Uh oh TBAT

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MelvinUdall
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Raiderjay said:

TXAGBQ76 said:

No hate, but it is a horrible look for college football- and college sports in general. Betting on the sport you play in and on the team you play on where you can impact the game is not good. He knew the rules and made a conscious decision to violate them- hundreds of times,

But then tt knew this and signed him anyway.



Tech did not know about this when they signed him. NCAA ruled, tech would have abided by that. A judge ruled an injunction that he can now play is Tech supposed to not let him play?


Tech didn't do anything wrong here. He did do something wrong and honestly if the ruling would have been no injunction and he can't play I would be fine with that.

But the judge did rule the injunction, he has gone to rehab and is getting help, and now he can play. Tech should support the kid but also have a "no tolerance" policy that if he places even 1 bet at Tech he is out


Yes, Tech shouldn't let him play…if I am the CFP, I would let Tech know that if he played a down of football for Tech this season, then Tech won't be considered for the playoff.
Texas velvet maestro
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Best possible situation for Tech is that Hammond lights it up the first two games, keeps playing and winning and Sorsby sits on the bench deep into the season.
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TXAGBQ76 said:

Doesn't matter when, they did make it public. So to say tt didn't know and did nothing wrong is pretty disingenuous.


What did Tech do that was wrong? Seriously
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Raiderjay said:

TXAGBQ76 said:

Doesn't matter when, they did make it public. So to say tt didn't know and did nothing wrong is pretty disingenuous.


What did Tech do that was wrong? Seriously

MelvinUdall
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Raiderjay said:

TXAGBQ76 said:

Doesn't matter when, they did make it public. So to say tt didn't know and did nothing wrong is pretty disingenuous.


What did Tech do that was wrong? Seriously



Keeping him on the football team.
Texas velvet maestro
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nothing illegal, if that's what you mean by "wrong."
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Signed a player who had a history of betting on college sports, in the sport he played and on his team.
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Raiderjay said:

TXAGBQ76 said:

Doesn't matter when, they did make it public. So to say tt didn't know and did nothing wrong is pretty disingenuous.


What did Tech do that was wrong? Seriously



That box of 64 crayons has a sharpener, use it.
Texas velvet maestro
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one way an athlete can make money is relay inside dope on their team to oddsmakers. I wonder if Sorsby ever did that? And if it isn't gambling, is it wrong?
Raiderjay
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So you don't have an answer…..
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Raiderjay said:

So you don't have an answer…..

your question was a reply to
TXAGBQ76

he answered you
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Raiderjay said:

So you don't have an answer…..


I do, but you're not smart enough to comprehend. Go along now….
Raiderjay
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So lots of bloviating, "tech sucks" but no real factual points.. understood this is the rivalries board

Facts are Tech was not aware of this issue when they signed him and ncaa has not disputed this
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Raiderjay said:

So lots of bloviating, "tech sucks" but no real factual points.. understood this is the rivalries board

Facts are Tech was not aware of this issue when they signed him and ncaa has not disputed this
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Tceh was not aware of this? Are you serious? You don't get out much do you?

So now the NCAA matters? Good grief…
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I find that very hard to believe. If so, when you found out, you kept him anyway.
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Why didn't Tech walk away from Sorsby once he admitted to gambling? The back up QB (Hammond) Tech had last year was good enough for
tech to finish 2nd in conference this year.

This is a massive headache for Tech
MelvinUdall
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Raiderjay, do you believe that Sorsby should play a down of football for Tech this year?
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MelvinUdall said:

Raiderjay, do you believe that Sorsby should play a down of football for Tech this year?

Not RaiderJay, but Tech grad.

A few things:

I don't think Tech has done anything wrong - yet. I don't think Tech had any idea that this was going on with Sorsby or they would have chased a different target. This is bad for Tech and whether you like them or not, the people that have been running the show lately for Tech are smart people. They wouldn't take this on knowing about all the hair on Sorsby.

I think the NCAA should be actively investigating Cincinnati, because it is clear that they knew.

I think it is obvious that Sorsby knew what he was doing was wrong, because he clearly tried to hide it. I also think he had help hiding it from someone not at Tech. Say what you will but Tech has been forthcoming on this.

And finally:

I think Sorsby shouldn't take another snap for any college team, period.

We are in unclear legal fog right now, IMHO. Sorsby brought the suit against the NCAA, and the temporary injunction was granted to Sorsby, not to Tech. Tech is a member institution of the NCAA. So far, I have no reason to believe that Tech has violated any NCAA rules. But if Tech suits up Sorsby and plays him, I think the NCAA could come after Tech, and the injunction doesn't seem to grant Tech any relief from that.

And all that horse crap aside, Tech students have to agree to a code of conduct as terms of enrollment. Sorsby has violated that code of conduct, and as a proud Tech alum, I find that unacceptable. I applaud Tech for supporting Sorsby's recovery, but it would be a very bad look for Tech to allow him to play a single down.

Tech has been the point of the spear in helping level the playing field that the SEC and B1G have tried so hard to tilt in their favor, and I'm here for it. But if Sorsby plays at all for Tech, Tech will have crossed a line that I won't be able to stomach.
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I agree with most of your comments.
- I find it hard to believe tt knew nothing about, had not heard rumors, etc.- but then I haven't talked with any administrators at the school.
- The president of tt had an opportunity to do the right thing but didn't.
- The AD had an opportunity to do the right thing, but has chosen not to

I 100% agree he should play football again at any level.
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Skubalon said:

Tech has been the point of the spear in helping level the playing field that the SEC and B1G have tried so hard to tilt in their favor, and I'm here for it. But if Sorsby plays at all for Tech, Tech will have crossed a line that I won't be able to stomach.

Look, I've made it clear my hatred of Tech over the years...most of it schtick, some of it not. But I think this is where Campbell has gotten himself in a pickle here. He's set himself up to look like the savior of college athletics, and to some degree I see what he's been fighting for. But in this case, he is giving everyone else both inside and outside the college football world to paint him (and Texas Tech) as a disingenuous fraud.

I don't know how I'd react had this been A&M, no. And to me it doesn't matter when they found out a guy gambled on games involving his own team. I don't want a guy like that on my team. Who the hell knows where that leads?
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BohunkAg said:

... it doesn't matter when they found out a guy gambled on games involving his own team. I don't want a guy like that on my team. Who the hell knows where that leads?

Agreed 100%.

MelvinUdall
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I don't blame Tech for throwing money at him and getting him on Tech, but if Tech decides to play him, that is not a good look for them, period. He does not deserve to play another game of college football….Tech needs to get rid of him.
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BohunkAg said:

Skubalon said:

Tech has been the point of the spear in helping level the playing field that the SEC and B1G have tried so hard to tilt in their favor, and I'm here for it. But if Sorsby plays at all for Tech, Tech will have crossed a line that I won't be able to stomach.

Look, I've made it clear my hatred of Tech over the years...most of it schtick, some of it not. But I think this is where Campbell has gotten himself in a pickle here. He's set himself up to look like the savior of college athletics, and to some degree I see what he's been fighting for. But in this case, he is giving everyone else both inside and outside the college football world to paint him (and Texas Tech) as a disingenuous fraud.

I don't know how I'd react had this been A&M, no. And to me it doesn't matter when they found out a guy gambled on games involving his own team. I don't want a guy like that on my team. Who the hell knows where that leads?


Cody has always spoke out of both sides of his mouth. He doesn't care about college athletics, he only cares about tceh. This is a scam so people don't do a deep dive into who he really is. He's trying to gain sympathy, that's it.
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TXAGBQ76 said:

I agree with most of your comments.
- I find it hard to believe tt knew nothing about, had not heard rumors, etc.- but then I haven't talked with any administrators at the school.
- The president of tt had an opportunity to do the right thing but didn't.
- The AD had an opportunity to do the right thing, but has chosen not to


Sorsby was chased after by a bunch of big name blue bloods, and was considered the #1 player in the portal by most sources. Not sure why you would think that Tech would have known but none of those other schools or news outlets knew. But that's on you. I've stated my opinion and it's not likely to change.

It would be ignorant of Campbell and crew to chase after a guy that they knew had an issue that they would have to immediately report to the NCAA and declare ineligible per NCAA rules, which is EXACTLY what they did. That's not even ignorant. It's willfully stupid.

No, I am certain in my opinion that Tech didn't know. It puts their entire season at risk.

As for doing the right thing:

You and I agree, I think, on what the right thing is. So far, Tech hasn't done the right thing (which is to kick him off the team, or at least state unequivocally that he won't play at all). I hope Tech will do the right thing. It is, after all only a day after the injunction came down, and there is still time.

But I am not at all optimistic that Tech will do the right thing, and that makes me very, very sad.


Sorsby violated Tech's code of conduct. He should fall under school discipline or be dismissed. But instead he will probably be handed the keys to a new Lamborghini.
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MelvinUdall said:

I don't blame Tech for throwing money at him and getting him on Tech, but if Tech decides to play him, that is not a good look for them, period. He does not deserve to play another game of college football….Tech needs to get rid of him.

Agreed 100%.
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Tech never caught hell on this board, that much, for their sports teams. It was always about them lagging behind academically. I don't know if Campbell is spending on the university, but if he was, nobody would notice due to this sort of high profile cluster****.

Personally I hate it that they're being referred to as a national shame. We've had rapists sheltered at baylor. Athletic dorms as crack houses in Norman. and 50 other worse issues in our vicinity than this.
A lot of this is due to the cumulative effect of their spending and self promotion in the process. CC has been too much of a showboat, so he's not gonna get grace.
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I hear you and basically agree. Indiana should be held accountable if they knew and ignored it, as well as Cincinnati, as they obviously knew and looked the other way until he left and signed with tt. If any of the other so called blue bloods knew and signed him, should be under the same scrutiny and held equally accountable as tt should be.

I think you and I are basically in violent agreement here.
Raiderjay
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I don't think he should play and was very surprised by the judges decision.

I also don't believe all the holier than though statements from P4 teams, and believe that they would do the exact thing Tech has done in the same situation
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Sure they would- but that still doesn't make it right. I'm thinking some of the louder ones probably made offers also.
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Raiderjay said:

I don't think he should play and was very surprised by the judges decision.

I also don't believe all the holier than though statements from P4 teams, and believe that they would do the exact thing Tech has done in the same situation


Everyday that goes by and he is on the team, it makes Tech look worse…
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Raiderjay said:

I don't think he should play and was very surprised by the judges decision.

I also don't believe all the holier than though statements from P4 teams, and believe that they would do the exact thing Tech has done in the same situation
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Well, today WE are holier thou, or tceh.
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Texas velvet maestro said:

Tech never caught hell on this board, that much, for their sports teams. It was always about them lagging behind academically. I don't know if Campbell is spending on the university, but if he was, nobody would notice due to this sort of high profile cluster****.

I agree with your post but to comment on this part specifically:

Tech is a public school owned by the people of the state of Texas, and its funding and academic priorities are established through the state. Texas is a big enough and rich enough state to have many top-tier academic universities. But powerful and well placed UT and A&M alums have blocked Tech's access to PUF funding, even though the majority of mineral rights that fund the PUF come from parts of the state that sit closer to Tech than to Austin or College Station. It's interesting to me that UT continues to get a bigger portion of the PUF than A&M gets, but that's a different subject. Tech gets none of it.

The state of Texas could fund making Tech a top tier research university. Politicians just haven't wanted it to be so. So yes, Tech, including Cody Campbell's money, are pressing for AAU membership and improving academic standing. See the links below.

https://www.ttu.edu/president/communications/2025/2025-11-03-introducing-texas-techs-strategic-plan-2025-2030.php

https://www.ttu.edu/strategic-plan/

https://www.lubbockonline.com/story/news/local/2025/08/25/regents-chairman-cody-campbell-talks-about-goals-future-growth-of-texas-tech-system-univerisites/85819374007/
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Skubalon said:

Texas velvet maestro said:

Tech never caught hell on this board, that much, for their sports teams. It was always about them lagging behind academically. I don't know if Campbell is spending on the university, but if he was, nobody would notice due to this sort of high profile cluster****.

I agree with your post but to comment on this part specifically:

Tech is a public school owned by the people of the state of Texas, and its funding and academic priorities are established through the state. Texas is a big enough and rich enough state to have many top-tier academic universities. But powerful and well placed UT and A&M alums have blocked Tech's access to PUF funding, even though the majority of mineral rights that fund the PUF come from parts of the state that sit closer to Tech than to Austin or College Station. It's interesting to me that UT continues to get a bigger portion of the PUF than A&M gets, but that's a different subject. Tech gets none of it.

The state of Texas could fund making Tech a top tier research university. Politicians just haven't wanted it to be so. So yes, Tech, including Cody Campbell's money, are pressing for AAU membership and improving academic standing. See the links below.

https://www.ttu.edu/president/communications/2025/2025-11-03-introducing-texas-techs-strategic-plan-2025-2030.php

https://www.ttu.edu/strategic-plan/

https://www.lubbockonline.com/story/news/local/2025/08/25/regents-chairman-cody-campbell-talks-about-goals-future-growth-of-texas-tech-system-univerisites/85819374007/


The PUF fund was established well before tceh was even thought of. Try doing some research first.

Hell oil wasn't even discovered when the fund was set up.
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nu awlins ag said:


The PUF fund was established well before tceh was even thought of. Try doing some research first.



I know quite a lot about the PUF, thank you very much. And so should you. And none of that changes anything I posted.
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Skubalon said:

nu awlins ag said:


The PUF fund was established well before tceh was even thought of. Try doing some research first.



I know quite a lot about the PUF, thank you very much. And so should you. And none of that changes anything I posted.


It should or you wouldn't be crying all over this thread. I see you needed time to fact check me.

Sorry. Let me remind you that you brought up the PUF fund. No one else did. So what does it have to do with gambling? Surely you in all your infinite wisdom you can answer this.
 
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