He definitely wasn't an ass-kisser or any kind of alumni schmoozer at all.
aggiehawg said:LOL! The fact that they were able to keep Leach there for so long is the amazing part. Leach is like a sloth. Slow-moving, likes his surroundings and stays there until forced to move.MooreTrucker said:They didn't fire Leach thinking they could do better, they fired Leach for being a jackass. The fact that he actively interviewed for other jobs while employed at Tech didn't help.Ed Torian said:
TBAT fires Leach and Kingsbury, thinking they can do better. Lol.
But he inadvertently got involved in a d*** measuring contest with a d***less Kent Hance. Everything that happened after that was just a monetary move to avoid paying Leach his money according to his contract. Leach doesn't suffer fools gladly and Hance was/is a blowhard fool.
I met Hance a few times when I was in law school. Guy is a supreme a-hole who is quite full of himself, not a drop of even fake humility. Disliked Bill Powers when he was at tu but at least he was diplomatic when screwing people over. He was a kissy guy but Hance was a he-who-must-be-obeyed type.
Seriously?Redstone said:
Don't know why Kliff is considered a QB-whisperer but can't wait for this to blow up in AZs face
MooreTrucker said:Even fewer NFL fans even know who Johnny is, Heisman or not, except a screw up at Cleveland that is no longer in the NFL. And that Heisman was 6 years ago, and has been overshadowed by Mayfield and Lamar Jackson.David_Puddy said:ttu_85 said:To the NFL no less go figure. First Mahomes doing what johnny FF could not and now KK to the NFL despite a losing record at Tech. Pretty crazy stuff. I wish the man success he will have to earn it.David_Puddy said:
Texas stepping stone Tech
Heisman trophy winner Johnny meant a lot more to Texas A&M than Mahomes ever did to Tech. I bet 99% of NFL fans have no idea he even went to TBAT. I'm sure you're f'ing jacked though as a HUGE lifelong Kansas City fan.
And I'll never argue that point. Johnny made himself, Kliff, and Sumlin a lot of money.David_Puddy said:MooreTrucker said:Even fewer NFL fans even know who Johnny is, Heisman or not, except a screw up at Cleveland that is no longer in the NFL. And that Heisman was 6 years ago, and has been overshadowed by Mayfield and Lamar Jackson.David_Puddy said:
Heisman trophy winner Johnny meant a lot more to Texas A&M than Mahomes ever did to Tech. I bet 99% of NFL fans have no idea he even went to TBAT. I'm sure you're f'ing jacked though as a HUGE lifelong Kansas City fan.
Exactly my point which you're failing to grasp. Mahomes is a great NFL QB. He was solid in college but in all honesty should've & could've been a Hesiman winner. I care a lot more about what these guys do in college than the NFL. Either way if it wasn't for Johnny, KK doesn't get a head coaching job to begin with which lead to an NFL job, for God knows what reason.
MooreTrucker said:And I'll never argue that point. Johnny made himself, Kliff, and Sumlin a lot of money.David_Puddy said:MooreTrucker said:Even fewer NFL fans even know who Johnny is, Heisman or not, except a screw up at Cleveland that is no longer in the NFL. And that Heisman was 6 years ago, and has been overshadowed by Mayfield and Lamar Jackson.David_Puddy said:
Heisman trophy winner Johnny meant a lot more to Texas A&M than Mahomes ever did to Tech. I bet 99% of NFL fans have no idea he even went to TBAT. I'm sure you're f'ing jacked though as a HUGE lifelong Kansas City fan.
Exactly my point which you're failing to grasp. Mahomes is a great NFL QB. He was solid in college but in all honesty should've & could've been a Hesiman winner. I care a lot more about what these guys do in college than the NFL. Either way if it wasn't for Johnny, KK doesn't get a head coaching job to begin with which lead to an NFL job, for God knows what reason.
Beard.Sid said:
https://www.barstoolsports.com/iowa/kliff-kingsbury-and-holly-sonders-are-confirmed-dating
And he's dating Holly Sonders. Strong week.
That's a hell of a beard (if true).Wildmen03 said:Beard.Sid said:
https://www.barstoolsports.com/iowa/kliff-kingsbury-and-holly-sonders-are-confirmed-dating
And he's dating Holly Sonders. Strong week.
aggiehawg said:Hance and AD Myers seized on that fake Adam James story. They also refused to meet with Leach if he brought his lawyer, denying him advice of counsel during a contract issue. When you are denied a meeting over a contract issue because you want to have your counsel present for the negotiations, GFY is justified, IMO.Quote:
I won't disagree with any of that about Hance, except that he's anything BUT d***less in the regard that he held the purse strings for Leach's job. And you don't tell your boss to GFY and stay employed long.
They wanted to screw Leach over, used Craig James and his snot-nosed kid to start it and then ramrodded Leach out of his job because they didn't like him. He wasn't the appropriate level of ass-kisser they demanded.
Tech was suffered and will continue to suffer as a result, as they should.
Have you, by chance, met John Sharp?Quote:
I met Hance a few times when I was in law school. Guy is a supreme a-hole who is quite full of himself, not a drop of even fake humility. Disliked Bill Powers when he was at tu but at least he was diplomatic when screwing people over. He was a kissy guy but Hance was a he-who-must-be-obeyed type.
Sid said:
https://www.barstoolsports.com/iowa/kliff-kingsbury-and-holly-sonders-are-confirmed-dating
And he's dating Holly Sonders. Strong week.
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Did people know this was a thing? I didn't know it was and a quick Google search of their names would lead me to believe that nobody else new either. I didn't even know this was potentially a thing. The only people who seemed to know they might be dating were a couple dudes on an Aggies message board which isn't all that surprising. Those guys know everything. Well it's official now. Holly was all over social media yesterday talking about how hot Kliff is and how proud of him she is after he took the Arizona Cardinals HC job.
Ed Torian said:
Are there motion pictures on the World Wide Web where Miss Sonders's most intimate of crevices is revealed for one's viewing pleasure?
Maybe they are tired of recycling all of the same ****ty NFL coaches that fail at each stop but keep getting HC jobs over and over again.YellowPot_97 said:
Why would a Pro team hire someone who has only been a college HC once? And at a shtty school like tceh? And failed there?
Ed Torian said:
Are there motion pictures on the World Wide Web where Miss Sonders's most intimate of crevices is revealed for one's viewing pleasure?
Grand Ol' Dame,aggiehawg said:Hance and AD Myers seized on that fake Adam James story. They also refused to meet with Leach if he brought his lawyer, denying him advice of counsel during a contract issue. When you are denied a meeting over a contract issue because you want to have your counsel present for the negotiations, GFY is justified, IMO.Quote:
I won't disagree with any of that about Hance, except that he's anything BUT d***less in the regard that he held the purse strings for Leach's job. And you don't tell your boss to GFY and stay employed long.
They wanted to screw Leach over, used Craig James and his snot-nosed kid to start it and then ramrodded Leach out of his job because they didn't like him. He wasn't the appropriate level of ass-kisser they demanded.
Tech was suffered and will continue to suffer as a result, as they should.
aggiehawg said:Hance and AD Myers seized on that fake Adam James story. They also refused to meet with Leach if he brought his lawyer, denying him advice of counsel during a contract issue. When you are denied a meeting over a contract issue because you want to have your counsel present for the negotiations, GFY is justified, IMO.Quote:
I won't disagree with any of that about Hance, except that he's anything BUT d***less in the regard that he held the purse strings for Leach's job. And you don't tell your boss to GFY and stay employed long.
They wanted to screw Leach over, used Craig James and his snot-nosed kid to start it and then ramrodded Leach out of his job because they didn't like him. He wasn't the appropriate level of ass-kisser they demanded.
Tech was suffered and will continue to suffer as a result, as they should.
Rightly or wrongly, this is true.GSPag` said:
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10 years later, all my tech friends (I grew up 15 miles from Hance's hometown) all detest Hance and love Leach. Kent Hance had quite a career. But he will always be known as the guy who destroyed tech football.
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Not ALL of them, to be damn sure......Quote:
Although I hated them growing up and the times I went to Aggie games there, they wished us luck in the SEC and said it was a great move for us. So I have forgiven their game day behavior and now hate LSU more.