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Army is closerHow glorious will it be if in 50 years Texas is looked at like Minnesota.

I better start eating right and exercising so I can live to see the day

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I could see that happening more so with ou. The Aggies should be hitting Oklahoma hard for the cream recruits there. Do you want to play SEC football? Are you SEC good? Texas A&M is just down the road from mom and dad.

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Arky may be closer depending on where in OK they are.

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That was in 2007. Gee was the president of Ohio State. Some at the time said he was the only person standing in the way of a playoff.Fast-forward eight years. The College Football Playoff is in place. Gee is alive and well. Not only that, he remains a key figure in college football's landscape.You might have read Oklahoma University President David Boren's comment that the Big 12 "should strive for" expansion beyond the current 10-team setup. Kansas State football coach Bill Snyder recently added his support for expansion.Well, Gee is on the Big 12's expansion committee. And get this: There are only three members.

When reached via Big 12 Associate Commissioner Bob Burda, Big 12 Commissioner Bob Bowlsby said those on the "Composition Committee" are Gee, Boren and Baylor University President Ken Starr. That's it.

"I'm on the committee and I think we need to explore it," Gee said this week. "I always laughed about the Big Ten because we had 12 teams and I always laugh about the Big 12 because we have 10 teams. For some reason, our arithmetic is not right."That said, though, we in the Big 12, in terms of football and basketball, are competitive from top to bottom. In the Big Ten, there have always been tiers. That's not so in the Big 12. Any team can win. There aren't weaknesses. So if we were to add someone, the school would have to add to our value, add to our culture and be competitive in this very competitive environment."

Note there are no cold-dead-hand-wrenching statements in the stance. He's open to the possibility of expansion."I'm not opposed to it, but I'd want to look at it very, very carefully so we don't have unintended consequences," Gee said. "I, for one, like that we all play each other."

Possible candidates for expansion include BYU, Boise State, Central Florida, Cincinnati, Colorado State, Houston and Memphis. I asked Gee, though, if there are any serious contenders currently before the committee."If there were," he replied, "I wouldn't tell you."As you might surmise, the No. 1 reason to expand would be to hold a conference football title game and be on equal footing with other leagues in regard to the CFP.

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Gee is not in favor of a Big 12 title game as the league stands."With 10 teams, it would be unwieldy," he said. "I don't think we could. Well, we could, but I don't think it's wise. It would be kind of a shotgun marriage."

Which brings us back to the president's CFP stance. Summarizing that stance in two words: It's softened."I think [the four-team CFP] was a good compromise," Gee said. "Back then they were talking about eight teams and extending it way into the second semester. Academically, it didn't make any sense.

"This one worked out all right. I'm a great believer in the bowl system. I think the bowl system provides opportunities for students and others to generate enthusiasm and for the university as well. [The CFP] seems not to have had an impact on the bowl system. So it's a compromise that works."

Mississippi coach Hugh Freeze recently suggested college teams go back to an 11-game regular season, ditch league championships, and have eight playoff teams."I wasn't in favor of the 12th game," Gee said. "But I wouldn't be in favor of cutting back. ... We just don't want to go down a slippery slope [of adding four teams to the CFP]. We've fought hard to keep all within the realm of academics, and that's where we want to keep it."

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Isn't gee the crazy bow tie wearing guy run off from Ohio state?


And worried about academics...........at wvu......lol

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Div 1-AA and Div 2 have 24 team playoffs, and Div 3 has 32 team playoffs. Doesn't anybody care about academics at those schools!? How can they let those kids play 15 game seasons!?

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ESPN's Brett McMurphy: "The good news for Memphis is the Big 12 is gonna have to look to the American Athletic Conference for two teams."

McMurphy: "The Big 12 is not expanding west."

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If they add any of those and UT stays in this $#@! hole then $#@! every one. It also looks like a lot of OU fans want the SEC. If they go and UT doesn't follow then the university is led by idiots.

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Gee will make himself the center of attention. He just can't stand it, otherwise.
He will also spout off something that embarrasses the hell out of the BDF.
Bank it. Loose cannon/dementia. IOW, perfect fit! Bravo.

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The thing about our "$#@!ty" ten team conference is that all but ISU have had very high level success in football at some point in the last decade, and with ISU, they are at least competitive most years and their fans show up. Only KU is looking like a long term football dog despite their Orange Bowl run a few years ago, but they can get away with it because of their basketball blueblood status. Adding two mid-majors will dilute that competitiveness. SEC can boast all they want, but they have a lot of crappy football every year in their conference. The Big XII doesn't have much disparity in talent from top to bottom. What the Big XII needs is someone to break through and win an MNC, even if its not OU or Texas. The SEC will always get preference regardless of how unfair it is, but they still have to take the field and one of us needs to win it all to shut them up, even if just temporarily.

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I understand Texas not wanting to be seen as following A&M but if they have the chance at the SEC it should be a no brainer. OU and Texas would just push A&M further down the totem pole in the SEC. Who went first would be forgotten about quickly.

• The Big 12 vs the SEC is like the Arena league vs the NFL. If OU heads to the SEC, Texas would be committing suicide to sit idly by. I think a lot of their folks want A&M (not to mention Arkansas) back on their schedule too.

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WVU university president Gee: "That said, though, we in the Big 12, in terms of football and basketball, are competitive from top to bottom. In the Big Ten, there have always been tiers. That's not so in the Big 12. Any team can win. There aren't weaknesses."

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Texas has been unusually low key on this issue, and why not? If the Big 12 ceases to exist Texas becomes the hottest woman on the dance floor and every power conference will be looking to get a dance.

Texas would have the option to go independent using the Notre Dame/BYU blueprint as a guide (the Longhorn Network gives Texas more leverage with this option). Texas could choose a conference affiliation while maintaining independent status in football, like Notre Dame and the ACC. It's also possible Texas could choose to do nothing at all.

The Longhorns could simply choose to slow dance in a burning room with the knowledge that when the Big 12 does implode that they'll be ok, which is true and unfortunate for the rest of the conference.
Currently Texas has no incentive to go all in on conference expansion. The truth is it may be more advantageous to Texas to twiddle its thumbs while Rome burns and rise like a phoenix from the ashes when all is said and done.

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This could in some part be true, I can't remember when UT has ever agreed to something that wasn't their idea. OU wants to go the PAC, UT sticks their feet in the ground 2 different times. UT counters with their idea of the LHN and the dumpster fire Big XII ( they got their way).

• It's high time for OU to give UT one week to decide, go with us to the SEC, BIG, or PAC or we are leaving you for good...oh and by the way we are playing A&M in the Cotton Bowl, good luck finding a new rivals....UT do you like Taco Tech as your new "rival?"

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The thing about our "$#@!ty" ten team conference is that all but ISU have had very high level success in football at some point in the last decade, and with ISU, they are at least competitive most years and their fans show up. Only KU is looking like a long term football dog despite their Orange Bowl run a few years ago, but they can get away with it because of their basketball blueblood status. Adding two mid-majors will dilute that competitiveness. SEC can boast all they want, but they have a lot of crappy football every year in their conference. The Big XII doesn't have much disparity in talent from top to bottom. What the Big XII needs is someone to break through and win an MNC, even if its not OU or Texas. The SEC will always get preference regardless of how unfair it is, but they still have to take the field and one of us needs to win it all to shut them up, even if just temporarily.

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The SEC, using Lofton aka Longhorn Killer, has built a bridge to OU through Mizzou.

Boren, who seems to no longer have any patience with Texas, has Lofton in his ear with all kinds of info on how to deal with Texas.

Lofton's persuasion also comes with painting the SEC as the place Boren actually wants to be. Mizzou knows the SEC was a far better choice for them as opposed to B1G recognition. This light has been established and is the now all the rage in Norman. Once Boren started thinking SEC and all of it's immediate $$$ advantages, he now can't unthink the SEC.

The SEC has been wanting OU for some time now. Lofton has those big SEC hats completely clued in on who Texas is. The SEC knows the Texas situation and the weak spots it needs to know about. This is why the SEC sent Lofton in when they did. Boren likes Mizzou and always listens to them when they have something to say. The SEC has given Mizzou plenty to say.

The SEC is quietly pouncing on their last chance to grab Oklahoma with the intention of also trying for the grand slam of getting UT, too. If not, Oklahoma is a very satisfying enough get for the SEC to call it good. That alone makes Texas feel weak in a way it hasn't felt yet. If they thought Lofton had fun ending UT/aTm, and also realizing that he has a hand in possibly ending RRR, too, there is no way Texas doesn't feel some sort of panic. I think Texas is going to have a come to Jesus meeting with the SEC.

• I think OU is sold on being SEC bound. I also think Missouri is the s*** for helping the SEC & OU come together. If this is true, Lofton gets a holiday on my calendar.

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Rumor is right. Where exactly is the thread detailing these said rumors? I see nothing. http://texas.forums.rivals.com/forum...e-40-acres.22/

• Page 3 of Inside the 40 acres...thread titled "OU has plans to leave for SEC." Cujo0622 drops the info throughout the thread. Like I said, could be BS, but Cujo is a longtime poster.

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he SEC has been wanting OU for some time now. Lofton has those big SEC hats completely clued in on who Texas is. The SEC knows the Texas situation and the weak spots it needs to know about. This is why the SEC sent Lofton in when they did. Boren likes Mizzou and always listens to them when they have something to say. The SEC has given Mizzou plenty to say.

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I still dont think that OU was offered with A&M at the beginning either. Never once heard Slive say anthing along those lines. Nor did anyone other than internet posters allude to such. T

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"There was a time when A&M thought they were going to the SEC and they very much wanted us to go with them," Boren said. "Oklahoma, in the whole thing, we were positioned in a way where virtually we could not have lost."

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