This entire thread should be a case study published in the American Journal of Psychiatry.
Squadron7 said:
I distinctly remember something in one of the Stephen Ambrose books about Rudder jumping up and down shouting, "Look at me! Look at me!" after scaling the cliff at Pont du Hoc.
Squadron7 said:
I distinctly remember something in one of the Stephen Ambrose books about Rudder jumping up and down shouting, "Look at me! Look at me!" after scaling the cliff at Pont du Hoc.
CanyonAg77 said:Squadron7 said:
I distinctly remember something in one of the Stephen Ambrose books about Rudder jumping up and down shouting, "Look at me! Look at me!" after scaling the cliff at Pont du Hoc.
Even funnier if you know that Rudder basically blew off Cornelius Ryan when Ryan was collecting stories for The Longest Day.
In addition, Rudder had an unwritten policy of "Rangers don't need medals". There is a book That Fool Lieutenant by Edlin (name if both from memory, so probably wrong). He describes being put up for a MOH and talking to Rudder about it. Rudder told him no other Ranger had a MOH, so Edlin refused his.
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As for the world of cybersecurity, I have pointed out before that the information age has largely passed TAMU by. Not a single company anywhere in the world has come to College Station to capitalize on **** intellectual capital as applied to computer technology. a g g y is literally one of the last places one would look to find the next generation of cyber geniuses.
Irish_Man said:
What did he do during the battle of the bulge?
For some information on what was going on in General Rudder's life in and around the time of the Battle of the Bulge, let me suggest The Execution of Private Slovik by W. B. Huie. This book was given to me by a couple of C.O. applicants from the University of Colorado that I was processing as a battery commander some 45 years ago. I liked to fell out of my chair when the General and Texas A&M were mentioned. What the author wrote about A&M flies in the face of the allegations made by the teasip in question.Squadron7 said:CanyonAg77 said:Squadron7 said:
I distinctly remember something in one of the Stephen Ambrose books about Rudder jumping up and down shouting, "Look at me! Look at me!" after scaling the cliff at Pont du Hoc.
Even funnier if you know that Rudder basically blew off Cornelius Ryan when Ryan was collecting stories for The Longest Day.
In addition, Rudder had an unwritten policy of "Rangers don't need medals". There is a book That Fool Lieutenant by Edlin (name if both from memory, so probably wrong). He describes being put up for a MOH and talking to Rudder about it. Rudder told him no other Ranger had a MOH, so Edlin refused his.
Plus....Rudder did some pretty important stuff during the Battle of the Bulge that really didn't come out until the Hatfield bio.six years ago.
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personal account of D-Day and World War II as told by Ranger Robert Edlin, Platoon Commander of A Company, 2nd Ranger Battalion. Using a single hand grenade, he and his all-star patrol captured an entire German garrison of 800 people, earning him the Distinguished Service Cross and the title - "The Fool Lieutenant". The Rangers were an elite group of the Army Infantry - all volunteers. The Army Ranger exemplified the highest standards of courage, determination, ruggedness and fighting ability
Wait. So randy goes and claims that Texas Aggies can't do anything without an ulterior motive of just wanting to seek out recognition. But while doing so more details of Rudder and his "fake" rangers accomplishments come out. Details that even most Ags don't know about? Awesome. randy is a colossal failure, both in his personal life and in life's mission of defaming those mean stooooooooopid aaagaaaggahgyyies.Squadron7 said:Irish_Man said:
What did he do during the battle of the bulge?
Remember that the main reason the German offensive failed is that the Germans were not able to make a strict timetable before the allies caught on. Without going into a lot of detail Rudder, in his little corner of the lower shoulder of the Bulge, tied up a bunch of Germans in a brilliant delaying action that they simply could not recover from time-wise. It's a good read.
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Following two months of moving into France, Colonel Rudder was given the command of the 109th Infantry Regiment, 28th Division on December 8, 1944 the eve of the Battle of the Bulge. The 109th was placed into offensive action at once, defending against a crippling German assault into the Hurtgen Forest and the Ardennes. Rudder entrenched his exposed left flank and armed to stop the German advance to Luxembourg. As the enemy moved down the Sure River, Rudder devised a delaying action and counter attack that halted and defeated the German advance at Grosbous and thus, proved a major factor in preventing the enemy from taking Bastogne at Christmas. Following this action, the U.S. Army formed "Task Force Rudder" to eliminate all enemy forces on the south side of the Sure River and west of the Oure River in advance of General George Patton's Third Army sweeping move into the heart of Germany. In January 1945 the 109th liberated Colmar, France one of the last major cities held by the enemy and liberated by Americans.
"Both the 109th Infantry Regiment and Colonel Rudder are due the rightful recognition for slowing down the German attack that was a major factor in the defense of Bastogne."
Thomas M. Hatfield
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I struggle to think of an **** who served their community, their state, or their country without seeking attention or accolades for doing so
ABATTBQ11 said:
When did Randy become SECDEF?
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I am working on some research to debunk a couple of **** Medal of Honor fairy tales. I believe only two Medal of Honor recipients claimed by **** actually graduated from A&M. Of course, the biggest **** MOH fairy tale is that the MOH recipients had anything in common with today's ****, but that is a discussion for another day.
The Aggie MOH recipients are "former members of the Texas A&M Corps of Cadets"...from the tamu.edu website. Has it been claimed that they graduated from A&M? I suspect some did, and others did not...and might have even died in the battle that earned them the medal before they had a chance to finish here.realestateguru said:
So let me get this straight. The sips claim two MOH winners. One is Stidham a fine graduate and the other is Neel Kearby a fine graduate of UT.......Arlington. Charles M Satterfield is the biggest obsessed hypocrite. You never cease to amaze me.Quote:
I am working on some research to debunk a couple of **** Medal of Honor fairy tales. I believe only two Medal of Honor recipients claimed by **** actually graduated from A&M. Of course, the biggest **** MOH fairy tale is that the MOH recipients had anything in common with today's ****, but that is a discussion for another day.
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With four former students serving as CEOs of some of the largest companies in the United States, Texas A&M has the most of any university in Texas and is only matched by the University of Michigan. Other schools on the Fortune list include Cornell University and Harvard University, both with three CEO graduates.
Nope - Disciples of ChristCanyonAg77 said:
Minor nitpick, TCU is Church of Christ, not Methodist.
And while it's easy to focus on the MOH recipients, countless others had amazing careers. I think the count of flag rank Aggies is now around 270. Countless Ags have received high honors, such as Olin E. Teague, who, speaking of computers, had the computer center at A&M named for him. It was where NASA astronauts came in the 1960s to train on computers, but I guess A&M doesn't know anything about computer science.
We've had CoS of the Air Force, pilots for AF1 and Marine One, Astronauts, etc. etc. An Aggie was the highest ranking combat casualty of Vietnam (Hochmouth). Bernard Shriever '31 achieved four-star rank, and was the father of the Air Force ICBM program.
Correct DoCJR69 said:Nope - Disciples of ChristCanyonAg77 said:
Minor nitpick, TCU is Church of Christ, not Methodist.
And while it's easy to focus on the MOH recipients, countless others had amazing careers. I think the count of flag rank Aggies is now around 270. Countless Ags have received high honors, such as Olin E. Teague, who, speaking of computers, had the computer center at A&M named for him. It was where NASA astronauts came in the 1960s to train on computers, but I guess A&M doesn't know anything about computer science.
We've had CoS of the Air Force, pilots for AF1 and Marine One, Astronauts, etc. etc. An Aggie was the highest ranking combat casualty of Vietnam (Hochmouth). Bernard Shriever '31 achieved four-star rank, and was the father of the Air Force ICBM program.
CanyonAg77 said:
Bernard Shriever '31 achieved four-star rank, and was the father of the Air Force ICBM program.