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Why is it so hard to schedule 14 teams?

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We are rednecks. About as hard as avoiding marrying a relative.

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I can always count on a quality answer from goodAg80. Brilliant.

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Oh great. This discussion again.

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Why is it hard to schedule 14 teams? For baseball, SEC schools play all of the schools in their own division and 4 of the schools in the other division, giving you 10 series, which is the same as the ACC. Big 12 teams only play 8 series, and Big 10 teams only play 6 series. Basketball is also somewhat similar. You don't know really who is the best team in the conference. In the Big 12, there is no dispute about which basketball team is best. It's always Kansas, but it's because of their dominance on court, not because they did not have big road games with some of the schools in the conference.

In the SEC, we only have two football games with East Division schools. The Aggies will be beginning season 6 in SEC and still have not played Georgia. Maybe the SEC could add another game, but currently there is no big push for it.

The two SEC expansions were game changers. The first game gave the conference the SEC Championship game, the only conference championship that sells out. The second expansion laid the groundwork for the SEC Network. I don't see any needle moving expansion scenarios out there.

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Oh great. This discussion again.

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33 at his best! Too stupid to realize they started the "Joneses" smack but hate it when their dick gets knocked in the dirt.

RGLAG85 said:

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33 at his best! Too stupid to realize they started the "Joneses" smack but hate it when their dick gets knocked in the dirt.

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When did the stereotype flip? I thought the Horns were arrogant. Now, it's the Aggies and I suppose arrogance is ok.

Do you really equate message board dick swinging to the arrogance of Delost? You aren't keeping it real, you're keeping it disingenuous.

McInnis80 said:

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I wonder why the Big 10 Network is worth so much less than the SEC Network? Could it be that they could not charge the full in state rate to New Jersey or New York, especially since people in New York could care less about college sports, and care even less about Rutgers?

Or is it people moving from traditional Big 10 country to SEC Nation?

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In state population and higher subscription fees pure and simple:

SEC in-market states:

Texas 27,862,596
Florida 20,612,439
Georgia 10,310,371
Tennessee 6,651,194
Missouri 6,093,000
South Carolina 4,961,119
Alabama 4,863,300
Louisiana 4,681,666
Kentucky 4,436,974
Mississippi 2,988,726
Arkansas 2,988,248
Total 96,449,633 X $1.30 = $125,384,522.90


B1G in-market states:

New York 19,745,289
Pennsylvania 12,802,503
Illinois 12,801,539
Ohio 11,614,373
Michigan 9,928,301
New Jersey 8,944,469
Indiana 6,633,053
Maryland 6,016,447
Wisconsin 5,778,708
Minnesota 5,519,952
Iowa 3,134,693
Nebraska 1,907,116
Total: 104,826,443 X $1.00 = $104,826,443

$125,384,522.90 - $104,826,443 = $20,558,079.90

Keep in mind I included New York as they are included as in-market for the B1G despite the fact that Rutgers is in New Jersey. I also used the in-market fees for both networks and not the US average shown in the article above and both of those factors work to the advantage of the B1G. It should also be remembered that in states like Alabama and Louisiana most people that can get SECN probably have SECN, but the same is not true for B1GN in New York and Illinois.

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Do you really equate message board dick swinging to the arrogance of Delost? You aren't keeping it real, you're keeping it disingenuous.

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Actually, I am keeping it real. I don't have a message board dick swinging personality. My behavior and ideas on this board and in real life are the same.

I think you just outed yourself as a sock. Nobody can be that full of s***.

Potcake said:

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I think you just outed yourself as a sock. Nobody can be that full of s***.

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Yes, that's it. You're so clever... [face-palm]

And I thought we were kindred spirits because I own a potcake. I rescued him from T&C back in 2014.

Was there no valuation of the longhorn Network?
IIR it had lost -50mil after 2 years of operation. That's been quite awhile back. Has there been any recent updates?

are they still broadcasting student fashion shows ?

33 said:

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33 at his best! Too stupid to realize they started the "Joneses" smack but hate it when their dick gets knocked in the dirt.

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When did the stereotype flip? I thought the Horns were arrogant. Now, it's the Aggies and I suppose arrogance is ok.

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It hasn't flipped, that's why you, your brother Randolph and the sip ilk can't stand big brother possibly having more success in any form from you. It shakes your very core.

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Hey inbred, keep up, It is new data.

Curious to see what the LHN will be worth if Texas starts to win again? Probably more than the Pac 10 network.

Wonder what Notre Dame's contract with NBC is worth?

I'm looking forward to 2025 when Texas will be out of the big 12 and hopefully in the B1G with Oklahoma where they belong.

are you serious ?

I know you are a rookie and all, but this is just about too much, even for a sip

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Curious to see what the LHN will be worth if Texas starts to win again? Probably more than the Pac 10 network.

Wonder what Notre Dame's contract with NBC is worth?

I'm looking forward to 2025 when Texas will be out of the big 12 and hopefully in the B1G with Oklahoma where they belong.

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So you are giving up the LHN? Where we people go to watch fashion shows, cooking shows, student debates, and a rerun of the National Championship game from 20 years ago?

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Chosen One said:

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Curious to see what the LHN will be worth if Texas starts to win again? Probably more than the Pac 10 network.

Wonder what Notre Dame's contract with NBC is worth?

I'm looking forward to 2025 when Texas will be out of the big 12 and hopefully in the B1G with Oklahoma where they belong.

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So you are giving up the LHN? Where we people go to watch fashion shows, cooking shows, student debates, and a rerun of the National Championship game from 20 years ago?

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Don't forget the yoga, safari education and bevo eating grass.

Fozzy's Safari Spectacular was quite the ratings driver for the sip channel. It was just ahead to The Drunk Augie Garrido Cooking Show

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They've moved on to "C o c ki s Not Glocks" rallies.

The network fees are based on subscribers, not population. The loss of subscribers is what is causing the heartburn in Bristol.

The subscriber fees are the largest source of revenue for the SEC Network, but I am seeing more real ads for mainstream products and less infomercial type ads which pay the network a percentage of sales.

I think ESPN has a veto over any conference move by the Longhorns. There would have a be some major checks cut to the Mouse if UT moves to the B1G, which has lots of ties to FOX.

Let's just blow it all up and build new conferences.

We can put Michigan and Alabama in the same conference to create a great game dominated by coaching personalities.

The SEC and the Big Ten are doing just fine, it's the BDF that will end up out of business, and you sips won't have to worry about Kansas or Iowa State anymore.

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Let's just blow it all up and build new conferences.

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That is an appropriate position for someone who is in an intractable situation in the current environment. That's why I predicted years ago that t.u. would be a major advocate of that. I don't know whether they're doing it behind the scenes, or their weak leadership has simply dropped the ball.

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I'm not in an intractable position. I don't really care what conference Texas plays in. They can stay in the B12 or it can blow up. That would have no impact whatsoever on me.

petey88 said:

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keep telling yourself that and perhaps in 20-30 years you might believe it

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I believe it today. I don't care what conference Texas plays in. I'll still go to as many games as I can. I don't watch TV so that doesn't matter to me at all.

Last football season, I went to the ND, OU and Baylor games. And for what it's worth, I went to the UCLA and Tennessee games for the Aggies.

This year, I'm going to USC, Maryland, OU and Tech games. I'll see what Aggie games my neighbor wants to drag me to.

good for you, have a cookie

I've always thought the best landing place for them would be the B1G but I am guessing they end up in the Pac 16 with OU TT and OSU. That would be very meh but better than the current dumpster fire.

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The SEC and the Big Ten are doing just fine, it's the BDF that will end up out of business, and you sips won't have to worry about Kansas or Iowa State anymore.

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At what point has Texas worried about anyone but themselves.

And yes, the LHN is a disaster for both Texas and the conference. But there is hope. The leadership of Texas has changed and the powers that pushed for the LHN are no longer there.

If Texas wants to keep the LHN they need to go independent, but if they are serious about making some money, they should join the B1G and get rid of the LHN. There will be no loss to Texas as the addition of the Texas markets will bump up the B1G's market share well over the SEC.

The real windfall would be if Texas and Norte Dame both joined. But I'd prefer to keep Oklahoma as they have been loyal to both Texas and the big 12.

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The SEC and the Big Ten are doing just fine, it's the BDF that will end up out of business, and you sips won't have to worry about Kansas or Iowa State anymore.

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At what point has Texas worried about anyone but themselves.

And yes, the LHN is a disaster for both Texas and the conference. But there is hope. The leadership of Texas has changed and the powers that pushed for the LHN are no longer there.

If Texas wants to keep the LHN they need to go independent, but if they are serious about making some money, they should join the B1G and get rid of the LHN. There will be no loss to Texas as the addition of the Texas markets will bump up the B1G's market share well over the SEC.

The real windfall would be if Texas and Norte Dame both joined. But I'd prefer to keep Oklahoma as they have been loyal to both Texas and the big 12.

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baylro are the only one who want to be in a conference with the sips

redd38 said:

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What's the value of the Big 12 Network?

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-$300 million.

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The real windfall would be if Texas and Norte Dame both joined. But I'd prefer to keep Oklahoma as they have been loyal to both Texas and the big 12.

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LOLOLOLOLOLOLO!!!

Notre Dame told DeLoss Dodds to 'F*** Off!" several years back. The Fightin' Irish are ACC bound both contractually and in intent.