2002? Was Ben Roethlisberger the best NFL QB last year?
Hostile_Aggie
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We had both a great QB AND a great team last year


Thanks, that's all I needed to know. I give you props for proving every Aggie's point.
highwayman
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Patch, go eat some cock and get over it.


Hole!
West Horn
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Oh, and on a serious note, I'm not sure why the NFL prospects of VY and RM keep popping up as if they prove something. Whatever your prognostications, who cares? What possible relevance does it have when evaluating college performance?

While I wish all Texas players the best of luck in the NFL, the only thing that matters to me is what they do in the orange and white.
LonghornDub
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Hostile Ag - First, go try to find where the last time A&M had that good a record, and second, go look up dichotomy and get back to West Horn.

If you get your program up to where ours is in the next six years, you should thank your lucky stars. You've got a long way to go.



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Hostile_Aggie
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Longhorns need to stop, as Dub just stuck Austin's collective foot in his mouth.
footballfan
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Aggie QB Corey Pullig had a great W/L record, but I never saw him playing QB in the NFL. Drop the W/L stuff; it makes you guys look stupider than you already are!

I'm outta here.
LonghornDub
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West Horn - Barring injury, Vince will go pro after this year and be taken considerably higher in the draft than Reggie. The Vince-bashing on this board is part of its appeal. It adds comic effect.

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Hostile_Aggie
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Dub, you said "We had both a great QB AND a great team last year."

Therefore, you CANNOT say that VY's record proves he is the better QB, as you acknowledge that you had a great TEAM as well. Therefore, because we know you agree that McNeal's team is inferior, saying that his W/L record makes him better is irrelavant and contradicts this statement. The only way that arguement is valid is if Texas sucked and VY was carrying them all year by himself. However, that is not the case.

But go ahead, try and pry your foot from your mouth. Spin away....
Hostile_Aggie
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Dub, if you really think VY will play a down of Pro Ball as a QB, you are more delusional that I thought.
LonghornDub
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Hostile Ag - Do you ever feel like you're alone? That nobody knows what you're talking about? Including you?

Call suicide hotline and on the menu, punch the number 3 for methods.

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Hostile_Aggie
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"Hey everyone!!! Look at me as I try to divert attention from my dumbass contradcitory remarks!!!!"
W.E. Henley
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The Trent Dilfer/Dan Marino comparison was mine from another thread


I've seen that comparison in this circumstance at least 100 times. I doubt it was you who posted it originally. And if you didn't post it more than two years ago, I KNOW it wasn't you who posted it originally.

Maybe you've used it so often you've started to believe it was your original thought.
Hostile_Aggie
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It doesnt make it any less true
 
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