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Toros23
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I created a joint brokerage earlier this year and that was professionally managed up until about one month ago. I decided I wanted to manage it myself. The brokerage account has roughly 10 different funds and is pretty diverse. I'm considering selling those and consolidating into one total market fund as it would make my life easier to just funnel new money into one fund rather than divvying it up into the 10 different funds. Current portfolio is up about 5% YTD.

Anyone have recommendations one way or the other?
Petrino1
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Yes, you should do it on your own. You will save a ton of money in fees. There is absolutely zero reason to be invested in 10 mutual funds. Something tells me the advisor has you in those funds for their own personal gain.
El_duderino
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DIY. I'd question what the advisor has been doing being up only 5% year to date. A basic S&P index fund is up 15% year to date.
Toros23
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Is there a way to avoid a short term capital gains hit? Or just take the hit and transfer everything into total market fund
OldArmyCT
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You're not going to be able to avoid any tax hit unless you just hang onto what you've got, and in any event funds tend to make you pay tax even if you're just holding. And those ten funds, which company are they? Who does your advisor work for? I worked for Merrill and they wouldn't let me open an account with 10 loaded mutual funds in it even if I wanted to (or the customer wanted to even).
Hoyt Ag
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Quote:

Current portfolio is up about 5% YTD.
Fire this advisor today.
El Chupacabra
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Wife had an account that had a monthly fee and had 6-7 high fee mutual funds.

We moved it and put it in a couple low fee Fidelity funds. Probably about a 95% same portfolio composition for a fraction of the price compared to the 6-7 'managed' funds.
Toros23
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El Chupacabra said:

Wife had an account that had a monthly fee and had 6-7 high fee mutual funds.

We moved it and put it in a couple low fee Fidelity funds. Probably about a 95% same portfolio composition for a fraction of the price compared to the 6-7 'managed' funds.
Which funds did you go with? I'm in research phase now.
Toros23
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OldArmyCT said:

You're not going to be able to avoid any tax hit unless you just hang onto what you've got, and in any event funds tend to make you pay tax even if you're just holding. And those ten funds, which company are they? Who does your advisor work for? I worked for Merrill and they wouldn't let me open an account with 10 loaded mutual funds in it even if I wanted to (or the customer wanted to even).

clobby
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I went with the Boglehead 3 fund portfolio. BND, VTI, VXUS.
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Toros23 said:

El Chupacabra said:

Wife had an account that had a monthly fee and had 6-7 high fee mutual funds.

We moved it and put it in a couple low fee Fidelity funds. Probably about a 95% same portfolio composition for a fraction of the price compared to the 6-7 'managed' funds.
Which funds did you go with? I'm in research phase now.


Fzrox and FTEC
Toros23
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clobby said:

I went with the Boglehead 3 fund portfolio. BND, VTI, VXUS.


5% 75% 20% ?
EliteZags
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0 - 100 - 0

I prefer gains
Aggie PM
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I changed from having my money managed to doing it myself in 2020 after 5+ years of watching what the advisor was doing and determining that I could do it better than they were. I currently allocate among about 10 funds - generally looking to maintain a certain allocation in each type of fund.

I also chose to go with ETFs vs. mutual funds because I saw them as being higher liquidity with more transparency. I like that the ETFs can be sold at any time during the trading day as compared to mutual funds which only settle once per day and once you know the price, you can't action a trade.

My allocation is as follows:
- Large capital companies (50%): SPY (legacy holding - not buying), VOO (better with lower expense ratio), VUG and VTV (to allow me some opportunity to balance value vs. growth within the large cap sector)
- Medium capital companies (10%): VO
- Small capital companies (30%): VTWO (tracks Russell 2000), IWN and IWO (to balance growth vs. value in the small cap sector)
- International companies (10%): VEA (developed markets), VWO (emerging markets)

In total, I pay about 0.07% in fees per year now versus about 0.5% per year before when my money was being managed. Those fees could be less if I didn't have the funds that allow me to balance between growth and value. My returns have also been higher than they would have been if I had stayed with the advisor because the allocation has been more effective than that offered by the advisor.

To share my process, I have a spreadsheet that I use each month to check the allocation - when I am adding new funds or have new money from dividends, I allocate that to the sector that is underweighted to try and keep the allocation as close as possible to the target percentages. I haven't sold anything to rebalance (I'm trying to defer capital gains as long as possible), but I plan to sell the overweighted sectors first when I start unwinding the account.
clobby
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Toros23 said:

clobby said:

I went with the Boglehead 3 fund portfolio. BND, VTI, VXUS.


5% 75% 20% ?
Roughly 10%, 80%, 10%.
Toros23
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Money manager is officially out of the picture. I am now debating whether to hold off selling the funds he had me in until we've passed the short term capital gains window (another 10 months) or just taking the short term cap gains hit and moving everything into my preferred ETFs. Either way, any money I invest in my taxable moving forward will be allocated towards my preferred ETFs.

Short term cap gains hit is roughly $3k while the long terms cap gains will be half of that. What would you do?
permabull
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If you are less than 3 months from those short term gains becoming long term I might consider hodling till then, if longer just bit the bullet and move on
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