Damn, one single post about the recruiting national championship and it brought several sip lurkers out of the shadows, only to get their heads caved in.

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And your delusional view of the situation is so cute, Dixiechick! I thought 247 was the default "only" recruiting ranking that matters? You almost beat Texas in recruiting 'lil bro. It was a valiant effort on Jimbo's part, and who knows? Maybe next year Jimbo will pull out a recruiting win, but here's a little advice.....wait until it's over before you declare to the world that the Texas fighting aggies will embarrass Texas in recruiting.......for once.

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Two of the players from this class Herman was counting on to contribute this year likely won't be playing this year.

Congrats.

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And your delusional view of the situation is so cute, Dixiechick! I thought 247 was the default "only" recruiting ranking that matters? You almost beat Texas in recruiting 'lil bro. It was a valiant effort on Jimbo's part, and who knows? Maybe next year Jimbo will pull out a recruiting win, but here's a little advice.....wait until it's over before you declare to the world that the Texas fighting aggies will embarrass Texas in recruiting.......for once.

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Interesting that the sports channel that funds the awesome LHN for "Your School" has A&M No.3 in the nation... but at least you got an inflated 5th.

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And your delusional view of the situation is so cute, Dixiechick! I thought 247 was the default "only" recruiting ranking that matters? You almost beat Texas in recruiting 'lil bro. It was a valiant effort on Jimbo's part, and who knows? Maybe next year Jimbo will pull out a recruiting win, but here's a little advice.....wait until it's over before you declare to the world that the Texas fighting aggies will embarrass Texas in recruiting.......for once.

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If by a recruiting win, you mean Inflating players to satisfying the ego of T-shirt sip nation and the coach who kisses dudes, that's a hard pass lol.

Also how well is talking **** about Jimbo going over on 40? Sounds like it's a real solid plan that worked really with Leal and the same pitch went over even better Demas. Should get even better so keep it up

What was the head to head between Jimbo and Herman. I'm pretty sure Jimbo won more. Can't find sources.

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What was the head to head between Jimbo and Herman. I'm pretty sure Jimbo won more. Can't find sources.

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Head to head on the field Herman whipped him with far less talent.

Fields from UGA granted immediate eligibility. I bet Bru McCoy will too. NCAA is toothless if you lawyer up and fight them. Bo Darville will disagree with this prediction.

NCAA granted 79 percent of waiver requests last year. This year will be higher.

Texas has a great class by BDF standards even without the unwarranted last minute adjustments. If they count that transfer from USC they should be 8-10.

Good enough for 2nd in the dumpster fire or 6th in the SEC.

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Fields from UGA granted immediate eligibility. I bet Bru McCoy will too. NCAA is toothless if you lawyer up and fight them. Bo Darville will disagree with this prediction.

NCAA granted 79 percent of waiver requests last year. This year will be higher.

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Fields claimed a legitimate hardship. What is McCoys?

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Dark_Knight said:

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What was the head to head between Jimbo and Herman. I'm pretty sure Jimbo won more. Can't find sources.

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Head to head on the field Herman whipped him with far less talent.

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What was Maryland's talent level? Who was their coach this year?

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Texan1976 said:

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Dark_Knight said:

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What was the head to head between Jimbo and Herman. I'm pretty sure Jimbo won more. Can't find sources.

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Head to head on the field Herman whipped him with far less talent.

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Every time this ridiculous logic is used, it demonstrates what a dumbass the user is.

UConn
SMU
Navy
San Diego State
Tech
OSU (twice)
Maryland (twice)
TCU
Memphis


That's 11 losses to teams with less talent than his in 4 seasons.

Kind of offsets those "big wins."

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It's like a movie that is played on loop where Flexbone breaks down the door of these t-shirt idiots apartments, choke slams them, pulls down his britches, and takes a poop on their bird chests that's dispensed similar to the ice cream machine at a Jason's Deli.

We bodied him earlier in the thread

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We bodied him earlier in the thread

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you never replied, how old are you ?

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We bodied him earlier in the thread

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Wtf are you talking about?

Congratulations on your #2 (in Texas) class Jimbo promised.

That is possibly the worst graph I've ever seen. No title, no axis labels, etc. I'm sure the objective was to show how the sip loyalist mouthpieces who work for recruiting services inflate their recruits' rankings, but I'm not sure it was effectively executed.

These ranking shenanigans have been going on since early in Mack's tenure. I don't think Aggies should worry too much about it. It has hurt them much more than it has helped in the past decade, and likely cost Mack his job by perceived underachievement. It is an example of "Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake".

The goal of the rank inflation is to get the attention of other ranked recruits. I think the good players know each other from camps and know who is really good. I believe the perceptive ones who want to win, probably don't worry too much about class rankings.

However, this crap is one of many reasons we shouldn't consider playing the sips again for another 10 years at least, if ever.

You have to click on it, dude

When the link opens in twitter, click on the image. All will be clear then.

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That is possibly the worst graph I've ever seen. No title, no axis labels, etc. I'm sure the objective was to show how the sip loyalist mouthpieces who work for recruiting services inflate their recruits' rankings, but I'm not sure it was effectively executed.

These ranking shenanigans have been going on since early in Mack's tenure. I don't think Aggies should worry too much about it. It has hurt them much more than it has helped in the past decade, and likely cost Mack his job by perceived underachievement. It is an example of "Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake".

The goal of the rank inflation is to get the attention of other ranked recruits. I think the good players know each other from camps and know who is really good. I believe the perceptive ones who want to win, probably don't worry too much about class rankings.

However, this crap is one of many reasons we shouldn't consider playing the sips again for another 10 years at least, if ever.

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for the tw*tter impaired

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Hang yourself

https://www.sbnation.com/platform/amp/college-football/2019/2/12/18220507/texas-am-recruiting-rankings-2019

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https://www.sbnation.com/platform/amp/college-football/2019/2/12/18220507/texas-am-recruiting-rankings-2019

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what's that, girl? there's a dumbass writing articles citing comments from a free message board?

congrats on your t-shirt school's class, it is approximately .5% "better" than ours with a couple of players that likely can't play this year.

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Dewd. Lame troll. That's a horn fan blog post. You could do better.

Authored by someone named "Richard Johnson". Has to be a horn

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If you choose to completely ignore the blatantly obvious fudging of paper rankings that took a team from 9 to 5 without adding a single player due to "revaluations" that occurred in mid January and were SEVERAL MULTIPLES HIGHER THAN ANY OTHER PROGRAM IN AMERICA (not even mentioning adding a transfer to the rankings when that's never been done before), that's your call, champ. But here's how you know it's bull**** No Texas fan was claiming they "beat us" until what I just said happened (AGAIN, not even counting the addition of the transfer). In other words, they had EXACTLY THE SAME PLAYERS...and weren't claiming that...until all the sudden some paper rankings of the exact same kids were "adjusted" despite zero games being played or camps being held.

But either way, the proof will be on the field. When you can't sign elite lines, you have zero chance of ever winning a title. Not to mention you have a coach with a resume of WTF losses and sloppy wins against mediocre to bad teams that FAR exceed his good wins.

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Has anyone told tu fans that there is no such thing as a "recruiting championship"?

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Oh we know, we're just content to see a g g y get bent out of shape over their prized 2019 recruiting class getting beat by the good guys yet again. This thread wouldn't exist if Bru's flip didn't lead to Texas leapfrogging TAMU.

Y'all have been beating your chests over this class for a year and now that the dust is settled you're beside yourselves about inflated rankings and broken transfer rules and it's hysterical.

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It's hysterical alright. You had to inflate rankings for spares like Hookfin just to beat us.

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Texas has the higher ranked class even if Hookfin is removed altogether. Not sure what your particular obsession with him is.

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Please, keep being purposefully obtuse and convincing yourself that A&M didn't sign a better class. A&M stomped Texas head to head, and A&M got high-end talent across the board. Magical "rerankings" despite no games or camps on a site owned by Texas alum, and not adding anyone..yeah...ok.

Reminds me of Texas fans convincing themselves their team was really good despite the fact that they couldn't produce a Top 50 unit on either side of the ball.

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In the 2019 classes there are 11 players on the Texas side with offers from Jimbo and 11 on the A&M side with offers from Herman, don't know why you're pretending it was a lopsided thumping head-to-head. Y'all cleaned up in state, sure, but on the whole it was a pretty even recruiting battle this year.

That "not top 50" team won 10 games and a NY6 bowl friend. That's what matters at the end of the day, no matter how many asterisks you try to put on it.

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Actually, the reason it matters is because it's not sustainable. Herman hasn't produced a Top 50 offense yet. The defense was awful and is probably not going to improve much next year. The close games Texas won that got them to "10 wins" (in 14 games) aren't likely to continue going their way. You should be very concerned - if you were honest with yourself - about Texas' inability to field a quality offense OR defense considering the level of talent they play against, which is the worst in the Power 5.

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Lol.

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This is the response of someone who isn't intelligent enough to debate the points offered, but feels compelled to respond so he can "get" those mean old Aggies. Sorry you weren't smart enough to get in here, pal.

But the point remains. Anyone who's not concerned about those offensive and defensive units, especially in that league, is fooling themselves. That's a big reason why Vegas rates Texas so much lower than sportswriters, and much lower than us. We had a Top 15 offense (against the best defensive talent in America by far) and a defense ranked #32 (including one of the top run D's in the country). That's in Year 1.

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You are an idiot. The Texas offense made astronomical gains over previous years and were ranked in the 20's in both FEI anf S&P on offense. They were in the 80-100's for multiple years prior. Nice try. Only a moron would bring up the offense as a reason to project negatively for the future. Sam is now only a Junior and the OL and WR is the best and most deep its been in years. The DL (best depth in a while) youngsters looking to step up were a big reason for smacking Georgia in the mouth.

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FEI and S&P? Nice try? Texas' offense sucked. It's not good. Ours is much better. That's very evident. Smacking Georgia in the mouth happened because Georgia, like almost every single CFP#5 before them, didn't want to be there. I realize you don't WANT this to be true because it discounts the biggest win in a decade, but it is. Speaking of single games, what were the reasons for losing to bad teams and barely beating bad teams?

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Speaking of S&P....

https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2019/2/11/18219163/2019-college-football-rankings-projections

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Texas is 35th???

In 2015, Tom Herman's Houston Cougars enjoyed a magical run. They went 13-1, rolled to the AAC title, and beat Florida State in the Peach Bowl. The numbers were unimpressed. UH ranked just 53rd in (the updated version of) S&P+, looking more like a 10-4 team on paper and propped up by five points per game of good turnovers luck.

In Houston's 2016 preview, I wrote this:

Houston is going to be good. In 2016, something like a 9-3 record would be considered disappointing. This scenario plays out a lot in this sport, and it shouldn't a surprise that it's what the skeptical S&P+ ratings are projecting.
Houston improved to 39th in S&P+ ... and went 9-3. You can defy the numbers once, but it's really hard to do it twice in a row.

Herman's team might have something familiar going on heading into 2019.
In 2018, another Herman team defied both expectation and statistics. In his second year at Texas, his Longhorns ranked 32nd in S&P+ and, per second-order wins, had the look of an eight-win team. For every strong performance (namely, wins over Oklahoma and Georgia), there was a dud or near-disaster a loss to Maryland, near-losses to Tulsa, Baylor, Texas Tech, Kansas, etc. Against anyone but the top teams, they did the bare minimum; it bit them once and nearly did so many other times.

Still, they won 10 games, finishing with a win over a depleted but talented UGA in the Sugar Bowl. From that point forward, they were all but guaranteed to find a spot in everyone's preseason top 10.

The final piece of the puzzle for Herman in Austin might not be filling in holes on the two-deep. It will be figuring out how to field a team that plays every game like the Sugar Bowl.
S&P+ doesn't tend to trust teams that perform so inconsistently. Plus, Texas must replace a higher percentage of last year's production than any other power conference team.

The Horns bring back quarterback Sam Ehlinger and receiver Collin Johnson as headliners, plus the fruits of successful recruiting.

They do not, however, return their leading rusher (Tre Watson), leading receiver (Lil'Jordan Humphrey), three honorable mention all-conference offensive linemen, their top three tacklers on the defensive line, their top two linebackers, and three of their top five defensive backs, including corner Kris Boyd, who led the team in havoc plays (tackles for loss, forced fumbles, and passes defensed).
Herman has signed two straight dynamite classes, and his Horns have what appears to be a manageable schedule for a top-10 team, if they can get by LSU at home. But they've got a lot of churn to overcome, and they used a lot of good fortune last year.

S&P+ is going to project them to win about seven games. A Herman team has defied stats a couple of times now, but they haven't yet done it back-to-back.

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Still standing by those, little buddy?

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OMG. Y'all really oughta start charging us rent for all the space we take up in your heads. Look, let's try this again.......your little ranking "victory" is about as artificial as Pamela Anderson's most famous assets, and everyone that's paying attention knows it. EVERYONE. Having Burton pump the ever loving hell out of your rankings two weeks before NSD fools no one. Jimbo wiped his ass with the titty twister in state.....with the exception of Javonne, Whittington and maybe Tyler Johnson he got everybody he went hard after. Even your little lap dogs in Bristol have y'all 2 spots behind us........if it makes you feel better, keep congratulating yourselves about the generous bump from one of your alums. We're losing zero sleep.

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Dewd. Lame troll. That's a horn fan blog post. You could do better.

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No he can't....he's a noodle armed pile of dung

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OMG. Y'all really oughta start charging us rent for all the space we take up in your heads. Look, let's try this again.......your little ranking "victory" is about as artificial as Pamela Anderson's most famous assets, and everyone that's paying attention knows it. EVERYONE. Having Burton pump the ever loving hell out of your rankings two weeks before NSD fools no one. Jimbo wiped his ass with the titty twister in state.....with the exception of Javonne, Whittington and maybe Tyler Johnson he got everybody he went hard after. Even your little lap dogs in Bristol have y'all 2 spots behind us........if it makes you feel better, keep congratulating yourselves about the generous bump from one of your alums. We're losing zero sleep.

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imagine being this mad on the internet over college football recruiting rankings lmao, even the aggie commenters on that post think y'all are whack over here

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OMG. Y'all really oughta start charging us rent for all the space we take up in your heads. Look, let's try this again.......your little ranking "victory" is about as artificial as Pamela Anderson's most famous assets, and everyone that's paying attention knows it. EVERYONE. Having Burton pump the ever loving hell out of your rankings two weeks before NSD fools no one. Jimbo wiped his ass with the titty twister in state.....with the exception of Javonne, Whittington and maybe Tyler Johnson he got everybody he went hard after. Even your little lap dogs in Bristol have y'all 2 spots behind us........if it makes you feel better, keep congratulating yourselves about the generous bump from one of your alums. We're losing zero sleep.

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imagine being this mad on the internet over college football recruiting rankings lmao, even the aggie commenters on that post think y'all are whack over here

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