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And you don't think players are hungry and ready to play for other coaches?
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So you measure your tshirt school's success in recruiting vs A&M, in which Chuck has a sizable losing record?
That's basically exactly what you just said
Not Lately.
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So where was Ketch during the Old Freak Nasty scandal?
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So you measure your tshirt school's success in recruiting vs A&M, in which Chuck has a sizable losing record?
That's basically exactly what you just said
Not Lately.
Wasnt 2016 pretty close to even? I know we kicked your tshirt schools head in sideways in 14 and 15 in head to heads and 17 looks like we'll have the advantage again.
So you don't deny your being happy with Chuck is simply based on head to head recruiting with A&M in the 2016 class?
quote:So Aggies recruited better than Texas head-to-head in 14 and 15, even in 16 ... and you call that having recruiting success vs. Aggies? Based on what may or may not happen in 17? And you're certain that all 17 commits will sign?quote:quote:quote:
So you measure your tshirt school's success in recruiting vs A&M, in which Chuck has a sizable losing record?
That's basically exactly what you just said
Not Lately.
Wasnt 2016 pretty close to even? I know we kicked your tshirt schools head in sideways in 14 and 15 in head to heads and 17 looks like we'll have the advantage again.
So you don't deny your being happy with Chuck is simply based on head to head recruiting with A&M in the 2016 class?
Where do you see that for 2017?
Estell just committed to Texas and y'all wanted him bad.
The last four commits we had all held offers from the Aggies.
I'll admit last year was even but for 2017 on head to heada so far? no.
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tu wanted him to come in for an interview and he said he wouldn't. Offer me the job, but I'm not interviewing. Smart move by him, really.
Wrong again Rocco.
He offered to come in and take over for the program and Texas said "you get in line like the rest of them"
That's when he yanked his name.
Funny, he thought he was just going to walk into this program like He's Somebody?
quote:Just the ***gots
How many Jeffs actually spell their name "Geoff"?
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Steve, you're trying to get lost in the details because you don't want to answer the question.
What's Chuck done other than beat A&M for some recruits that gives you hope?
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Steve, you're trying to get lost in the details because you don't want to answer the question.
What's Chuck done other than beat A&M for some recruits that gives you hope?
Yes, he said it.
quote:quote:So Aggies recruited better than Texas head-to-head in 14 and 15, even in 16 ... and you call that having recruiting success vs. Aggies? Based on what may or may not happen in 17? And you're certain that all 17 commits will sign?quote:quote:quote:
So you measure your tshirt school's success in recruiting vs A&M, in which Chuck has a sizable losing record?
That's basically exactly what you just said
Not Lately.
Wasnt 2016 pretty close to even? I know we kicked your tshirt schools head in sideways in 14 and 15 in head to heads and 17 looks like we'll have the advantage again.
So you don't deny your being happy with Chuck is simply based on head to head recruiting with A&M in the 2016 class?
Where do you see that for 2017?
Estell just committed to Texas and y'all wanted him bad.
The last four commits we had all held offers from the Aggies.
I'll admit last year was even but for 2017 on head to heada so far? no.
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tu wanted him to come in for an interview and he said he wouldn't. Offer me the job, but I'm not interviewing. Smart move by him, really.
Wrong again Rocco.
He offered to come in and take over for the program and Texas said "you get in line like the rest of them"
That's when he yanked his name.
Funny, he thought he was just going to walk into this program like He's Somebody?
quote:Has to be out there somewhere online ...
Dale Hansen Unplugged just went after Briles like nothing I've seen to date.
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Players are hungry and ready to play for Chuck.
quote:quote:Has to be out there somewhere online ...
Dale Hansen Unplugged just went after Briles like nothing I've seen to date.
quote:I don't think anyone is asserting Baylor or any other school take that absurd action. However, you DO handle it something similar to this:
Apparently you're supposed to kick a guy off the team and ruin his career as soon as someone makes an allegation against him, due process be damned?
quote:quote:I don't think anyone is asserting Baylor or any other school take that absurd action. However, you DO handle it something similar to this:
Apparently you're supposed to kick a guy off the team and ruin his career as soon as someone makes an allegation against him, due process be damned?
-- review allegation; if there IS something there (i.e. it doesn't appear to be phony or a prank), you SUSPEND the player; not indefinitely, just for the time being
-- any allegation of a crime, particularly a felony, requires you to get the police involved;
-- any arrest = suspension; PERIOD -- until the matter is resolved
-- any University is more than able to assist their students on things like counseling and personal crisis management; you don't tell students, particularly those who have made credible allegations of violence by another student, that you can't do anything for them
-- the athletic department needs to monitor the situation and advise the coaching staff of the sport involved of what is going on; they further need to develop and utilize a policy similar (but more detailed) to what I'm outlining here
-- when the AD has a meeting with the alleged rape victim, he doesn't play dumb; if something got missed, he picks up the ball and runs with it
-- finally, the President deals with issues the AD or head coach won't deal with, and actually LEADS his staff in the proper direction; he doesn't wait until the **** hits the fan, multiple news outlets pick up on it and start running stories to assert totally incredible defenses
Ken Starr should have written a memo to both McCaw and Briles demanding that they take care of these rape allegation issues or that he (Starr) would. When he got back a picture of Briles shooting him the bird, he can take that to the board of regents and finally the press if he did get ousted.
Arguing over the due process rights of the accused students is a red herring. Your comment doesn't seem to show concern for the due process rights of the victims.
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tu wanted him to come in for an interview and he said he wouldn't. Offer me the job, but I'm not interviewing. Smart move by him, really.
Wrong again Rocco.
He offered to come in and take over for the program and Texas said " you get in line like the rest of them"
That's when he yanked his name.
Funny, he thought he was just going to walk into this program like He's Somebody?
quote:Dale Hansen from their website:quote:Has to be out there somewhere online ...
Dale Hansen Unplugged just went after Briles like nothing I've seen to date.
quote:If the case gets dropped, he's been punished unjustly, with damage to his career and reputation.
-- review allegation; if there IS something there (i.e. it doesn't appear to be phony or a prank), you SUSPEND the player; not indefinitely, just for the time being
quote:Of what benefit to the victim is suspending the accused before he has been indicted?
Arguing over the due process rights of the accused students is a red herring. Your comment doesn't seem to show concern for the due process rights of the victims.
quote:That's the KEY part of one of the cases, that the predator was allowed to remain on campus, IN CLASS with her. Destroyed her psychologically to the point that she left school.quote:If the case gets dropped, he's been punished unjustly, with damage to his career and reputation.
-- review allegation; if there IS something there (i.e. it doesn't appear to be phony or a prank), you SUSPEND the player; not indefinitely, just for the time beingquote:Of what benefit to the victim is suspending the accused before he has been indicted?
Arguing over the due process rights of the accused students is a red herring. Your comment doesn't seem to show concern for the due process rights of the victims.
quote:They're hungry for more mouth watering brisket sandwiches.
Considering that statement I would give him another year to see what Texas can do. Players are hungry and ready to play for Chuck.
quote:quote:That's the KEY part of one of the cases, that the predator was allowed to remain on campus, IN CLASS with her. Destroyed her psychologically to the point that she left school.quote:If the case gets dropped, he's been punished unjustly, with damage to his career and reputation.
-- review allegation; if there IS something there (i.e. it doesn't appear to be phony or a prank), you SUSPEND the player; not indefinitely, just for the time beingquote:Of what benefit to the victim is suspending the accused before he has been indicted?
Arguing over the due process rights of the accused students is a red herring. Your comment doesn't seem to show concern for the due process rights of the victims.
And oh btw, he was found guilty, which did NOTHING to help the victim.
If you suspend a kid for something like this, and he's found not guilty, that's bad and you apologize. But it's nothing compared to the damage done to the victims.
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If the case gets dropped, he's been punished unjustly, with damage to his career and reputation.
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Of what benefit to the victim is suspending the accused before he has been indicted?
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There may or may not be an actual benefit to the single victim in this scenario. But not suspending players gives them the perception that the coaches don't care what happens off the practice and game field. THAT is what happened in this case.
